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I think we need a confirmation on that translation on the Sphinx's ability. I'm seeing other sources say that it reads:

"Discard 2 non-land cards of the same name."

Different name makes more sense, to me, and is better.
 
The Bellmusic Sphinx seems to be a erroneous translation. Apparently it's "Discard two cards with the same name: Draw 4 cards."

Much less crazy than it would be with the other translation. It makes a huge difference and makes this card much much worse.
 
The Technomancer said:
Whoa, is that right? It seems insanely good. On the one hand, its on a creature, so its killable. On the other hand, its repeatable. Someone is going to break this so hard.
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It doesn't matter. You want to kill it? I'll just start drawing cards in response until I pull a counterspell, or until I've drawn enough cards to just straight win the game next turn.

This card is insane.


Yeef said:
The Bellmusic Sphinx seems to be a erroneous translation. Apparently it's "Discard two cards with the same name: Draw 4 cards."

Much less crazy than it would be with the other translation. It makes a huge difference and makes this card much much worse.
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Are you shooting down my hopes and dreams?
 
Yeef said:
The Bellmusic Sphinx seems to be a erroneous translation. Apparently it's "Discard two cards with the same name: Draw 4 cards."

Much less crazy than it would be with the other translation. It makes a huge difference and makes this card much much worse.
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Whew. I literally could not believe they would print the other version.
 
OnPoint said:
Bellmusic Sphinx would fit right at home in a Battle of Wits deck



I guess that makes sense.
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Part of it is you have too many colors for the double color but there's major mana fixing with ravnica. But also, it's just so much shittier than unburial rights, if nothing else than flashback AND being cheaper if you discard it. There's just no room for it unfortunately.
 
It's discard two non-land cards with the same name, not different names. Even I haven't played MTG in a while... two cards with different names is already broken by default.
 
With the original translation you could have filled your graveyard in one single turn if you wanted to.

It would have made Laboratory Maniac amazing. lawl
 
Those promo cards without a solid backing are awesome. I wish Magic would go with them or make collector's editions of all the cards like that. :(
 
divisionbyzorro said:
Also promo cards:
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Nice! I don't know if I prefer mass of tentacles Corpsejack or mass of tentacles with vagina dentata face; both are equally unappealing. I have a friend who'll probably love it, though. Out of the pre-release promos, Rakdos and Azorius have the best art.

Buy-a-box promo looks terrific.
 
TheSeks said:
Holy shit, are there more cards with that ability? That's kinda neat to see but pretty useless with the power creep Magic has going on.
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Nope, Relentless Rats is the only non-basic land card that breaks the 4 per deck rule.

The discard 2 of the same name is probably used with lands only... The only other time I could think of using this practically is with squadron hawk. Even then, you can only do it once
 
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~Slime shaping
XG
Sorcery (Uncommon)
Put an X/X green Ooze token onto the battlefield.
 
zoukka said:
Not a bomb by any definition.
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Yeah.... there are plenty of creatures that are X/X for CMC X+1, usually with effects and keywords tacked on.

This just gives you a vanilla that will be overcosted at every value of X (we're comparing to green of course)

However, in limited it could be "bomby" because you can sink 9 mana into this on turn 15... or something.
 
^^4cmc Enchantment cycle pertaining to each keyword? Wonder how the Izzet and Rakdos ones would look, if this really is a full cycle.

Yeef said:
~Slime shaping
XG
Sorcery (Uncommon)
Put an X/X green Ooze token onto the battlefield.
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Decent token generator for Selesnya shenanigans.

With Intangible Virtue on the field it at least gets Vigilance, as well.

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Precinct Captain WW

Creature - Human Soldier

First Strike
Whenever Precinct Captain deals combat damage to a player, put a 1/1 white Soldier creature token onto the battlefield.
“In hard times, we all need someone watching our back“.

2/2
 
So I made a list of a bunch of Standard cards that I'm missing from my online collection, and priced them all out on MTGO Traders. I then stared at my $300 shopping cart and decided that maybe I should be a bit more, shall we say, selective about which cards I pick up, especially since I'll probably be spending way too much money on Ravnica...

