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Looks like support is coming soon:Maggot9 said:
http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navid=48&langid=100&itemid=38671
For now, you can always reinstall Leopard. Make sure the Time Machine backup has all the user files in it, then reinstall 10.5. Either try to just install over 10.6 with Archive and Install. If that doesn't work, then try the erase option as long as all the user stuff is backed up. Once it's reinstalled, restore files from the backup. I don't trust Time Machine for restoring more than a few files at a time so I keep full clones of all my files AND a Time Machine for version control.
Instead of restoring my whole computer from a previous Time Machine backup, I'm going to select all of my important files (school stuff, Documents, etc) and drag the folders to the backup HDD, and then after I erase my drive/reinstall 10.5, drag all of the files back to my computer and organize them. Would you recommend that?Jasoco said:
My last backup prior to Snow Leopard was Aug 15. I'd rather just wipe everything (while keeping important stuff) and start fresh.
Maggot9 said:
I don't see the need in doing all that, if you're not trying to trouble shoot a serious issue.
Migration assistant (atleast in Leopard) gives several options for setting up a new Mac, including copying over the user directory, which is basically what you're after.
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I got that option when I setup my laptop for the first time, so it seems as if it is part of the OS software.
On new macs (and I guess new installs), when you are starting up, it asks if you want to start as new user, transfer from an old mac, or restore from Time Machine. Not sure if it's different in SL, but if you choose from another Mac, it hen gives you option such as, transfer apps, settings and user files, or a combination.Maggot9 said:
When I bought my most recent Mac last year, I had it do my user files and settings, and I got my network settings and user folder copied over, and just had to reinstall some apps. I probably would've gone with apps too, but I was wanting to start afresh with my janky iLife installation (and I was moving to Leopard from TIger, so I had no Time MAchine backup).
It's just an App. I just checked - it's still in SL - got to Applications -> Utilities -> Migration Assistant, you can run it now to preview what it can do.
Is there anything you're particularly trying to clear by downgrading? What is so pressing that you need to mess with all of this? Again, I suggest moving forwards, if possible, rather than backwards.
I'm not sure if some SL preferences will carry over and be all weird in Leopard. Guessing it should be ok, though.
It's just that you'll lose a bunch of stuff trying to reinstall, such as iLife (though you should be el to put it back). It's a hassle to try and find everything again.
I'm not sure if some SL preferences will carry over and be all weird in Leopard. Guessing it should be ok, though.
It's just that you'll lose a bunch of stuff trying to reinstall, such as iLife (though you should be el to put it back). It's a hassle to try and find everything again.
So----
With SL out now, and the exchange add-on w/ the mail program, exactly how easy is it to have Mac's and Windows XP clients out in the environment?
What I'm looking at doing---- is getting a Mac Mini for myself and use XP either in Parallels or Fusion for domain tasks or maybe i'll just use RDC to our domain servers, but again, I'm wondering how much of a mess I'm asking for.
Any pointers on this would be great as I'm about to start doing a buttload of reading on this subject.
Thanks guys.
With SL out now, and the exchange add-on w/ the mail program, exactly how easy is it to have Mac's and Windows XP clients out in the environment?
What I'm looking at doing---- is getting a Mac Mini for myself and use XP either in Parallels or Fusion for domain tasks or maybe i'll just use RDC to our domain servers, but again, I'm wondering how much of a mess I'm asking for.
Any pointers on this would be great as I'm about to start doing a buttload of reading on this subject.
Thanks guys.
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Aside from a partiion, I'm afraid there is no way to run Steam on OS X. =[ I think, not 100% sure, you can run Boot Camp from an external drive. You could try that.Alucrid said:
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Since I have iTunes running in a different Space, using Quicksilver/Growl, is there a way I can have a now playing bubble pop up? I'd like to know the track name without having to swap to a different Space.
Alucrid said:
You can run Steam in a Windows VM with Fusion and enable hardware acceleration. Unfortunately it won't perform as fast or have very good compatibility compared to just booting into a bootcamped Windows.
I know most of the source based games run ok in it, barring some graphical glitches.
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Alucrid said:
Try VirtualBox from Sun. It's completely free, and it won't hurt you to try it. It'll allow you to set the amount of ram and even individual threads towards Windows emulation.
PS: VirtualBox kicks the everloving shit out of all the other x86 emulators like VMware other than Wine, plus did I mention it's FREE?
