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[Mafia] NX Launch Night |OT| Back of the Line!

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
It's funny that the midnight launch-themed Mafia is a sausagefest.

Teehee.
 

cabot

Member
VOTE: Blargonaut

He hasn't posted since the game has started, and hell, I want to see if I am responded with via a riddle.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
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Sorian

Banned
If you're town, speculating about roles can only help mafia narrow their search down.

UNVOTE

Your scare tactic does nothing for me. Wild speculation does nothing for the scum. This game probably has a governor, lightning rod, roleblocker, commuter, investigator, jailer, serial killer, and some lovers to boot. Or none of those. Or some of those. Please, scum can try to read between the lines in my posts, it'll be a good waste of their time. I just thought it was interesting that Salva assumed NO investigator right away and I wanted to bring it up that he mentioned it.
 

roytheone

Member
Who hasn't posted yet?

-The goddamn
-Karkador
-Lone_prodigy (did actually confirm post 30 minutes before the start, but hasn't posted yet after the start)
-Blarg
-RetroMG

To be clear: this is just to get a overview of who we still miss, nothing more.
 

SalvaPot

Member
*whistles in boredom*

Ho hum ho hum. Ok, anyway, so I was hoping Ouro would bring thing up for me with his random Salva vote:



but he didn't so I'll ask.



I don't like this post. I'm always in antithesis to people who say that we should no lynch day 1. It's a waste of time and possible information for town. My question is more, do you really think that we don't have an investigative role? Because my only assumption is that a shorter game would give a weaker investigator so only partial information, alignment only probably.

I am a firm believer that a No lynch in the first night is always the best course of action. Did in the Animal Crossing mafia (We won) also did in the Danganronpa mafia even if that put me in a bad spot.

But for this particular case I feel there is something speci
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Salva, we nearly lost.

Like, it went down to the fucking wire specifically because we pissed away day 1 instead of taking out franconp.
 

SalvaPot

Member
(Continuing previous post).

I believe there is something special about this game, so I think lynching this time on day 1 might be a better course of action.

I also want to know what blarg has to say, people might dislike his playstyle but its telling on how people react to it, and I find it weird we have heard pretty much nada from him.

Vote: Blargonaut
 

cabot

Member
I know they say that you shouldn't read too much into other game performance.

But consistently no lynch until now because this game 'is special'

is it special because in the land of no fun allowed, you are the special king with a special crown and a special chair?
 

SalvaPot

Member
Salva, we nearly lost.

Like, it went down to the fucking wire specifically because we pissed away day 1 instead of taking out franconp.

Wait, haly, you are not even in this game. This kinds of comments paint me in a bad light you should know that.
 

Sorian

Banned
Salva, we nearly lost.

Like, it went down to the fucking wire specifically because we pissed away day 1 instead of taking out franconp.

What are you even doing here?


(Continuing previous post).

I believe there is something special about this game, so I think lynching this time on day 1 might be a better course of action.

I also want to know what blarg has to say, people might dislike his playstyle but its telling on how people react to it, and I find it weird we have heard pretty much nada from him.

Vote: Blargonaut

Hmm, first you said that you would do a lynch(evict? line bump?) because there were less players, now it's because you think there is something special? I don't think this is worth prying at the moment but I smell something here.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Yeah, sorry, I'm out for good now.
 

SalvaPot

Member
I know they say that you shouldn't read too much into other game performance.

But consistently no lynch until now because this game 'is special'

is it special because in the land of no fun allowed, you are the special king with a special crown and a special chair?

I think its special because of this:

Special Notes

The flavor in this game is very silly and using it to guess someone’s alignment will make you look even sillier.


This got me thinking what exactly are we up against, short games mean either crazy amount of powers or very few very limited powers. This is why info is far more important than in a long game were the risk of getting a ordinary townie is higher. Here the odds of getting a town are lower when lynching, so for me it makes sense to start with a lynch.
 

