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Unfortunately there's almost no chance, there's another Izzet character all but confirmed to be a Planeswalker

Box-preorder canceled.

No seriously though, is it the guy from the comic cover? Can't remember his name off the top of my head.

He just doesn't seem that interesting to me, from a first glance character design standpoint. A Blue Red Human theif/Mage could be neat I guess, and maybe it's cus I haven't read the comics, but Niv would be a lot cooler.

Haly said:
It's Niv Mizzet in disguise.

I second this notion.

EDIT:

Also, based on playing with them in DotP 2013, the ring cycle is really neat. Had a spirit token from a doomed traveler, tossed the ring on it, and it was great.
 
Just played my first game of DotP13. It was pretty awful. I'd say 90% of the time was spent waiting for the AI deciding whether or not he wanted to attack me. I realize that's not normal, but we had a pretty strong stalemate going the whole game. I don't know why I didn't just throw in that card that makes me win at 40 life.

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The worst part is, the smaller of the Pridemates had gotten up to about 35 or so, bounced, then got up to 113 and bounced again.

More importantly, I'm glad to see they're finally reprinting the medallions. I still have a couple from Tempest, back when I originally played. Was always disappointed that they'd never been reprinted. Definitely going to get a playset or two of each.
 
Just played my first game of DotP13. It was pretty awful. I'd say 90% of the time was spent waiting for the AI deciding whether or not he wanted to attack me. I realize that's not normal, but we had a pretty strong stalemate going the whole game. I don't know why I didn't just throw in that card that makes me win at 40 life.



The worst part is, the smaller of the Pridemates had gotten up to about 35 or so, bounced, then got up to 113 and bounced again.

More importantly, I'm glad to see they're finally reprinting the medallions. I still have a couple from Tempest, back when I originally played. Was always disappointed that they'd never been reprinted. Definitely going to get a playset or two of each.

Was there a particular reason you weren't just swinging in every turn with the huge pridemates?

Also hate to burst your bubble but Medallions aren't being reprinted. :(
 
Was there a particular reason you weren't just swinging in every turn with the huge pridemates?

Also hate to burst your bubble but Medallions aren't being reprinted. :(
Wat?

But they have new art and everything! Why would they go through all the trouble D:

Also, they had those stupid Fod Banks and I had no way to deal with them.
 
Wat?

But they have new art and everything! Why would they go through all the trouble D:

Also, they had those stupid Fod Banks and I had no way to deal with them.

Yeah it was just for the game. What people in the community do is for a new set with every reveal of a card they can use the card number out of the set number and using what we know (color order, alphabetical) they start to rule out or speculate on cards. Unfortunately the artifact section is mostly filled and the spots for medallions don't exist.

If you're interested here's what is known so far:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=420726
 
Nicol bolas on the first play through is pretty damn easy, but man on revenge he is a mean fucker. Dropped 3 goddamn moxes his first turn.
It's a shame the decks are almost all mono colored, kind of a boring deck selection. Although it's neat being able to see how some of the m13 cards will play.
 
So the Banned and Restricted announcement has been updated, apparantly Land Tax will now be legal for GP Atlanta (which is Legacy) next weekend. I love it, can't wait to see if anyone does well with something like Parfait nowadays.
 
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The red dragon is pretty good, nicely costed for a 5/5 flyer and can have a big effect on the board before Lava Axing to the face.
Not sure about Faith's Reward, seems playable in a white weenie deck if they do a lot of trading.
 
That green spell was cool till I read the word "tapped".

That dragon is a nice change of pace from the other big mythic dragons we've gotten recently.
 
RG Aggro siding in the Dragon against token decks and what not? At least ones that use spirit tokens. Could be neat. 5/5 hasty flier for 5 is a great deal for your mana though, even without the fact that he slaps each of your opponent's fliers.

Looks like I'm gonna be using Ranger's Path once Rampant Growth rotates. :P

T1: Forest, Arbor Elf.
T2: Forest, cry.
T3: Forest, Ranger's Path.

lol I'm so upset (I'll get over it) at losing out on early ramp in green. It's always been my favorite way to play. But seriously, T2: the tap for 3 mana human isn't bad. But I don't know if I'll ever get over having to use Arbor Elf...haha
 
RG Aggro siding in the Dragon against token decks and what not? At least ones that use spirit tokens. Could be neat. 5/5 hasty flier for 5 is a great deal for your mana though, even without the fact that he slaps each of your opponent's fliers.