I guess that's the appeal of eternal formats, huh? Your money isn't quite going to as much waste as it is in Standard...
 
Hell yes it's awesome. Facing tokens? Devastate them. For everyone else, they'll be discarding all of their non-land permanents to get their hand back to 7. Not to mention the sweet Chris Rahn art.
 
Lol. And control is "dead" right?Bounce all your shit, detain all your shit, tap all your shit, counter what I want...

Yeah. Control players will have plenty of tools so they don't have to "just turn guys sideways derp"
 
WanderingWind said:
Lol. And control is "dead" right?Bounce all your shit, detain all your shit, tap all your shit, counter what I want...

Yeah. Control players will have plenty of tools so they don't have to "just turn guys sideways derp"
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Eh, control wasn't viable before now and it still may not be. And countering is kind of dead now...
 
So I just picked up my local stores last Izzet vs. Golgari and the guy kept sayin I was lucky cause I'm getting it at retail price still. What's its resale price or whatever??
 
ajf009 said:
So I just picked up my local stores last Izzet vs. Golgari and the guy kept sayin I was lucky cause I'm getting it at retail price still. What's its resale price or whatever??
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There are some damn valuable cards in that, IIRC. You basically make money on it. That's what I've heard anyway, I'm not sure of the specific cards that are worth a lot :)
 
Two Wild Beastmistresses swing together.

They're both 2/2s?

I'm wondering how battle cry effects stack with her, basically.

I think the only way it would make sense is if Battle Cry's don't affect her trigger at all.
 
Venfayth said:
Two Wild Beastmistresses swing together.

They're both 2/2s?

I'm wondering how battle cry effects stack with her, basically.

I think the only way it would make sense is if Battle Cry's don't affect her trigger at all.
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WB1 and WB2 swing.
Put WB1's trigger on the stack, then put WB2's trigger on the stack.
WB2's trigger resolves. WB1 is now a 2/2.
WB1's trigger resolves. WB2 is now a 3/3.

So if two Wild Beastmistresses attack together, you attack with a 2/2 and a 3/3.
 
divisionbyzorro said:
WB1 and WB2 swing.
Put WB1's trigger on the stack, then put WB2's trigger on the stack.
WB2's trigger resolves. WB1 is now a 2/2.
WB1's trigger resolves. WB2 is now a 3/3.

So if two Wild Beastmistresses attack together, you attack with a 2/2 and a 3/3.
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Wouldn't both triggers be on the stack as +1/+1, though, since they're both 1/1's when attacking is declared?
 
Venfayth said:
Wouldn't both triggers be on the stack as +1/+1, though, since they're both 1/1's when attacking is declared?
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The trigger only looks at her power when it resolves.

Comprehensive Rules said:
603.3. Once an ability has triggered, its controller puts it on the stack as an object that’s not a card the next time a player would receive priority. See rule 116, “Timing and Priority.” The ability becomes the topmost object on the stack. It has the text of the ability that created it, and no other characteristics. It remains on the stack until it’s countered, it resolves, a rule causes it to be removed from the stack, or an effect moves it elsewhere.

608.2g If an effect requires information from the game (such as the number of creatures on the battlefield), the answer is determined only once, when the effect is applied. If the effect requires information from a specific object, including the source of the ability itself or a target that’s become illegal, the effect uses the current information of that object if it’s in the public zone it was expected to be in; if it’s no longer in that zone, or if the effect has moved it from a public zone to a hidden zone, the effect uses the object’s last known information. See rule 112.7a. If an ability states that an object does something, it’s the object as it exists—or as it most recently existed—that does it, not the ability.
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So if you Hydrosurge Beastmistress in response to the trigger, you effectively nullify her ability. If you Murder it, it still goes off with the power that she had as Murder resolved.
 
Yeah, control has been bad and getting worse and worse the entire time Innistrad's been legal.

The U/x tempo decks just wrecked control builds unless control decks started going inbred to beat them, at which point they just got exposed by other parts of the field. Supreme Verdict is a big deal for all 3 formats.
 
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