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An-Det said:
Top 8 from Pro Tour Philly is now up here. Not a huge surprise that is a dominated by combo, but I do wish we had access to at least the top 16 to see more of the top stuff and more variety.

Video coverage of the top 8 will start tomorrow morning.

Rooting for affinity. :)
 
An-Det said:
Top 8 from Pro Tour Philly is now up here. Not a huge surprise that is a dominated by combo, but I do wish we had access to at least the top 16 to see more of the top stuff and more variety.

Video coverage of the top 8 will start tomorrow morning.

Haven't been following modern, but looks like a fun format with all those decks.
 
I've had a Mono-Red Rage Extractor deck I've been doing pretty well in FNM with, but since 11th is rotating out at the end of the month; I decided to tear it apart and make it a combo Rage Extractor/Infect R/G deck:

Red:
Rage Extractor x4
Moltensteel Dragon x4
Volt Charge x4
Ruthless Invasion x3
Slash Panther x2
Fireball x2
Blisterstick Shaman x1
Chandra, the Firebrand x1
Umbrask the Hidden x1

Green:
Llanowar Elves x4
Glistner Elf x4
Mycosynth Fiend x2
Phyrexian Swarmlord x2
Cystbearer x2
Blight Mamba x1
Rot Wolf x1

Artifacts:
Shrine of Burning Rage x2

Land:
Mountain x11
Forest x9
 
Improved video quality on the PT broadcast is a godsend. You can actually see what's going on now.

This is one of the fastest PT top 8's I can ever recall watching. It's blistering in terms of pace, obviously due in large part to there being no control presence in this format.
 
Yeah the video coverage is pretty good. No random ads on screen and in higher definition than SCG is awesome. Shame the commentators are kinda boring, but we can't get Chapin and Ari Lax in the booth every time.

Definitely a fast quarterfinals though. So much combo.
 
I was scoping around the MTGO tourney practice room today and EVERY SINGLE MODERN match was lists from the T8, lol.

I hope they officially announce 'good-bye' to Extended after this event.

Edit: Welp, there's goes affinity, bah, he should have been more aggresive with Atog.
 
Not sure Josh really deserved to win that after misplaying game 1 and Black facing horrible luck with his filtering spells, but I'm glad we got something other than combo in the finals. Here's to hoping Counter-Cat can win.
 
darkside31337 said:
All the 18+ point Modern decks at Philly - http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/ptphi11/topmoderndecks

There is no point at looking at the top 8 decks and trying to formulate something out of the format from that, as PT's are now split into two components including M12 draft this weekend. People always do it though. Personally love that Living End deck in there.

I'm surprised LSV got 27 pts and didn't make the cut. He usually tears up the limited portion.
 
suffah said:
I'm surprised LSV got 27 pts and didn't make the cut. He usually tears up the limited portion.

Yeah it was interesting, LSV was in a featured draft pod - http://gatherer.wizards.com/magic/d..._2011_1&player=3&pack=1&pick=1&showpick=false

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazi...ly/eventcoverage/ptphi11/featureDraftingGreen

Sadin did a writeup of this draft, which basically sums up the state of Green in M12 drafting. That entire draft was bizarre, it was obvious nobody intended to be in it but then overadjusted to signals.
 
Considering getting into this, used to enjoy card games when I was younger but never really had any friends as nerdy as me to play with. Looking into events in my area and there are more than I was expecting but kinda worried that the people aren't going to be the kind I like to hang out or play with. Anyone in here from the UK? Get the impression most people are in the States.
 
f0rk said:
Considering getting into this, used to enjoy card games when I was younger but never really had any friends as nerdy as me to play with. Looking into events in my area and there are more than I was expecting but kinda worried that the people aren't going to be the kind I like to hang out or play with. Anyone in here from the UK? Get the impression most people are in the States.

You'll never know unless you go...pre-release is coming up or find a FNM.
 
darkside31337 said:
All the 18+ point Modern decks at Philly - http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/ptphi11/topmoderndecks

There is no point at looking at the top 8 decks and trying to formulate something out of the format from that, as PT's are now split into two components including M12 draft this weekend. People always do it though. Personally love that Living End deck in there.

Seems like the metagame starts with Affinity, Zoo/bant, Twin, 12Post, Ascension, Pod, Storm, and Infect as tier one, but with tons of variation in many of these. There were also some others like Hive Mind and BUG there. Not bad, I can't wait to see what happens once regular, large events start up (hopefully a ptq season next year), not to mention MTGO and local events.
 
Samuele Estratti has won with Splinter Twin!

My favorite response so far is from Adam Nightmare: "Congrats to @wrapter on a hell of a run! Congrats to some Italian guy on playing Blood Moon in his Standard deck!"


Main Deck
60 cards

1 Breeding Pool
4 Cascade Bluffs
5 Island
3 Misty Rainforest
3 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Steam Vents
23 lands

4 Deceiver Exarch
2 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
3 Pestermite
2 Spellskite
11 creatures

2 Dispel
1 Disrupting Shoal
3 Firespout
1 Lightning Bolt
2 Pact of Negation
4 Ponder
4 Preordain
4 Remand
1 Sleight of Hand
4 Splinter Twin
26 other spells

Sideboard
2 Ancient Grudge
3 Blood Moon
1 Deprive
2 Dismember
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Lightning Bolt
2 Spellskite
1 Vendilion Clique
15 sideboard cards
 
suffah said:
You'll never know unless you go...

