Yup. Sure have. They're pretty good too.
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Yup. Sure have. They're pretty good too.
narcosis219
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Yup, just be careful if you play standard; a lot of the rares and lands they give you are from Scars block, so they'll be non standard legal in 2 months.
riskVSreward
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My local shop is having a std tourney where 1st gets a play set of foil snapcasters... this is a serious catch 22.
There are still *many* magic players who panic at the sight of a planeswalker and will waste turns/resources to remove them, even minimal impact ones like neo lily.
narcosis219
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it would be a catch 22 if JTMS was still legal and you would win a JTMS playset. You can win without snaps
She's not minimal impact due to the +CA though. She's very good, but she doesn't have enough immediate board presence for current T2.
riskVSreward
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Of course, but I can't imagine more than 2 or 3 people enter who don't already have a playset.
narcosis219
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Yeah, I wouldn't mind having a foil playset to trade for... anything I wanted lol.
But it would be pretty sick to put a foil playset into my deck instead of just the regular.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Apparently, nobody actually wants Bonfires.
Owlowiscious
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I want bonfires 
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Thanks guys! I picked up the last Green and White one the store had left!
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
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As in, I have them, I'm not using them, but nobody wants them. So, I'll probably just sell them at the store that gives me 75 percent value and call it even.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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What are you looking for good sir?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Well, to a non Pats fan, I'll willing to trade down for somebody who will PLAY with them and not just sell them off.
For Patriots fans like yourself, one billion dollars. Cash money.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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I'm a pats fan? Are you on freaking crack!?!?!?!?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
STATE YOUR ALLEGIANCE THEN
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
JAGUARS
Everyone asks me how the panthers are doing when I wear my jacket for the jaguars though. :'(WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
JAGUARS
Oh. Oh. You poor bastard.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Oh. Oh. You poor bastard.
Shut up! Most people don't even seem to know they exist. "Oh, you mean the panthers? They have a pretty good QB now!" "No...... I mean the jaguars...."
Edit: I still even have my David Garrard jersey.
Edit 2: I also have to plug this as the greatest football book ever, my grandma bought me it for my birthday when I was younger. Who wouldn't love a book called from jags to riches!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0312171234/?tag=neogaf0e-20
divisionbyzorro
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Bonfire is sadly one of those cards that doesn't get the MTGO discount
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Bonfire is sadly one of those cards that doesn't get the MTGO discount
I think it's actually MORE money on MTGO isn't it? I thought it was when I looked it up on MTGO traders which absolutely blew my mind.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
If there are any FGC people around now, sp00ky is streaming some draft:
twitch.tv/teamsp00ky
( For non FGC followers: sp00ky is one of our main streamers. Really awesome fun guy, but not the best at magic)
ALL LIES
BlewHedgehog
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Made yet another big life mistake this week in deciding to buy a complete set of Mirage plus play set of commons to build drafts out of. That set is my baby, so it's an investment, I figure. At worst, I can sell the Lion's Eye Diamond someday to recoup some losses. For half of the set's value, it sure will be a blank in draft. Hopefully I can scrounge up 7 suckers who are will to try it with me occasionally.
For anyone who owns a cube or plays it a lot, how many basics do you have prepared? Can't have non-Mirage lands disrupting the purity of it.
For anyone who owns a cube or plays it a lot, how many basics do you have prepared? Can't have non-Mirage lands disrupting the purity of it.
I drafted a Talrand with a Talrands Invocation, three mind sculpts, three jaces phantasms, a bunch of counterspells, and 3 captains calls. Oh and two augur of bolas's. I thought it was going to be a great draft.
LITTLE DID I KNOW
My first opponent was a blue/green talrand deck also. Our third game went to turn 20, ending with me on 8 islands and a hand of my 3 captains calls, an oblivion ring, and a couple combat tricks.
Damn you, land.
