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[The Technomancer]

why would they care so much? does it cut down on how many boosters they sell?

Old article, on a much more dramatic situation, but still a good read:
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr233

A bit more:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr40

 

[An-Det]

Hell yeah it does. Even I, a pack whore, am thinking about just buying some singles instead. I mean, I already know what I want and how many of each.

How does it leaking early change that though? A week from now is prereleases start, by which time the entire set would be legitimately known anyway, so what difference does it make if you have the same knowledge a few weeks in advance?

 

[WanderingWind]

How does it leaking early change that though? A week from now is prereleases start, by which time the entire set would be legitimately known anyway, so what difference does it make if you have the same knowledge a few weeks in advance?

Because that's why and how pre-release events work in any form of entertainment. The thrill of the unknown is a HUGE draw from Magic, in particular. That's why they sell them in blind packages, unlike other forms of media. Take that away, and a certain segment of your population will take a different route.

 

[The Technomancer]

How does it leaking early change that though? A week from now is prereleases start, by which time the entire set would be legitimately known anyway, so what difference does it make if you have the same knowledge a few weeks in advance?

Have you ever heard the idea that the imminence of reveal is more exciting then the reveal itself? carefully modulated card previews can be better at working the wider market into a frenzy then just laying all the cards on the table and saying "here you go"

They're trying to build hype, and it definitely worked for me when I was fifteen or so. New Magic set releases were like a holiday, and following each dropped preview card only got me more invested. I still remember waking up early to check the Dissension previews before school and spending the whole day excited about Experiment Kraj.

 

[siddx]

How does it leaking early change that though? A week from now is prereleases start, by which time the entire set would be legitimately known anyway, so what difference does it make if you have the same knowledge a few weeks in advance?

By the time the entire set is usually shown, pre-releases are usually starting. Now everyone has had weeks to go through and learn every single card. Drafting is going to be hell (but still fun) because the top drafters now know the set inside and out.

 

[WanderingWind]

I guarantee next time around they're not giving out full spoilers to any one person. Like other spoiler-heavy materials, only bits and pieces will be given out.

 

[An-Det]

Because that's why and how pre-release events work in any form of entertainment. The thrill of the unknown is a HUGE draw from Magic, in particular. That's why they sell them in blind packages, unlike other forms of media. Take that away, and a certain segment of your population will take a different route.

Have you ever heard the idea that the imminence of reveal is more exciting then the reveal itself? carefully modulated card previews can be better at working the wider market into a frenzy then just laying all the cards on the table and saying "here you go"

They're trying to build hype, and it definitely worked for me when I was fifteen or so. New Magic set releases were like a holiday, and following each dropped preview card only got me more invested. I still remember waking up early to check the Dissension previews before school and spending the whole day excited about Experiment Kraj.

I was referring to buying singles vs packs based on knowledge of the set leaking a few weeks ahead of schedule. The thrill of the new is absolutely a drawback from the leak, that I do agree with.

By the time the entire set is usually shown, pre-releases are usually starting. Now everyone has had weeks to go through and learn every single card. Drafting is going to be hell (but still fun) because the top drafters now know the set inside and out.

That also is a concern, though I'm not too worried about that for prereleases/releases. By the time normal events start with NPH the info would be known anyway.

 

[OneEightZero]

I guarantee next time around they're not giving out full spoilers to any one person. Like other spoiler-heavy materials, only bits and pieces will be given out.

That GodBook looked like what they send the printer to actually make the cards. Notice the CMYK at the bottom of each page. ^_^

Edit: I guess they send those to reviewers too... I just saw the article.

 

[siddx]

You know, I didn't really agree with some of ya'lls statements regarding the CPU cheating in Duels of the Planeswalkers until I decided to boot it up again and play some matches against Nicol Bolas. I know the difficulty ramps up the more you beat a deck, but it's gotten absurd now. The motherfucker always always has the exact card he needs. Needs a terror? Top decks it. Needs a disemtomb for the fatty I just killed off? Top decks it. Needs some burn? Needs a flyer? Needs to take a piss in my wounds? Always has it.


Anyways, I just spent 180 bucks on...7 cards.
4 natural orders, a visions edition, a portal one, and 2 judge promo ones. And 3 emrakuls to make a playset (I run them in a ramp/natural order deck). The idea of spending two booster boxes worth of money on 7 cards is insane but I really need those natural orders. And they have nowhere to go but up in value unless for some reason they ban them.
Now I just need to slowly buy some other staples like wastelands, force of wills,

 

[victreeb3l]

is there a reason wizards makes shit cards? or is it possible to make good use out of every card they make and im just too stupid to get it?

 

[WanderingWind]

is there a reason wizards makes shit cards? or is it possible to make good use out of every card they make and im just too stupid to get it?