Looks like I'm gonna be using Ranger's Path once Rampant Growth rotates. :P

T1: Forest, Arbor Elf.
T2: Forest, cry.
T3: Forest, Ranger's Path.

lol I'm so upset (I'll get over it) at losing out on early ramp in green. It's always been my favorite way to play. But seriously, T2: the tap for 3 mana human isn't bad. But I don't know if I'll ever get over having to use Arbor Elf...haha

They are reprinting Farseek which can fetch the shocklands, a fine replacement for Rampant Growth.

Ranger's Path isn't very good as it's just overkill, Simulacrum is better before rotation and after there isn't really a good target past 5 yet.
 
I think the dragon will be great against Delver macthups. He can blow up the spirit tokens and force Delver to tap. Also Omniscience will be great in hypergenesis in Legacy.
 
I am actually very sad to see my favorite deck go. So many of the staple cards I use are going away.

Adaptive Automaton - No real replacement
Mortarpod - No real replacement
Geth's Verdict - A couple of strictly worse replacements
Cemetery Reaper - Diregraf is the only lord left
Go For the Throat - Murder will be fine. I'm cool with this one.

Basically, my favorite deck is down to Messanger, Gravecrawler, Diregraf Captain/Ghoul.

Time to really start play testing more decks.
 
I'm wondering if we'll get Pyroclasm back in 2013 or RtR. Faith's Reward would counter against that very nicely.

It stuffs Chandra's Fury really well:

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I wish the Odric deck in DOTP had Faith's Reward. Because it is not a good match up against that Chandra deck. Like at all. (Unless you get out the single Dawn Elemental. Then it is auto-win.)
 
RG Aggro siding in the Dragon against token decks and what not? At least ones that use spirit tokens. Could be neat. 5/5 hasty flier for 5 is a great deal for your mana though, even without the fact that he slaps each of your opponent's fliers.

Looks like I'm gonna be using Ranger's Path once Rampant Growth rotates. :P

T1: Forest, Arbor Elf.
T2: Forest, cry.
T3: Forest, Ranger's Path.

lol I'm so upset (I'll get over it) at losing out on early ramp in green. It's always been my favorite way to play. But seriously, T2: the tap for 3 mana human isn't bad. But I don't know if I'll ever get over having to use Arbor Elf...haha

I would think Delver would be more effected by it than a token deck that would most likely have something like Intangible Virtue/Honor of the Pure out.
 
I'm wondering if we'll get Pyroclasm back in 2013 or RtR. Faith's Reward would counter against that very nicely.

If you're playing a deck that doesn't want to get DoJ'd when are you going to have the mana up? 4 is normally where you want to be playing the game ending dude like Hero of Bladehold, leaving 4 land open telegraphs you have it and lets them play around it with another answer. If they don't have anything great, but that's quite narrow.

I am actually very sad to see my favorite deck go. So many of the staple cards I use are going away.

Adaptive Automaton - No real replacement
Mortarpod - No real replacement
Geth's Verdict - A couple of strictly worse replacements
Cemetery Reaper - Diregraf is the only lord left
Go For the Throat - Murder will be fine. I'm cool with this one.

Basically, my favorite deck is down to Messanger, Gravecrawler, Diregraf Captain/Ghoul.

Time to really start play testing more decks.

Adaptive Automaton and Cemetery Reaper are just bad cards, Geth's Verdict isn't strictly worse than Tribute to Hunger as double black is a big deal and Murder is an awkward card for the same reason. Mortarpod is a reasonable loss but not terrible, B/R zombies should still be good.
 
Cemetery Reaper saw some play. It was a lord, made tokens, didn't require an off-color, and had instant-speed target graveyard removal. It was relevant, especially against Reanimation decks.
 
I am actually very sad to see my favorite deck go. So many of the staple cards I use are going away.

Adaptive Automaton - No real replacement
Mortarpod - No real replacement
Geth's Verdict - A couple of strictly worse replacements
Cemetery Reaper - Diregraf is the only lord left
Go For the Throat - Murder will be fine. I'm cool with this one.

Basically, my favorite deck is down to Messanger, Gravecrawler, Diregraf Captain/Ghoul.

Time to really start play testing more decks.

Messenger,
Gravecrawler,
Diregraf Ghoul
!!!!BLOOD ARTIST!!!!
Butcher Ghoul

And some maybes

Bloodflow Connoiseur (sac outlet)
Highborn Ghoul

Not that great, but you can still run some pretty decent mono-black blood artist shennanigans
 
Good riddance sez I :p

Does it seem to anyone else that there has been a disproportianate number of blue spells with absurd casting costs lately? I suppose it's always been that way to a degree...

They'd have to nerf blue hard for two blocks in a row for me to ever feel bad for it.
 
