Dominican Power
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A lot of rejection in this episode.
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Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC
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Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Yeah, something dark is brewing. The home invasion, the stabbings, now that Tate connection.
One thing that kinda distracted me this episode were the ambulance sounds. I distinctly heard them in the distance twice when they were having conversations at Don's apartment. One might have just be a gag since it followed Abe's stabbing, but I could have sworn they did it twice, and it really stood out because of how loud it was.
We'll see...we'll see.
One thing that kinda distracted me this episode were the ambulance sounds. I distinctly heard them in the distance twice when they were having conversations at Don's apartment. One might have just be a gag since it followed Abe's stabbing, but I could have sworn they did it twice, and it really stood out because of how loud it was.
We'll see...we'll see.
Megan is going to put Bobby in the oven...there, I solved it.
edit: Dr. Rosen probably killed Sylvia...that's why the ambulance was so loud because it was at their building.
As far as I remember the sounds were really prominent twice, and both times where when Don and Megan were talking in the apartment. The first time was when he came home and she'd made dinner. The second time when he came home and talked to her on balcony.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Glad to see I wasn't the only one that noticed. I actually made a comment to my roommate about it at the time because it was a little distracting, like they were just a little bit louder than they needed to be for background noise during a pivotal conversation. Now I see this wardrobe discussion and my gears start turning.
Dominican Power
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Those sirens are just a reminder of how bad the city is getting.
AnotherNils
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I had to pause my playback because it was loud I couldn't tell if it was the TV or outside my apartment.
Ignatz Mouse
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The sirens were in two Don and Megan scenes, as I'm sure they were louder than they've been before.
they were definitely loud. Like AnotherNils up there, my wife and I actually paused the show because we thought the siren was going by outside our house.
Lumpy Onion
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lol I did the same.
There are subtle hints that something bad is going to happen to one of the main characters before the end of season, probably something random and violent. The growing crime around the characters, the general recklessness of a few of them (though that is nothing new), the instances where something happens to a smaller character and it could have been a lot worse (like Ken getting in that car accident).
You just get a sense something bad will happen towards the end.
You just get a sense something bad will happen towards the end.
AnotherNils
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I ay have to stop reading this thread for the rest of season. its one thing to come to conclusions yourself. But when theories crowdsourced from the Internet feel like they're hitting a little too close to home.
I'll be surprised if someone dies, just because coming off last season its weird to have it happen again so soon. But there is a strong case to be made that its coming.
I'll be surprised if someone dies, just because coming off last season its weird to have it happen again so soon. But there is a strong case to be made that its coming.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
I just noticed your avatar.
Ignatz Mouse
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One coffee too few.
AnotherNils
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I already gave the other one away.
Cornballer
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StopMakingSense
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Bob Benson is an undercover Fed working the Donald Draper case.
GoldenEye 007
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lol goddamn could you imagine...
StopMakingSense
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It would be pretty amazing, but it doesn't really fit. He wouldn't have told two stories about his dad.
Capital_Five
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Love Bob, love the latest episode, damn. This is a phenomenal season so far. The amphetamine episode was pretty amazing but if they have a lawnmower moment later, it might be the best. I think this show is better than it has been in a while.
Bobby Roberts
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Pretty sure the "lawnmower moment" is Peggy stabbing Abe in the gut and being dropped like a hot rock in the ambulance ride.
Capital_Five
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I guess it could be. I didn't really think it was that much of an "oh shit" as the other though.
If Abe would have died, I would agree, but as far as we know he's alive.
Cornballer
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- Daily Beast: The Bizarre Megan Draper as Sharon Tate Conspiracy Theory (some summarizing, but a few more details towards the end)
That was one of the more amusing theories from that Rolling Stone article a few weeks ago.
What's this? I think I missed something.
he told ken his dad was dead and then told peter a nurse nursed his dad back to health...but maybe we're missing some context. maybe his dad died after he was nursed back to health.
Wasn't it that the nurse was available because he just finished nursing his dad back to health?
possibly, i don't remember
StopMakingSense
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Yes.
This...
He's just a new general of Don Draper...getting his foot in the door.
Probably why his initials are BB...sort of like DD.
I think the door's wide open at this point for Bob to replace SOMEBODY, though who isn't clear to me yet. Possibilities:
* Roger. Still my top pick for most likely death this season -- after all, he already had his own funeral. Bob's already in accounts.
* Ken. I don't really expect Ken to die, but I still think there's a strong possibility he'll just quit after Dow Chemicals leaves. Bob will be indispensable in that case.
* Harry. Harry obviously thinks he's going to make partner, and I think it's just as clear he isn't going to. When those ideas collide, something dramatic will happen. The problem is that Bob isn't in creative. But how creative is managing TV really?
I don't think he's going to turn out to be anything other than what he looks like -- a desperate climber who will become much less nice to everybody once he has what he wants, a corner office. That's what the 70s are all about, right?
* Roger. Still my top pick for most likely death this season -- after all, he already had his own funeral. Bob's already in accounts.
* Ken. I don't really expect Ken to die, but I still think there's a strong possibility he'll just quit after Dow Chemicals leaves. Bob will be indispensable in that case.
* Harry. Harry obviously thinks he's going to make partner, and I think it's just as clear he isn't going to. When those ideas collide, something dramatic will happen. The problem is that Bob isn't in creative. But how creative is managing TV really?