I am still learning of course, but it seems cards I find completely worthless are valued by somebody. Fetch lands, for starters.

 

[siddx]

is there a reason wizards makes shit cards? or is it possible to make good use out of every card they make and im just too stupid to get it?

Many cards that appear to me shit cards are valuable in draft. For instance that boring vanilla 5/4 for 6 sucks in any other format, and it's still only so so in draft, but it's going to cause problems for your opponent when it hits the board.
Same thing with other smaller vanilla creatures that would just be taking up space in other formats. That grizzly bear is just a dull 2/2 most of the time, but if you manage to draft a bunch of cheap creatures just like it, you have an army that can overwhelm your opponent.
Other cards that don't see a whole lot of play in constructed like cards that just tap a creature are valuable because sometimes thats all it takes to win in draft, tapping that one creature keeping you from a win. When you have a vastly limited card base to create your deck from, otherwise boring or even shitty cards gain value.

 

[The Technomancer]

is there a reason wizards makes shit cards? or is it possible to make good use out of every card they make and im just too stupid to get it?

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr5

 

[siddx]

I am still learning of course, but it seems cards I find completely worthless are valued by somebody. Fetch lands, for starters.

I don't remember if it was talked about because I only recall people mentioning using fetchlands to make sure they get the right mana out and thinning the deck, but one of the big advantages to fetchlands these days is in decks that benefit from having lands in the graveyard. For instance in decks with knight of the reliquary, having a bunch of fetch lands can potentially mean your turn 3 knight is a 4/4 when it comes out and swings for 5 or 6 the next turn if you have a noble hierarch or other card with exalted (which is typically played in decks with the knight). It also helps add another card type for tarmogoyf as well.
And in standard, they work very well in landfall decks, letting you trigger landfall twice in one turn.

 

[The Technomancer]

One of the posterchild shit cards, One With Nothing, was still a lynchpin in my brother's Rakdos deck. One mana hellbent activation could swing games.

 

[siddx]

One of the posterchild shit cards, One With Nothing, was still a lynchpin in my brother's Rakdos deck. One mana hellbent activation could swing games.

Yeah cards with odd abilities like one with nothing very often find a clever combo that makes it, if not good, at least useful.

 

[Takuan]

Gideon's Avenger, if a real card, is pretty cool.

1WW for a 2/2 that gets a +1/+1 counter every time an opponent's creature becomes tapped. Nastiness.

 

[The Technomancer]

Gideon's Avenger, if a real card, is pretty cool.

1WW for a 2/2 that gets a +1/+1 counter every time an opponent's creature becomes tapped. Nastiness.

Where did you see that? That would be brutal.

 

[Takuan]

Where did you see that? That would be brutal.

There's an unconfirmed M12 spoiler in MTGS' Rumor Mill. One rare and one mythic. The mythic is Furyborn Dragon, a 7CC red dragon with a 6/6 body that comes into play with as a 12/12 if an opponent was dealt damage on the same turn. So essentially a 12/12 flier for 8. There's pictoral evidence, and it's hard to tell if they're good fakes, but the art is unsourcable and the cards' mechanics are convincing. I think they're legit, but no one knows for sure.

Thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=320290

If the dragon is real, I think it's a good indication that the titans won't be back in M12. It'd be a complete waste of a mythic spot otherwise.

 

[Leunam]

Yeah, I'm really liking that Dragon. Will definitely find a spot in my Sarkhan Dragon deck.

 

[Takuan]

I'm really liking that the NPH spoiler and this dragon in M12 point to the titans not being around for too much longer. They'd just make so many important figures in the story completely worthless in Standard.

 

[The Technomancer]

I'm really liking that the NPH spoiler and this dragon in M12 point to the titans not being around for too much longer. They'd just make so many important figures in the story completely redundant.

Hm?

 

[Takuan]

Hm?

I'm actually only talking Phyrexia's praetors, who aren't playable in Standard while the titans still exist. They all have pretty powerful abilities, but are being completely dismissed because they cost too much. The one exception is Urabrask because he ramps into Inferno Titan.

 

[Akim]

aw yeah, got 4x LED now!

Thinking pretty hard about quitting the game though

 

[noquarter]

If you decide to quit, I was going to start trying to get LED's soon, really want to play Dredge.

But really you should keep playing.

 

[WanderingWind]

aw yeah, got 4x LED now!

Thinking pretty hard about quitting the game though

Why?

 

[Totakeke]

Anyone know when does the SOM block constructed becomes "active"? I'm thinking of buying cards to make a deck.

 

[suffah]

Anyone know when does the SOM block constructed becomes "active"? I'm thinking of buying cards to make a deck.

What do you mean by active? It's already fairly popular on MODO, never see block play with paper though.