Adaptive Automaton and Cemetery Reaper are just bad cards, Geth's Verdict isn't strictly worse than Tribute to Hunger as double black is a big deal and Murder is an awkward card for the same reason. Mortarpod is a reasonable loss but not terrible, B/R zombies should still be good.

You and I will never see eye-to-eye on double mana casted cards. If a deck has a problem with them, then the mana base is terrible. Reaper is definitely not a bad card, as keru explained...I get why others son't like AA though. I'm a fan of swiss army cards though.

Geth is instant, where as Tribute isn't, making it fairly useless for defense. Mortarpod is irreplaceable right now. No card does what it can do at the moment. I haven't even seen a B/R zombie deck yet, though I'm sure they're out there.

You have AVR demons with the sacrifice to use in zombies that people aren't using yet. People need to abuse those demons in zombies.

I've done one with Demon of Ashmouth, but the synergy isn't there yet. I'm working on it though. Sucks about Torpor Orb rotating too...

Messenger,
Gravecrawler,
Diregraf Ghoul
!!!!BLOOD ARTIST!!!!
Butcher Ghoul

And some maybes

Bloodflow Connoiseur (sac outlet)
Highborn Ghoul

Not that great, but you can still run some pretty decent mono-black blood artist shennanigans

Oh, I totally run a mono-black that has Bone Splinters, Blood Artist, GC and Messanger. It's done pretty well!
 
You're going to be able to use Llanowar Elf and Rampant Growth until Return to Ravinca comes out, you know that, right?

Of course, that's why I said after Growth rotates. I guess here's hoping to a printing in RTR? Probably not.

But yeah, Farseek fetching the G/X shocklands will be great.
 
Super random rules question:

If I cast the Life Link enchantment on my opponents creature and the next turn he attacks and hits me. Who gets the life? Do I get it nullifying the damage or does be get it.

This happened to me playing MTGO some months ago and my opponent got the life. After asking the question in the MTGO help chat with them stating what happened was correct. I've been playing under the assumption this is correct but a friend pointed out the ruling:

Comprehensive Rules:

702.14. Lifelink

702.14a. Lifelink is a static ability.

702.14b. Damage dealt by a source with lifelink causes that source‘s controller, or its owner if it has no controller, to gain that much life (in addition to any other results that damage causes). See rule 119.3.

702.14c. If a permanent leaves the battlefield before an effect causes it to deal damage, its last known information is used to determine whether it had lifelink.

702.14d. The lifelink rules function no matter what zone an object with lifelink deals damage from.

702.14e. Multiple instances of lifelink on the same object are redundant.


Keyword Defined

• The static ability happens whenever a permanent with lifelink deals any damage, not just combat damage.

• All older cards with this exact ability have received errata to change that ability to lifelink.

• Note that the card Spirit Link does not grant the creature it enchants lifelink. The lifelink ability has the creature's controller gain life. Spirit Link has Spirit Link's controller gain life.

The last sentence is what has me asking. Mostly for clarification at this point.
Thx
 
Super random rules question:

If I cast the Life Link enchantment on my opponents creature and the next turn he attacks and hits me. Who gets the life? Do I get it nullifying the damage or does be get it.

This happened to me playing MTGO some months ago and my opponent got the life. After asking the question in the MTGO help chat with them stating what happened was correct. I've been playing under the assumption this is correct but a friend pointed out the ruling:



The last sentence is what has me asking. Mostly for clarification at this point.
Thx

The HP goes to the source of the damage which is the creature, not the enchantment. Sprit link is a unique instance.
 
The Lifelink enchantment say "Enchanted creature has lifelink." So it acts as if the creature had Lifelink as an ability on its card. Since the other player will still be the creature's controller, he will gain the life.

Spirit Link says "whenever enchanted creature deals damage, you gain that much life." In this case the "you" is the controller of the enchantment, and not the controller of the creature so you will gain the life from an opponent's creature enchanted with it.
 
The last sentence is what has me asking. Mostly for clarification at this point.
Thx

The sentence about Spirit Link or 702.14e? Spirit Link does not grant lifelink at all, that's why they're clarifying that is a special case. 702.14e is just stating that you can't give the same creature lifelink multiple times and gain life for each instance of lifelink on that creature (I think).
 
Thanks guys!

The last part "Note that the card Spirit Link does not grant the creature it enchants lifelink. The lifelink ability has the creature's controller gain life. Spirit Link has Spirit Link's controller gain life." is what was causing all the problems.

Edit: So in my game on MTGO I should of gotten the life and not the creatures controller!
 
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