SalvaPot

Member
Hmm, first you said that you would do a lynch(evict? line bump?) because there were less players, now it's because you think there is something special? I don't think this is worth prying at the moment but I smell something here.


Its both, take into account that while posting my response it posted before I was done, so I kind of lost my train of thought, lol.
 

roytheone

Member
I think its special because of this:




This got me thinking what exactly are we up against, short games mean either crazy amount of powers or very few very limited powers. This is why info is far more important than in a long game were the risk of getting a ordinary townie is higher. Here the odds of getting a town are lower when lynching, so for me it makes sense to start with a lynch.

Why is this? Smaller amount of players would probably mean less mafia members to balance it out, right?
 

Sorian

Banned
This got me thinking what exactly are we up against, short games mean either crazy amount of powers or very few very limited powers. This is why info is far more important than in a long game were the risk of getting a ordinary townie is higher. Here the odds of getting a town are lower when lynching, so for me it makes sense to start with a lynch.

I enjoy the philosophy of no lynch vs. lynch on day 1 so I have a question based on everything you've said so far. You feel that lynching day 1 is useless in the other type of GAF games because the chance of hitting an ordinary townie are high but then you also mentioned when you first brought this up that we can feel safe lynching because there is probably no investigator. Those ideas seem to go against each other because it sounded like your fear in no lynch was hitting something important by accident.
 

SalvaPot

Member
Of course this is just based on experience, for example in this game I am expecting between 2 and 4 NFA members, maybe one neutral.

That is at best 1/6 of the players, so we really have not many chances.
 

SalvaPot

Member
Gaaah, I tried to quote and somehow I edit it, sorry, let me post it as it was:

I enjoy the philosophy of no lynch vs. lynch on day 1 so I have a question based on everything you've said so far. You feel that lynching day 1 is useless in the other type of GAF games because the chance of hitting an ordinary townie are high but then you also mentioned when you first brought this up that we can feel safe lynching because there is probably no investigator. Those ideas seem to go against each other because it sounded like your fear in no lynch was hitting something important by accident.

How are they against each other?

Normally when I am Pro lynch, is because I want the PR to get any information possible in the first day. In big games there is usually at least one detective and one other information gatherer of some kind and usually the chances of Mafia killing him in the first night are really low.

In small games, there is usually at best ONE Investigative role, 2 in PR crazy games, and for this is also possible we don´t even have one, but the game is short, so the chances we lynch him are not that important because mafia has a way better chance to get to him, we are more pressed for time, so the risk is worth it.

Of course there is always the fear of hitting someone important, but I am based more on the chances of mafia killing a important role on the first night.

I could go more into detail but I think I explained my reasoning in a comprehensible matter, I know is not the usual way to play (automatic lynch seems to be the norm), but it has worked for me.
 

SalvaPot

Member
And here I meant when I am Pro No lynch, lol.

Gaaah, I tried to quote and somehow I edit it, sorry, let me post it as it was:



How are they against each other?

Normally when I am Pro No lynch, is because I want the PR to get any information possible in the first day. In big games there is usually at least one detective and one other information gatherer of some kind and usually the chances of Mafia killing him in the first night are really low.

In small games, there is usually at best ONE Investigative role, 2 in PR crazy games, and for this is also possible we don´t even have one, but the game is short, so the chances we lynch him are not that important because mafia has a way better chance to get to him, we are more pressed for time, so the risk is worth it.

Of course there is always the fear of hitting someone important, but I am based more on the chances of mafia killing a important role on the first night.

I could go more into detail but I think I explained my reasoning in a comprehensible matter, I know is not the usual way to play (automatic lynch seems to be the norm), but it has worked for me.
 

Sorian

Banned
Gaaah, I tried to quote and somehow I edit it, sorry, let me post it as it was:



How are they against each other?

Normally when I am Pro lynch, is because I want the PR to get any information possible in the first day. In big games there is usually at least one detective and one other information gatherer of some kind and usually the chances of Mafia killing him in the first night are really low.

