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[WanderingWind]

Shocks? Prices falling? I don't think so. Shocks are played in Eternal and Standard.

Originally, before Modern came out, Shocks were priced at ~US$10 apiece. Then Modern was announced, and prices shot up sky high. I don't really see it going below US$10 each.

They also were at a fixed quantity when a new format was announced. They aren't for the next year or so. A much greater supply leads to a drop in price.

Hell, we're already have factual proof of this, as the sale we're discussing shows. It's already happened.

 

[Boogalogist]

What sales discussion? did I miss something?

edit: man...big set...279 cards...only 5 shocks in this set. Wizards are gonna make lotsa money!!

 

[tch]

God forbid that decks only get to cast their instants and sorceries once! Kinda makes me sad that this hoses those burning vengeance decks. And this is coming for someone that owns snapcasters.

Woah I find it hard to believe they were selling shocks that low! Where on their site I can't even find RTR singles?

 

[bigkrev]

Shocks? Prices falling? I don't think so. Shocks are played in Eternal and Standard.

Originally, before Modern came out, Shocks were priced at ~US$10 apiece. Then Modern was announced, and prices shot up sky high. I don't really see it going below US$10 each.

Nowadays, with the gigantic print runs cards get, a reprint is going to massively lower the cost of a card. Look at Grim Lavamancer, Nantuko Shade, Solemn, ect. The print run for RTR is going to be sugnificantly higher than any of the previous Ravnica sets, so the market is going to be flooded. They will be under 10 each by this time next year

 

[Hero]

Where's the pre-order page on SCG? For some reason I'm not seeing it.

 

[kirblar]

Where's the pre-order page on SCG? For some reason I'm not seeing it.

http://sales.starcitygames.com//category.php?cat=5243

 

[Boogalogist]

I'd say Grim Lavamancer, Nantuko Shade and Solemn, etc were victims of power creep. Grim Lavamancer, Nantuko Shade and Solemn are rarely even used in eternal formats anymore.

Shocks on the other hand, are only trumped by original duals. I haven't seen any signs of land creep yet.

 

[kirblar]

Grim Lavamancer and Solemn both saw plenty of play on returning to Standard, and Grim L. still sees Legacy play.

Nantuko Shade, though, was an awfully timed reprint. There was no support for Mono-B. Or even "Mono" B, like there is now.

 

[Boogalogist]

Yup, Grim Lavamancer is still played in 1 or 2 deck types in Legacy...but no where as prevalent as shocks in eternal formats.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

I just preordered 3 Jace 4.0 @ $25 each. Most expensive card I've ever done that for, but I dont think I'll see that price again anytime soon.

Was it somewhere online?

 

[Angry Grimace]

Every time I see this thread I'm painfully reminded of the time I sold my entire collection for 20 bucks. Granted I never played anymore by that point (due to just constantly looking for rares that were totally impractical to play with) and when I did I totally cheated like the rest of my friends did (we were like 13), but I had a lot of rares, mostly Legends and Revised era stuff (even then nobody would play with you if you pulled out Moxes).

 

[Hero]

http://sales.starcitygames.com//category.php?cat=5243

Thanks, how do you get to these for future reference? I tried searching for cards and stuff, couldn't find the page.

Rakdos' Return at 4.99 seems tempting.

 

[tch]

So tempting they're out of stock haha. You didn't buy then out did you?

 

[narcosis219]

Take that, Flashback!

Wat.

2/1 for 1 in G AND W. AND you get to hose flashback/snapcaster? WTF. This is the definition of VALUE.

 

[Hero]

So tempting they're out of stock haha. You didn't buy then out did you?

Nope. Went to play a game of LoL and they're out of stock. Damnit.

 

[Kurtofan]

Lotleth Troll BG
2/1
Trample
Discard a creature card from your hand: Put a +1/+1 counter on Lotleth Troll.
B : Regenerate Lotleth Troll.

 

[Negator]

Seems amazing with Gravecrawler.

Man, you can even save its Discard effect for when you have an open black mana. Can you say godlike?

 

[Hero]

God damn that is going to be good with Gravecrawler.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

BG zombies really is going to be a deck.

 

[Haly]

2/1 for 1 in G AND W. AND you get to hose flashback/snapcaster? WTF. This is the definition of VALUE.

Uncommon and non-legendary to boot.

 

[Negator]

Fuck you Highborn Ghoul, get out of my deck!

 

[narcosis219]

A zombie troll just sounds unfair.

Trolls don't die cause they regenerate... now this one is an UNDEAD TROLL. I LOVE IT.

 

[An-Det]

Take that, Flashback!

That's awesome, love it. Gotta love power creep though. 15 years ago Jackal Pup was a 1-man 2/1 with a decent drawback, now they need to give the same thing an awesome ability just to have it see play.

 

[Guesong]

Timmmmmmmmmmmmyyyyy!

 

[Volimar]

Holy shit!

 

[The Technomancer]

Holy shit I just noticed this piece of art in one of the DailyMTG articles:

Looks like

 

[Negator]

With the advent of the new Black/Green zombies, I feel as if the current zombie deck is going to have to go three color to survive. Unless they spoil some amazing mono black or black/green removal, Zombies will have to splash red to get solid removal.