Pctx said:
Works pretty well as far as I'm concerned. I work in IT Operations with another dude who's also on Mac, the rest of our IT department are Windows. We maintain our unix / linux / Windows / Mac / novell servers and clients just fine and with the new Exchange integration it's much easier. Before, me being a linux desktop user previously, I had to rely on my iPhone for Exchange.
But then it all depends on what you need to do. We RDC into our Windows servers to do various admin tasks on those, and have some terminal services boxes available for silly Windows clients that won't work under linux or Macs. So as long as you have a Windows box somewhere with admin access (all of ours are virtual), you should be all set to rock and roll.
From my perspective, with being a unix and linux server admin by majority, using a Mac is a dream. I have more functionality and flexibility than I did using linux. The fact that Mac is all unix underneath with an incredible GUI means I have the functionality I need to work with all systems as well as a hassle free point and click environment.
I have a browser question:
You guys know how IE has the ability to display thumbnails of websites in tabs, right? Does anyone know if Safari is in any way cable of doing the same thing (or Firefox or any other good browser)? I really like that, as it makes it easier to watch videos while browsing websites.
-Kye
You guys know how IE has the ability to display thumbnails of websites in tabs, right? Does anyone know if Safari is in any way cable of doing the same thing (or Firefox or any other good browser)? I really like that, as it makes it easier to watch videos while browsing websites.
-Kye
Use the Logitech's tracking speed. OS X's default mouse speed is horrible. I try to use a mouse on an OS X Mac without a Logitech driver and it is impossible to move just a few pixels just to click a tiny close button. But with my MX1000 and mouse tracking speed set to the setting between 1 and 4 (2.5 I guess) and it is fast enough for me to not have any problems clicking what I want to click first try. Though the window controls in OS X are still way too fucking small. WAY TOO FUCKING SMALL. I want them to get theming tools out already so I can make those goddamned targets bigger already.grkazan12 said:
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Um. How do you install Boot Camp and Windows? I am so completely lost. D=
Edit: Nevermind. I just searched Boot Camp in Spotlight and found the assistant.
Edit: Nevermind. I just searched Boot Camp in Spotlight and found the assistant.
Can someone help me? Google is not being smart and understanding what I am asking.
I need to know how to compress all the files in a specified folder into a ZIP file from the Terminal. And the resulting ZIP file must have the folder structure preserved.
I tried ZIP from the Terminal but I can't figure out how to compress with it. I need to compress the files.
(It's for a Shell script I am writing. So it needs to be from the Terminal.)
Say the folder has about a dozen files and folders. I want to put them all into a ZIP the same way it would work if I were to select the files in the Finder and select "Compress ?? items" from the menu.
I need to know how to compress all the files in a specified folder into a ZIP file from the Terminal. And the resulting ZIP file must have the folder structure preserved.
I tried ZIP from the Terminal but I can't figure out how to compress with it. I need to compress the files.
(It's for a Shell script I am writing. So it needs to be from the Terminal.)
Say the folder has about a dozen files and folders. I want to put them all into a ZIP the same way it would work if I were to select the files in the Finder and select "Compress ?? items" from the menu.
Jasoco said:
What about zip doesn't work?
In Unix, type "man zip" (as in manual), and it will give you a help on the command "Zip".
Sounds like you need the -r for recursive (But I don't know much about unix, so proceed with other advice).
Code:
-r
--recurse-paths
Travel the directory structure recursively; for example:
zip -r foo.zip foo
or more concisely
zip -r foo foo
In this case, all the files and directories in foo are saved in a
zip archive named foo.zip, including files with names starting
with ".", since the recursion does not use the shell's file-name
substitution mechanism. If you wish to include only a specific
subset of the files in directory foo and its subdirectories, use
the -i option to specify the pattern of files to be included. You
should not use -r with the name ".*", since that matches ".."
which will attempt to zip up the parent directory (probably not
what was intended).
Multiple source directories are allowed as in
zip -r foo foo1 foo2
which first zips up foo1 and then foo2, going down each directory.