In small games, there is usually at best ONE Investigative role, 2 in PR crazy games, and for this is also possible we don´t even have one, but the game is short, so the chances we lynch him are not that important because mafia has a way better chance to get to him, we are more pressed for time, so the risk is worth it.

Of course there is always the fear of hitting someone important, but I am based more on the chances of mafia killing a important role on the first night.

I could go more into detail but I think I explained my reasoning in a comprehensible matter, I know is not the usual way to play (automatic lynch seems to be the norm), but it has worked for me.

Ah this makes more sense, your worry is more about what mafia does that night as opposed to what we do during the day. Got it. Thanks for your views Salva, I still disagree of course but that was probably the first time I've heard a good appeal for why someone is no lynch.

Who hasn't posted yet?

-The goddamn
-Karkador
-Lone_prodigy (did actually confirm post 30 minutes before the start, but hasn't posted yet after the start)
-Blarg
-RetroMG

To be clear: this is just to get a overview of who we still miss, nothing more.

Back on topic, we need to hear from these folks. In retrospect, I probably should have thrown my vote on Retro or Prodigy because I find it more curious that they haven't posted. But what's done is done and I'm not letting a vote slide until I get some discussion out of it. Officially I am waiting for Goddamn
 

Darryl

Banned
I understand this vote because Kark hasn't posted yet.

I'm just trying to get people off my case since I'm probably not gonna be at the gates today. I don't personally agree with early vote pressure, I think it's better to let people talk first before threatening to kill them. We certainly had the time in this day phase. Gives a lot of people excuses to not talk imo.
 

Sorian

Banned
I'm just trying to get people off my case since I'm probably not gonna be at the gates today. I don't personally agree with early vote pressure, I think it's better to let people talk first before threatening to kill them. We certainly had the time in this day phase. Gives a lot of people excuses to not talk imo.

If nothing else, I've learned that people give themselves excuses not to talk and someone else needs to actually come along and give them reason to.
 

roytheone

Member
I probably should have thrown my vote on Retro or Prodigy because I find it more curious that they haven't posted.

I just rechecked and prodigy his confirm post was actually 8 minutes before the start of the game, not even 30 :)

Where you at buddy?
 

RetroMG

Member
Hey, sorry. The wife decided to re-tile our shower today so that's been taking up my free time. Also, in general weekends are super busy for me. (Which is why ONUW runs mid-week.)

I agree on day 1 lynch, and I'll try to post reads later on. I'm always mildly suspicious of Sorian, though, just because it's so easy to assume that he is town.
 

Sorian

Banned
Hey, sorry. The wife decided to re-tile our shower today so that's been taking up my free time. Also, in general weekends are super busy for me. (Which is why ONUW runs mid-week.)

I agree on day 1 lynch, and I'll try to post reads later on. I'm always mildly suspicious of Sorian, though, just because it's so easy to assume that he is town.

Cheers and same to you. I always welcome all suspicions though. We don't get anywhere unless he are at each other's throats.
 
I don't think we're going to get much of anywhere today, tbh. Nobody wants to play their hands day 1. I'll be around, but I won't respond to anything unless I see there's something I can do or say.
 

Sorian

Banned
I don't think we're going to get much of anywhere today, tbh. Nobody wants to play their hands day 1. I'll be around, but I won't respond to anything unless I see there's something I can do or say.

Day 1 is very important for setting the framework for future days, I know that you know this.
 

batsnacks

Member
If I had to guess, I´ll say haly.

What if your choices were limited to these people?
1. cabbeh [m]
2. TheGoddamn [m]
3. roytheone [m]
4. Darryl [-]
5. Sorian [m]
6. batsnacks [m]
7. Fireblend [m]
8. Karkador [m]
9. Burbeting [m]
11. Ourobolus [m]
12. LaunchpadMcQ [m]
13. Lone_Prodigy [m]
14. Blargonaut [m]
15. RetroMG [m]
 
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