I'm assuming such a manabase would look something like

4x Overgrown Tomb
4x Woodland Cemetary
4x Blood Crypts
4x Dragonskull Summit
4x Cavern of Souls
3x Swamp

I'm also curious to know if we will even have room for the non-zombies in the deck. If we get another solid two drop zombie, will the deck still be using Blood Artist? Does it have enough competition in the 4 drop slot to kick out Falkenrath Aristocrat?

Guess it might just be too early to speculate.

 

[ultron87]

I thought Izzet vs Golgari was out today. But it is actually out on Friday. Bummer.

Also, how the hell does SCG get away with charging 29.99 for it on preorder? http://sales.starcitygames.com/carddisplay.php?product=409988 I understand the value of the cards probably adds up to that, but you should be able to buy the thing at MSRB at most big retail stores.

 

[OnPoint]

Really tempted by Dreadbore at $5, I think that's going to jump.

I just realized how many leading deck archetypes are going to disappear after rotation. Should be really interesting to see where standard heads.

 

[kirblar]

They have 11 of the Jaces back up. (Someone just bought 22 - it was 33 a minute ago, lol)

edit: Their system seems to be auto-populating the preorders. I wonder when they'll figure out they've underpriced him.

 

[crimsonspider89]

Maverick just got a new play toy. Yeah.

Wormrakul. Sneak Attack, go. LOL.

B/G zombies will be funny or could evolve to BGR zombies.

Rakdos outside of the R/B kill creature or plainswalker spell, looks weak compared to the others.

 

[red13th]

wtf that Dryad seems so power creepy.

 

[ZZMitch]

Really tempted by Dreadbore at $5, I think that's going to jump.

I just realized how many leading deck archetypes are going to disappear after rotation. Should be really interesting to see where standard heads.

Just for confirmation here: Modern decks can have all cards (minus banned ones) 8th Edition and beyond while Standard decks are only the ones from the past year? What do most people play?

 

[red13th]

Standard is latest block plus the one before that (so, 2 years of content), and it's the most played format as far as I can tell.

 

[ZZMitch]

Standard is latest block plus the one before that (so, 2 years of content), and it's the most played format as far as I can tell.

Okay thanks. If I have a deck with cards from many different sets over many years what format would that be, vintage?

 

[ultron87]

Okay thanks. If I have a deck with cards from many different sets over many years what format would that be, vintage?

Legacy and Vintage both contain stuff from all sets. Legacy just has a more restrictive ban list so it is of a somewhat lower power level.

 

[ZZMitch]

Legacy and Vintage both contain stuff from all sets. Legacy just has a more restrictive ban list so it is of a somewhat lower power level.

Okay so legacy would probably be a better choice then, thanks! I should probably focus on getting a standard deck in October once the new set is out.

 

[sammich]

Since i never played those cards with the dual symbols, is it your choice of 1 or the other, or is it both?
For example, is the dryad Militant 1G1W or is it 1G or 1W? I think i answered my own question as they would have put it as GW if it was both.. but what the hell. Its my stupid question for the day.

 

[kudos.]

Since i never played those cards with the dual symbols, is it your choice of 1 or the other, or is it both?
For example, is the dryad Militant 1G1W or is it 1G or 1W? I think i answered my own question as they would have put it as GW if it was both.. but what the hell. Its my stupid question for the day.

Just one or the other.

 

[The Technomancer]

Since i never played those cards with the dual symbols, is it your choice of 1 or the other, or is it both?
For example, is the dryad Militant 1G1W or is it 1G or 1W? I think i answered my own question as they would have put it as GW if it was both.. but what the hell. Its my stupid question for the day.

One or the other. Its a pretty neat mechanic.

 

[Venfayth]

Looks like the beta has started for the new MTGO client. Anyone tried it? Hoping they fixed some of the annoying stuff that was in the preview release.

edit: Lol still getting a critical error upon launch. Fantastic.

 

[TheSeks]

So, what was last months Magic Players reward thingy for online?

And the DotP '13 code redemption thingy for the Magic celebration on the 8th is going to be a leaked code right?

 

[ultron87]

Yeah, I assume that the DOTP code is just one of those 10 codes to unlock stuff that everyone playing online already has.

I want the DLC for that so bad.

 

[Yeef]

That dryad is going to have to replace the Elite Vanguards in my soldier deck.

 

[TheSeks]

Yeah, I assume that the DOTP code is just one of those 10 codes to unlock stuff that everyone playing online already has.

I'm not sure if I want to brave the awkwardness that was my last LCGS outing like last years celebration for a code if it's just one of the leaked ones. :/ (or a one-time used one. :/)

 

[Venfayth]

That dryad is going to have to replace the Elite Vanguards in my soldier deck.

I really really wish it was a human :<

I also wish Champion of Lambholt was a human soldier!

 

[narcosis219]

MTGO beta client feels weird because I no longer get audio cues as to which phase it is. My first game consisted of me skipping like 3 main1 and 3 combat steps lol.

Also, everything seems to be hidden away in even more awkward places. I can't even sort by creature type anymore. Disappoint.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Timmmmmmmmmmmmyyyyy!

I know this card sucks ass but I can't even describe how much I want this card. <3 Wurms.


And all the dual lands are $12.99 or $9.99 on scg, that's pretty damn tempting...

 

[Venfayth]

Eh, loses to vapor snag.

 

[TheSeks]

Huh? Unless the 15/15 gets shocked/terror-ized it seems pretty hearty to me?