Note that while wildcards to -r are typically resolved while
recursing down directories in the file system, any -R, -x, and -i
wildcards are applied to internal archive pathnames once the
directories are scanned. To have wildcards apply to files in sub-
directories when recursing on Unix and similar systems where the
shell does wildcard substitution, either escape all wildcards or
put all arguments with wildcards in quotes. This lets zip see the
wildcards and match files in subdirectories using them as it
recurses.That didn't work right at all.mrkgoo said:
Code:
zip -r a.zip /Users/Me/Documents/FolderWithFiles/*.*I need it to work exactly like it would if I selected the files in the Finder. The -r flag didn't do this.
I need it for a program that uses archives (Zip files) with a different extension as its file format for running. But it only works if the files it is looking for are at the root of the archive.
Surely there must be a flag to do this! It works this way in the Finder!
Edit: Looks like this works as long as I CD to the directory first...
Code:
zip -r foo *One new question now. How do I place two commands in the Terminal onto one line? There's a separator I can use, but I don't know what it is.
Jasoco said:That didn't work right at all.
Gave me a ZIP file that included the Users, Me, Documents, and other folders along the path inside it. How do I get it to START AT THE "FolderWithFiles" and place all the files in that folder at the base root of the ZIP file?Code:zip -r a.zip /Users/Me/Documents/FolderWithFiles/*.*
I need it to work exactly like it would if I selected the files in the Finder. The -r flag didn't do this.
I need it for a program that uses archives (Zip files) with a different extension as its file format for running. But it only works if the files it is looking for are at the root of the archive.
Surely there must be a flag to do this! It works this way in the Finder!
Again, I'm not familiar with too muxh Unix stuff.
Could you just change to that directory and issue the command there and then come back out?
edit: just reading through the help. a -J grabs all the files, but ignores the directory structure (including the ones inside the target directory).
Yeah. Seems that works. But now I need to figure out how to put two commands onto one line so they both run one after another, but in order. There's a separator I can use but I forget what it is.
zip -r foo *
Works as long as I CD to the directory first. But I need to CD to it on the same line right before running that. How? It doesn't seem to work when I do this:
Instead it freaks out and tries to ZIP the entire HD.
Alternatively I need to know how to make a Shell Script that would do all this. Then run it with Automator.
zip -r foo *
Works as long as I CD to the directory first. But I need to CD to it on the same line right before running that. How? It doesn't seem to work when I do this:
Code:
cd /Users/Me/Documents/FolderWithFiles/ | zip -r foo *Alternatively I need to know how to make a Shell Script that would do all this. Then run it with Automator.
Well, Zip is now working fine, as long as I am in the right directory first. But I can't get it to CD to the directory first.
Any time I try to CD to the folder the files are located in, then try to ZIP from it, it thinks it's currently in the root / and tries to zip my entire HD.
So frustrating!
How do I create a Shell Script with all these commands in it?
It has to do the following in order:
Compress all files and folders in a specific folder into a ZIP file
Rename the ZIP file
Copy it to another folder (Which is on another server)
Delete the ZIP file that was created
All of these work except the Compress one. So I've been manually compressing them in the Finder. And for some reason, Automator won't let me put all the commands into a multi-line "run shell script" action like you'd think. It fails if I try to do the last three actions at once.
Since it's an Automator action, for some reason trying to use the Finder's specific "Get folder contents" and passing them to "Create Archive" doesn't work either. And for some reason the "Get folder contents" won't let me select folders and files to pass. Only files. Ugh! I hate doing things over and over manually!
Any time I try to CD to the folder the files are located in, then try to ZIP from it, it thinks it's currently in the root / and tries to zip my entire HD.
So frustrating!
How do I create a Shell Script with all these commands in it?
It has to do the following in order:
Compress all files and folders in a specific folder into a ZIP file
Rename the ZIP file
Copy it to another folder (Which is on another server)
Delete the ZIP file that was created
All of these work except the Compress one. So I've been manually compressing them in the Finder. And for some reason, Automator won't let me put all the commands into a multi-line "run shell script" action like you'd think. It fails if I try to do the last three actions at once.
Since it's an Automator action, for some reason trying to use the Finder's specific "Get folder contents" and passing them to "Create Archive" doesn't work either. And for some reason the "Get folder contents" won't let me select folders and files to pass. Only files. Ugh! I hate doing things over and over manually!
Automator's "Get folder contents" action does not seem to allow selecting folders as well as files as a variable to pass. Only files. Which is useless.