 

[Totakeke]

Hmm, well maybe I have a skewed view of what people play since all I see is T2 constructed mostly. I suppose what I mean is when do the GPs and PTs start to play SOM block constructed so other people would play that more often too?

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

I wish I could remember what singles I wanted to buy. My memory is so terrible.

 

[alternade]

There's a national qualifier at my shop. Thinking of going but I'm not too confident in my decks. All I run is UB infect and recently mono white battle cry.

 

[Gatekeeper]

I wish I could remember what singles I wanted to buy. My memory is so terrible.

Any good singles site will have a wish list that you can save them to, at least on items they have out of stock.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Any good singles site will have a wish list that you can save them to, at least on items they have out of stock.

They probably do but I never sign in when just looking over singles. O, I think it was stuff for the elf deck I gave up on again. Wish it was cheaper to make.

Ah, I wanted another hero and hand of praetors for infect. That's what it was.

 

[Akim]

Just found this in a garbage bag in my garage

awwwww yeah

 

[Takuan]

Just found this in a garbage bag in my garage

awwwww yeah

You had these sitting in a garbage bag? What the...

 

[siddx]

My natural orders arrived, awwww yeah! They look so purty in my deck. Especially the judge foil promo ones.

 

[Akim]

My natural orders arrived, awwww yeah! They look so purty in my deck. Especially the judge foil promo ones.

i'm jelly

You had these sitting in a garbage bag? What the...

My dad called me and said he found magic cards in a bag that was going to the dump. Those were the only thing good in there though. But that's like what, 60 bucks?

 

[WanderingWind]

i'm jelly

My dad called me and said he found magic cards in a bag that was going to the dump. Those were the only thing good in there though. But that's like what, 60 bucks?

Wow. Somebody, somewhere could use 'em.

I bought a booster box of Scars for 75 bucks today, with some amazing results. Pulled 2 Vesner and a Geth, so I was pretty excited. We built decks out of only what came out of the box and I got spanked like, 4 times in a row. I suck at infect/metalcraft. Ratchet bomb and tumble magnets are kinda need though.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Wow. Somebody, somewhere could use 'em.

I bought a booster box of Scars for 75 bucks today, with some amazing results. Pulled 2 Vesner and a Geth, so I was pretty excited. We built decks out of only what came out of the box and I got spanked like, 4 times in a row. I suck at infect/metalcraft. Ratchet bomb and tumble magnets are kinda need though.

Where did you find a box for $75?

 

[WanderingWind]

Where did you find a box for $75?

At a giant ass collectible show in SoCal. Some dude was selling shit that he had no idea about the value. Some stuff was way cheap, some ridiculously overpriced. He was selling sleeves for 2 bucks, deck boxes for 12! and boxes of every set from Urza on up.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

At a giant ass collectible show in SoCal. Some dude was selling shit that he had no idea about the value. Some stuff was way cheap, some ridiculously overpriced. He was selling sleeves for 2 bucks, deck boxes for 12! and boxes of every set from Urza on up.

And with that my hate for you grows a little more....

 

[WanderingWind]

And with that my hate for you grows a little more....

I'm sorry. I almost bought a box of Coldsnap for 115. Worth it?

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

I'm sorry. I almost bought a box of Coldsnap for 115. Worth it?

Eh, as far as price goes it's around that price give or take $15 online. The rest depends on if there's anything you want in that set. It's the cheapest of the ice age block though IIRC.

 

[siddx]

I'm sorry. I almost bought a box of Coldsnap for 115. Worth it?

Coldsnap was awful. Definitely not worth it. You could buy playsets off all the best cards and still spend less than $115. Dark Depths is the only month card and it goes for 20 a piece in mint condition.

I would have been extremely tempted to get an Urza's Saga box

 

[Akim]

I've been cracking packs of onslaught with my FNM prize money every week. I regret it every time.

 

[siddx]

I've been cracking packs of onslaught with my FNM prize money every week. I regret it every time.

Haven't got any fetchlands yet? They are the only good cards in the damn set outside of goblin sharpshooter.

 

[Akim]

Haven't got any fetchlands yet? They are the only good cards in the damn set outside of goblin sharpshooter.

also Piledriver

 

[WanderingWind]

Coldsnap was awful. Definitely not worth it. You could buy playsets off all the best cards and still spend less than $115. Dark Depths is the only month card and it goes for 20 a piece in mint condition.

I would have been extremely tempted to get an Urza's Saga box

What was awesome in Urza? I can get it for 300.

 

[HK-47]

Just found this in a garbage bag in my garage

awwwww yeah

Mental Misstep is gonna fuck Top's day up

 

[An-Det]

Grand Prix Trial at Die Hard Games tomorrow. Bunch of friends are going and Dave (the owner) is an awesome guy, so should be a great day.