Yeah, I found a local comic shop that seems to run pretty FNMs and Uni starts up again soon which has a biweekly tournament. If nothing comes up might go down and have a look next Friday.
What's the best combo of stuff to buy when starting? One of those ~£35 fat boxes? I'd like to be reasonable competitive without spending too much money before I know if I really like the game.
 
f0rk said:
Yeah, I found a local comic shop that seems to run pretty FNMs and Uni starts up again soon which has a biweekly tournament. If nothing comes up might go down and have a look next Friday.
What's the best combo of stuff to buy when starting? One of those ~£35 fat boxes? I'd like to be reasonable competitive without spending too much money before I know if I really like the game.
Wait a month. Innestrad is coming out and Standard will be rotating, which is always the best time to start. Wait for the "Event Decls" that come out with each set for something that is relatively cheap (25 USD) for the value of the cards, and has the ability to win some games at an FNM. The Vampire one they did for M12 contained a money rare (Verdent Catacombs), and tons of high value uncommons. The Equipment one they did for New Phyrexia had 2 Stoneforge Mystics before they got banned.
 
Wowow: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/159

The thought they put into the setting is incredible, and the art they're showing off is...unlike anything Magic has really done before.

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I am so hyped
 
darkside31337 said:
Yeah it was interesting, LSV was in a featured draft pod - http://gatherer.wizards.com/magic/d..._2011_1&player=3&pack=1&pick=1&showpick=false

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazi...ly/eventcoverage/ptphi11/featureDraftingGreen

Sadin did a writeup of this draft, which basically sums up the state of Green in M12 drafting. That entire draft was bizarre, it was obvious nobody intended to be in it but then overadjusted to signals.

Yeah, that draft is a great example of what happens when people aren't firm enough about staying in their colors. Obviously reading signals is important, but you have to be careful not to go too far, especially given that green is a rather shallow color.
 
Cyrillus said:
Amazing...I need all the pics in that article in high res.
Its fascinating how they talk about deliberately keeping the majority of the perspective in Innistrad art at human eye level so as to create a more grounded feeling.
 
Kurtofan said:
What does that mean?

Good in Limited, Bad In Constructed.

Honestly just feels 1 mana too overcosted for what it does. Nice EDH card though just like 26zombies. The latter being insanely awesome with Graveborn Muse on the field.
 
darkside31337 said:
Good in Limited, Bad In Constructed.

Honestly just feels 1 mana too overcosted for what it does. Nice EDH card though just like 26zombies. The latter being insanely awesome with Graveborn Muse on the field.
Oh man, can you imagine if 26Z was a Tribal - Zombie card? The interaction with the Free Zombies enchantment would be awesome.
 
So the tribe thing is throughout the whole Innistrad arc right? Will that make it not mesh well with the scars set then? I've never played standard before these past two sets so I'm curious if things that seem pretty different usually wind up meshing well together. All these seem to mesh really well with the core set so far but I'm curious about scars.
 
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
So the tribe thing is throughout the whole Innistrad arc right? Will that make it not mesh well with the scars set then? I've never played standard before these past two sets so I'm curious if things that seem pretty different usually wind up meshing well together. All these seem to mesh really well with the core set so far but I'm curious about scars.

Well. Scars has some nasty zombies. Phyrexian crusader might be "just an infect" card, but honestly, he comes for 3 mana, has double protection, first strike, and is a Zombie :) I can see myself trying to build something around it. Also, Artifact cards will be present here as well, so I guess metalcraft still worths something.

Or I hope so, cause I am sitting on 2 Mox Opals :P
 
V_Arnold said:
Well. Scars has some nasty zombies. Phyrexian crusader might be "just an infect" card, but honestly, he comes for 3 mana, has double protection, first strike, and is a Zombie :) I can see myself trying to build something around it. Also, Artifact cards will be present here as well, so I guess metalcraft still worths something.

Or I hope so, cause I am sitting on 2 Mox Opals :P

Ya, hand of praetors is a zombie too. I never realized they were zombie cards until I played a zombie deck and had the card that each player sacs a non-zombie card during their upkeep and my guys were safe. :lol It just seems so heavily based on tribes and few of those tribes were printed in scars to mesh well but obviously I can be wrong once we see more cards. I'm just curious if from the release where they looked pretty different in the end they mesh pretty well usually.
 
Well Scars block did have a minor sacrifice subtheme that will play nicely with Inn's graveyard mechanics and Morbid. A quick Gatherer search reveals fifty cards between the three sets that either are creatures you sacrifice, cards that ask sacrifice as a cost, or care about sacrifice. (Not counting the shrines and cards like Obliterator)
 
Cyrillus said:
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What a large boner she has...[/QUOTE]
...fuck

Also some people are criticizing the art on the Dragon, but I think its alright. It puts me in mind of Malefecent.
 