LITTLE DID I KNOW
My first opponent was a blue/green talrand deck also. Our third game went to turn 20, ending with me on 8 islands and a hand of my 3 captains calls, an oblivion ring, and a couple combat tricks.
Damn you, land.
divisionbyzorro
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Someone told me not to play control in this standard. They were right. It just doesn't viable at a competitive level.
After some early success with my deck online with my deck yesterday (1-1 against Naya, 0-1 against RUG Ramp, 1-0 against Boros Humans), I've been repeatedly stomped in every match except one I played today (0-3 against Zombies, 0-1 against Tokens, 1-1 against Delver, 0-1 against infect).
I'm going to sit on the deck for a while and revisit it when we see what Ravnica brings, but I feel like I'm just wasting my tickets by playing it in tournament matches. I think the deck is actually fairly solid, all things considered, but the format right now is just too fast (which I suppose explains why control decks haven't done anything notable in a while - Hayne's Pro Tour run notwithstanding).
Time to explore some other options. Any suggestions?
After some early success with my deck online with my deck yesterday (1-1 against Naya, 0-1 against RUG Ramp, 1-0 against Boros Humans), I've been repeatedly stomped in every match except one I played today (0-3 against Zombies, 0-1 against Tokens, 1-1 against Delver, 0-1 against infect).
I'm going to sit on the deck for a while and revisit it when we see what Ravnica brings, but I feel like I'm just wasting my tickets by playing it in tournament matches. I think the deck is actually fairly solid, all things considered, but the format right now is just too fast (which I suppose explains why control decks haven't done anything notable in a while - Hayne's Pro Tour run notwithstanding).
Time to explore some other options. Any suggestions?
Owlowiscious
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main deck 4x grafdigger's cage, 4x gut shot, and 4x mental mistep.
divisionbyzorro
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An alternate theory a friend of mine from my old playgroup posited was that I was naturally going to see a more aggressive slice of the standard metagame if I was sticking to the 2-man queues. The idea was that the players grinding those 2-man queues are looking for fast matches with fast outcomes, so they're naturally going to play faster decks. He suggested that I should try some 8-man or dailies before writing the deck off as unplayable. I can't say if he's right or not, as I haven't really spent much time in constructed tournaments on MTGO before, but it seems reasonable. Any thoughts?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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All the cards I needed for my U/G infect came today except for the rancors. -_-
Jesus they just teased a little of the Commander's Arsenal kit coming out this year.
75 dollars MSRP for 18 foil cards, 10 foil oversized cards, 120 janky Ultra Pro sleeves, a bunch of +1 or -1 coin counters and a new life counter doesn't sit well with me.
But damn does that Sylvan Library look sexy.
75 dollars MSRP for 18 foil cards, 10 foil oversized cards, 120 janky Ultra Pro sleeves, a bunch of +1 or -1 coin counters and a new life counter doesn't sit well with me.
But damn does that Sylvan Library look sexy.
The Technomancer
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Yeah I did a double take at the price.
I have no idea how they justify that price.
10 oversized foils.... The commander ones are rotting for 0.50 each at my LGS, and have survived multiple 50% off sales. Probably 40 of each sitting there. They're never going anywhere.
These -might- fetch a dollar each if this product ends up rotting on shelves, but if the singles are worth anything, they're all just going to rot at 0.50 each like the commander ones.
Basically, nobody fucking wants oversized foils. I am the only person I know who has ever used one in a game of EDH.
New life counter looks really cheaply made; the plastic doesn't even appear to be sitting right in the product picture. Maybe a $2 trinket.
Ultrapro sleeves are $1.50-$2 for a pack of 50. $5 is generous for those (protip: they suck).
The pokemon-looking damage counters are absolutely worthless.
So, the "goodies" are worth maybe $12, leaving this as a $63 From the Vault product with no spindown.
What the fuck Wizards.
The only way I'll purchase this is if they throw Imperial Recruiter in it.
The deck I T8'd with is insane (BBD Township NayaPod.) It blows up other creature decks.