I don't think he's going to turn out to be anything other than what he looks like -- a desperate climber who will become much less nice to everybody once he has what he wants, a corner office. That's what the 70s are all about, right?
He's just too good for this show. He seriously has nothing wrong with him aside from telling two stories about his father....and he goes out of his way to be an ass kisser.
There is something about the guy.
You know, I was wondering if Weiner and company was such geniuses that they implement substances, ploys, and parallels into every scene intentionally. If they do, this is some brilliant fucking writing.
I compare him to Megan. Remember how great Megan seemed in season 4? The show didn't lie to us. She really was polite, energetic, talented, and good at talking to kids. But the same personality that gave her those characteristics made her seriously unsuited to being Don's wife. And the biggest reason was generational.
Bob is from the same generation as Megan, and not many other people in the show are. That's why he seems so innocent -- just like Megan did. He doesn't have to be anything other than that to be a big problem for the agency.
(Although now I'm kind of wondering if he'll sleep with Megan...)
Even Megan has faults now though. Bob stands out like a sore thumb because he has no faults, in a show where everyone has something wrong with them.
Bobby Roberts
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Did the lawnmower guy die? I don't remember that he did, but I might be remembering wrong. Anyway, the surprise wasn't whether he lived or died, it's that someone drove a lawnmower over his foot. It really doesn't matter whether Abe lives or dies, just that he got stabbed twice in one day, the second time by his girlfriend's homemade bayonet - and then he dumped her in the ambulance.
It's not AS shocking as the lawnmower, but then again - when was the last time anyone got SHIVVED on camera during an episode?
That's part of the reason Mad Men works - it seems to steer away from conventions most dramas (even very grounded ones) end up drifting towards after long enough on the air: Violence amidst castmembers, murders, that sort of thing.
Again - I don't think we see Benson replace anyone, but that has nothing to do with the writing in the show and more to do with his availability as an actor.
edit: That Daily Beast article is weird because it seems to assume that Megan would be an allegory for Tate at best, not that Mad Men would simply adapt Tate's story and change the name to Megan Draper.
He lived but lost the foot.
Ignatz Mouse
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"He'll never play a game of golf again. His career is over" or somesuch was said.
Bobby Roberts
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That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure.
And I'm wrong to say "it doesn't matter whether Abe lives or dies" because yeah, he's a semi-regular character, so it matters, but I don't think that moment, as it happens, only carries weight if we find out Abe dies. It's weighty because Peggy accidentally stabbed her boyfriend in the middle of the night. And in fact, that whole sequence becomes sort of gross if he DOES die, because that means his death was a comedy.
That's something that works for Breaking Bad, I think, but not necessarily for Mad Men.
The show's done a very good job of keeping the violence to the emotional, not the physical.
And I'm wrong to say "it doesn't matter whether Abe lives or dies" because yeah, he's a semi-regular character, so it matters, but I don't think that moment, as it happens, only carries weight if we find out Abe dies. It's weighty because Peggy accidentally stabbed her boyfriend in the middle of the night. And in fact, that whole sequence becomes sort of gross if he DOES die, because that means his death was a comedy.
That's something that works for Breaking Bad, I think, but not necessarily for Mad Men.
The show's done a very good job of keeping the violence to the emotional, not the physical.
Red Liquorice
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:O
Did anyone also tie in that fevered dream Don had about murdering a woman in their bedroom - Forget which episode, think it was last season, the one who let herself in through the back door (like the old black lady?)
Bobby Roberts
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Further adding to the "Megan is a Sharon Tate analog/allegory" - Mike Bertha at philly.com tweeted this a little bit ago:
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Mad-Men-Theories-Is-Megan-Draper-Sharon-Tate.html
Basically, the photo of Sharon Tate that Janie Bryant used to dress Megan in the last scene of the most recent episode, was from a photoshoot taken on the set of Rosemary's Baby.
Which Sally was reading 2 episodes ago.
The Polanski/Tate undertones are definitely intentional. Even if it's only undertones.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Mad-Men-Theories-Is-Megan-Draper-Sharon-Tate.html
Basically, the photo of Sharon Tate that Janie Bryant used to dress Megan in the last scene of the most recent episode, was from a photoshoot taken on the set of Rosemary's Baby.
Which Sally was reading 2 episodes ago.
The Polanski/Tate undertones are definitely intentional. Even if it's only undertones.
Ultimadrago
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I've been behind, but had to say I loved these past two episodes. Many laughs were had at other characters' expense.
- Nice stab Peggy. You go girl.
- Very nice manipulation with Don, Betty.
- Don's drug trip was amazing as was Cosgrove tap dancing while complaining about his unfortunate duties.
There were plenty other highlights between the two, but I'm sure they've been covered here already.
- Nice stab Peggy. You go girl.
- Very nice manipulation with Don, Betty.
- Don's drug trip was amazing as was Cosgrove tap dancing while complaining about his unfortunate duties.
There were plenty other highlights between the two, but I'm sure they've been covered here already.
You missed out on true love, Megan!
-Pyromaniac-
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IF there is one thing for sure when it comes to Mad Men it's that everything is 100% intentional. Weiner is a freak like that. But is he fucking with everybody, that's the question. I really hope he isn't, would love for something dark to happen again. Mad Men is always awesome when it's twisted.
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