So to get all these werewolves to transform you basically need to limit either your turn or opponents to just placing a land and activated abilities of cards already in play?

Seems more likely gonna have to rely on transform spells like the Moonmist one...
 
evilpigking said:
So to get all these werewolves to transform you basically need to limit either your turn or opponents to just placing a land and activated abilities of cards already in play?

Seems more likely gonna have to rely on transform spells like the Moonmist one...
We'll see how it plays out. I'm sure they tuned the number of spells per turn in both directions to a value they found reasonable.
 
Sorry for noob questions, the current deck builders kit is out of date right?
One of the local stores is doing a Magic beginners day on Saturday which is perfect timing and giving away a t-shirt if you buy a deck builders box, but I obviously don't want out of date stuff when the t-shirt is probably cringe worthy anyway.
The event seems to be focused for newcomers and they are doing a booster + 3 of each land tourney so should be fun.
 
f0rk said:
Sorry for noob questions, the current deck builders kit is out of date right?
One of the local stores is doing a Magic beginners day on Saturday which is perfect timing and giving away a t-shirt if you buy a deck builders box, but I obviously don't want out of date stuff when the t-shirt is probably cringe worthy anyway.
The event seems to be focused for newcomers and they are doing a booster + 3 of each land tourney so should be fun.

Pretty sure it has Magic 11 in it. It's not a horrible investment if you're just starting out honestly. If you're already interested then you'll end up using the cards in that box at some point for something. Unless you're looking to play in a strict up-to-date environment you have no reason to not go for it and have some fun.
 
Played a booster draft at Dragon Con after having not played Magic in almost 6 years. Lost first one but took the next two. Got two free booster packs! feelsgoodman.jpg

Also got a Grave Titan in one of the packs
 
As disappointed as I might be with the card design of the set thus far, there's no denying that the flavor is spot on. Not only is its grounded vision welcome after the "out there" flavor of the past three blocks, the art is positively amazing as well. Kudos to the team behind it.
 
Quick impressions:

Holy shit at Skaab Ruinator.
Essence of the Wild is looking for combo.
Morkrut Banshee, not bad, hard to judge for constructed.
Into Maw of Hell, don't see a use for this.
Grimgrin, nice name, synergy with all the zombie tokens maybe? Still feels a bit weak.
 
Oh wow...I didn't notice at first that Essence of the Wild copies are redundant. Get rid of the original and all the copies are just as good.
 
Cyrillus said:
feature159_olivia.jp

What a large boner she has...

Ahahahaha Oh my god, I can't unsee it now.

The_Technomancer said:
Oh wow...I didn't notice at first that Essence of the Wild copies are redundant. Get rid of the original and all the copies are just as good.

I was just explaining that to my roomate this morning. I was all like, OH MY GOD it's like a fucking disease of AWESOME!


Totakeke said:
Quick impressions:

Holy shit at Skaab Ruinator.
Essence of the Wild is looking for combo.
Morkrut Banshee, not bad, hard to judge for constructed.
Into Maw of Hell, don't see a use for this.
Grimgrin, nice name, synergy with all the zombie tokens maybe? Still feels a bit weak.


Skaab is pretty damn awesome. A little too overcosted for dredge sadly, but will do great in a graveyard block.

Essence cracks me up. Hard to implement but if you can untap with it or have token generation its going to get out of hand very quickly unless someone can DoJ.

Banshee is pretty cool, probably won't make extended. Still, another toy for MBC. Kinda wish it had flying for that cost. Limited bomb though.

Into the Maw would be awesome at 5 for limited. At 6, its pushing it a bit. Reminds me of Shivan Meteor but again, that cost 5 and even had suspend. 6 costs too much for that effect. I really want to see what other removal is in this set.

Grimgrin requires creatures on both sides for it to be effective. It combos nicely with Reassembling Skeleton. I dunno if I'd play it in my zombie deck though.
 
Starting a new post because want to discuss a new format in MtGO and want your guys' opinions.

There's going to be a new format called Phantom in MtGO. You can read about it here. Basically you pay a lower cost in tickets to draft with a set, but you don't get to keep the cards you draft with.

For instance, you pay a total of 2 tickets, and get to draft triple M12 and if you win you get to keep 2 boosters, 1 for 2nd place. Drafting swiss. You don't get to keep the cards you draft.

On one hand, for 2 bucks (less if you're savvy) you can potentially get 2 boosters. Even winning one booster will get you ahead. On the other hand, imagine tearing open foil titans and then they get sent to the digital shredder in the sky.

What are your thoughts on this?



As for mine, I could see how it will let you practice drafting to your hearts content. Many people dislike the raredraft scenario. With knowing nobody can keep the cards, drafting rares usually doesn't happen unless they're bombs. Allowing for better signaling and such.

I'd like to see this further honestly. Like say, what if they did a pre-constructed "constructed" tournament with top 8 decks from a previous pro tour. It will allow people to playtest those decks for very little investment.
 
I'm not a fan of that. I can see it being useful for burning some tickets if you dont care, but being able to use my pool and winnings to pay for the next draft is huge for me.
 
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