Even if they had put a $35 MSRP, it would have blown up in price like a FTV set. FTV, though, is designed as a giveaway for local stores. This is not.
FTV sets are also in extremely limited quantities; this is a replacement for Premium Deck Series. It's going to be a single printing, but nowhere near as limited as a FTV.
Not to mention that FTV: Legends was 45-50 aftermarket, and 75 is what realms is preordering for - the most expensive one in a while.
Also consider - it's extremely likely that 5 of the 18 cards are the wedge generals from the commander decks.... Which, with the exception of Kalia, are dollar mythics. And if this is released in any significant quantity, that foil command tower won't be expensive either.
$50 would've been a reasonable price for this. I think Wizards is assigning absurd values to the extras contained in here... And even if they aren't and this product contains real value (wasteland, life from the loam, recruiter, force of will, mana crypt etc), I'm not entirely sure how comfortable I am with WOTC blatantly moving in on the singles market like that. FTV is limited, severely underpriced, and doesn't significantly alter market prices of the cards contained; it's a great way to reprint modern/commander staples without severely upsetting LGSs or collectors.
FTV is a brilliant product in that respect -- it's a purchase of reprinted cards directly from Wizards, something that would normally infuriate store owners, printed in extremely limited quantities with the obvious intent for the LGS owner to charge far over MSRP for.
This product is -significantly- more expensive for stores to purchase, in higher quantities, and, if it contains legacy staples in addition to the EDH reprints, is going to severely impact the value of cards.
It's pretty much a middle finger to store owners.
The Sylvan Library is at least $20-30 on its own. You underestimate just how much the top 1% of the casual/Legacy set is willing to dump into the game.
I want a Sylvan Library, but not $75 badly. If the other cards are Sylvan Library-esque in usefulness/value, I would consider it. It seems like at least 5 of the slots will be taken up by foil versions of the precon commanders, though.
That life counter looks sexy, though. Seeing as the oversized cards are probably going to be worth a pittance, if any of the commanders I'm using get printed oversize, I might get them for the cool factor. And my promo Vish Kal can make some new oversize friends
ultron: It's a Commander product. I doubt they'll include cards that are staples outside of Commander - I think they want it to be bought mostly by Commander players, not Modern or Legacy players.
I'm currently throwing together a non-proxied Commander deck as I now have a reasonable number of cards. Where did my Sol Ring go?
EDIT: Oh yeah, I temporarily replaced it with my brother's Soul of the Harvest. This has the unfortunate side-effect of him currently having my Sol Ring - I'll have to wait until he gets back from his holiday.
That life counter looks sexy, though. Seeing as the oversized cards are probably going to be worth a pittance, if any of the commanders I'm using get printed oversize, I might get them for the cool factor. And my promo Vish Kal can make some new oversize friends
ultron: It's a Commander product. I doubt they'll include cards that are staples outside of Commander - I think they want it to be bought mostly by Commander players, not Modern or Legacy players.
I'm currently throwing together a non-proxied Commander deck as I now have a reasonable number of cards. Where did my Sol Ring go?
EDIT: Oh yeah, I temporarily replaced it with my brother's Soul of the Harvest. This has the unfortunate side-effect of him currently having my Sol Ring - I'll have to wait until he gets back from his holiday.
No, it isn't. The casual/Legacy set would much rather have the original Antiquities old-frame nonbending nonfoil printing, which is only around $30. This library is gorgeous, but nobody is going to consider it as desirable as the original printing. $10-15, slightly higher than the $8 white bordered printings, is far more likely.
There is no other foil printing.
Keru_Shiri
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Not gonna lie, a lot of my excitement for the Commander Toolkit deflated at seeing the $75 price tag. I'm guessing there's going to be at least a few P3K stuff to justify the price, but not for me. Plus the extra doo-dads aren't really worth it. I like oversized cards since they make for sweet mini-posters, but not enough to justify the price.
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