Fake edit: Okay, that part's fixed. But now it won't let me choose the folder I want to choose just because it's a package. (A folder with an extension that allows it to be opened by an app) Why the fuck does the Finder treat Packages like third class citizens? It doesn't remember their settings if you have them open. It won't let you browse them directly. I can't even choose it as a folder.
*sigh*
I'm just going to stick to manual zipping for now.
Fucking Finder. PACKAGES ARE FOLDERS TOO!
Real edit: I solved it for now by making the working folder with all the files not a package anymore. Which just makes it no longer treated as a double-clickable file to the program that opens it. But with the method I am using it is no longer needed as much. I have adapted to the quirkiness of the Finder's awful treatment of packages.
Fake edit: Okay, that part's fixed. But now it won't let me choose the folder I want to choose just because it's a package. (A folder with an extension that allows it to be opened by an app) Why the fuck does the Finder treat Packages like third class citizens? It doesn't remember their settings if you have them open. It won't let you browse them directly. I can't even choose it as a folder.
*sigh*
I'm just going to stick to manual zipping for now.
Fucking Finder. PACKAGES ARE FOLDERS TOO!
Real edit: I solved it for now by making the working folder with all the files not a package anymore. Which just makes it no longer treated as a double-clickable file to the program that opens it. But with the method I am using it is no longer needed as much. I have adapted to the quirkiness of the Finder's awful treatment of packages.
The "folder" that contained the files I wanted to ZIP has an extension causing it to be seen as a file to the Finder.
The Finder has a shitty treatment of packages.
If you open a Package to view its contents, it will not be remembered between reboots. And it will not remember the packages specific folder settings. It treats a package like a temporary client completely forgetting anything and everything about it. And if you try to browse a package in an Open dialog, you cannot. Because it feels like that's a file. This makes people who have to work with packages very frustrated that it can't remember any settings at all.
Probably because it doesn't create .DS_Store files in packages, which sucks. Why not? A package is just a folder! There's probably a reason, but I can't see it.
Basically, when Automator asked for a folder and the files to select, it would not let me specify the package as the folder to select files in, even if I dragged it to the Open dialog directly.
The Finder has a shitty treatment of packages.
If you open a Package to view its contents, it will not be remembered between reboots. And it will not remember the packages specific folder settings. It treats a package like a temporary client completely forgetting anything and everything about it. And if you try to browse a package in an Open dialog, you cannot. Because it feels like that's a file. This makes people who have to work with packages very frustrated that it can't remember any settings at all.
Probably because it doesn't create .DS_Store files in packages, which sucks. Why not? A package is just a folder! There's probably a reason, but I can't see it.
Basically, when Automator asked for a folder and the files to select, it would not let me specify the package as the folder to select files in, even if I dragged it to the Open dialog directly.
Jasoco said:
I'm aware of the packages difference, I was just wondering why you can't add a package into the automator workflow - don't get it to look for folders - get it to look for items. But not sure if that lets you do what you want. I can archive folders this way anyway. And packages can be at least added to the action.
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Get Windows Media Player, or VLC. They both play AVIs pretty damn well. I also suggest you change the default program to open AVI files when you get either one of them. It should help to keep Quicktime from opening it from now on.grkazan12 said:
Also, I installed Vista on Boot Camp. Man, that's fuckin' awesome. I'm tempted to never own a PC again. =O
Small wonder, that. What you are using is called a pipe. It routes the output of the first command into the input of the second command.Jasoco said:
For example, this:
echo "Hello"
outputs the string Hello.
echo "wc counts the amount of lines, words, and characters in its input" | wc
Will use wc (wordcount) on the string instead of showing it.
What you probably want to do is:
cd /Users/Me/Documents/FolderWithFiles/ ; zip -r foo *
This will change into the directory and then it will execute the zip command in that exact sequence.
Glossary: An exit status of zero means that the program or command ran without encountering any errors. The program will return a non-zero value if there was an error or in many other occasions (it depends on the program itself).man bash said:
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Member
OS X Pro-tip: When you go into Spaces mode (where you see all the spaces), then do the Expose key/gesture/corner you see all the windows while in Space mode you can quickly and very easily organize all your windows by dragging them to different spaces. You can also do in reverse order (expose first, then spaces). So simple but very effective.
Just found this out by accident.
<3 OS X
Just found this out by accident.
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Jal said:
That's awesome, thanks.