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Just ran the all crap rare draft at my LGS.
Real life draft experience be damned, I got to draft laboratory maniac cobo.
divisionbyzorro
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Seance + Mirror-Mad Phantasm + Lab Maniac
One of these days I'm going to put this crappy deck together.
https://twitter.com/HeleneBergeot/status/269201184957534208
Modern can now be used for FNM as of January. Awesome news if you've got a place around that will do it.
Modern can now be used for FNM as of January. Awesome news if you've got a place around that will do it.
That's cool, my LGS runs an afternoon and evening FNM that swap between draft and standard so modern is definitely something that could fit in there.
FieryBalrog
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Pretty sure playing against the White, Blue and Red ones would be considered cruel and unusual punishment in some states.
I'm not fond of the white one either, but I couldn't think of an significant effect that was really white. I looked to Balance for inspiration.
The new delver for the next year.
Get used to him folks, you're going to be seeing a *lot* of this mofo.
divisionbyzorro
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Gatecrash spoilers?
Domri Rade 1GR
Planeswalker (3)
+1: Look at the top card of your library. If it's a creature card, you may reveal it and put it into your hand.
-2: Target creature you control fights another target creature.
-7: You get an emblem with "Creatures you control have double strike, trample, hexproof and haste."
Enter the Infinite 8UUUU
Sorcery
Draw cards equal to the number of cards in your library, then put a card from your hand on top of your library. You have no maximum hand size until your next turn.
More here: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=464272
Domri Rade 1GR
Planeswalker (3)
+1: Look at the top card of your library. If it's a creature card, you may reveal it and put it into your hand.
-2: Target creature you control fights another target creature.
-7: You get an emblem with "Creatures you control have double strike, trample, hexproof and haste."
Enter the Infinite 8UUUU
Sorcery
Draw cards equal to the number of cards in your library, then put a card from your hand on top of your library. You have no maximum hand size until your next turn.
More here: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=464272
Oh boy, another toy for Jund.
Still, I like that WOTC's making good use of the "fight" mechanic to give green mages some creature destruction. The first ability is decent enough I guess, it would work well with fetchlands.
Aurelia: Bit too expensive for those colors no? I doubt a typical Boros deck would want to reach 6 mana frequently. Maybe better for Naya midrange instead.
Helkite Tyrant: Dat flavor.
Borborygmos: I like, although I'm not sure what kind of deck he belongs in. Maybe some kind of ramp. Being able to get mileage out of late game land draws is ace.
Still, I like that WOTC's making good use of the "fight" mechanic to give green mages some creature destruction. The first ability is decent enough I guess, it would work well with fetchlands.
Aurelia: Bit too expensive for those colors no? I doubt a typical Boros deck would want to reach 6 mana frequently. Maybe better for Naya midrange instead.
Helkite Tyrant: Dat flavor.
Borborygmos: I like, although I'm not sure what kind of deck he belongs in. Maybe some kind of ramp. Being able to get mileage out of late game land draws is ace.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Glad to see they aren't shying away from high mana cost, big body guild leaders on some of them.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
God. I feel it in my bones. I need to open packs.
I NEED IT.
I NEED IT.
Thought you wrote "BUUUU" and figured a UB Lab Maniac deck was finally within my reach. When I saw it was eight, my dreams were crushed.
Standard is miserable right now. Desperately needs GC/DM to flesh things out.
Pre-holiday weekend, alot of people are occupied.
Standard is better now than it has been in many years.
I am looking forward to GC alot, but standard is more open than it has really been.
Thragtusk is nothing compared to how Phantasmal Image and Vapor Snag or Jace and Caw Blade had the format by the balls.
There is more variety and options in standard than in a very long time.
only good thing is the boros card shows that Boros is maybe going to be Aggressive, which means my Red White hummies might get some new toys
I think standard's main problem is that it's a lot more expensive to be able to play a competitive deck
making the best removal cards in RTR rare was a horrid idea. Also, generally I don't think people like Thragtusk right now.
Hopefully gatecrash will add in a lot more removal that's a lot better then what we have. The G?R plainswalker may also help quite a lot
Standard is always expensive. Playing competitive decks in Magic is always expensive. Just because they printed removal at rare doesn't make standard worse. From a budget perspective standard is actually not too bad because RDW is better than it has been for a while which is a budget staple.
Like Hex said, standard is in a pretty good place right now although I hope Gatecrash brings a couple of cards that make Thragtusk less popular. It epitomizes how Wizards have gone too far the other way in making creatures better than spells imo.
im not talking about uber level competitive standard where everybody already has the ebst cards
most people play FNM standard, and if those removal cards, like dreadbore, for instance cost 8 dollars, compared to previous sets where a card like doom blade would cost like 10 cents, then yes, that puts a huge damper on standard.
If the casual competitive players aren't able to play standard well, then they sure as hell won't go to the events
www.twitch.tv/ggslive
The standard GP going on right now just illustrates how gross standard is right now. Every match is going to time, draws everywhere. It's just grindy control with tons of lifegain vs other grindy control with tons of lifegain.
The standard GP going on right now just illustrates how gross standard is right now. Every match is going to time, draws everywhere. It's just grindy control with tons of lifegain vs other grindy control with tons of lifegain.
I have seen one draw so far on SCG here.
http://www.starcitygames.com/scglive/files/20121117164124000000.html
Seriously, is it so bad that games are not over in the first four turns?
I am loving the fact that midrange is the format these days because it lets people be more creative instead of "oh no it has 4 cc, too high can not play it!".
I don't mind long control vs control matches as long as both players are good players. I'd never watch an SCG match like that for example, but that Owen Turtenwald vs Carlos Pal (?) match was awesome, as it was clear that both players knew how to play well- the only mistake I noticed was in game 1 when Carlos Dissapated a Negate instead of a Sphinx's Revalation. He made a similar play later in the match (dissapate on Negate instead of Jace), but in that case it was the smarter play- It meant Owen couldn't rebuy the Negate with Elixer and Snapcaster Mage.
The long matches are also good for video coverage- they don't have much time between games to bore us with dumb videos and commentary
And Standard has always been expensive, but it is telling that you can go to TCGplayer and see that the median price of these multicolor standard decks is HIGHER than any deck in Modern, save Jund (Tarmagoyf tax).
This Re-animator played on SCG is a terrible player, I definitely think that this is not his deck because he is making some stupid calls.
"Hey I can cast Sigarda and own face, hey I can cast Angel of Serenity but no I have to re-animate them I can not hard cast them or the streams might cross!"
I hope he loses.
Edit: OMFG what a terrible player.
"Hey I can cast Sigarda and own face, hey I can cast Angel of Serenity but no I have to re-animate them I can not hard cast them or the streams might cross!"
I hope he loses.
Edit: OMFG what a terrible player.
NorrenRadd
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I really like the Arsenal Life Counter, but I'm not going to splurge $160 for the entire package on eBay.
Should I buy just the counter on eBay for ~$25 or do you think WotC will release the counters as a product in the near future?
Should I buy just the counter on eBay for ~$25 or do you think WotC will release the counters as a product in the near future?
They have the molds now, it would be stupid for them not to.
Would be great to see them swapped into Fatpacks or at worst duel decks.
NorrenRadd
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NorrenRadd
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Yeah I think this is what will happen. ETA on those is next fall? ~ 9 months or so?
Summer, Replacing the Casual release block (Archenemy/Planechase) release is my guess, with winter being the new time for the Casual release. Thats my read on it anyway- gets commander out the same time that Modern Masters and M14 are out, and the big 15th Anniversary is in full swing
divisionbyzorro
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Standard still doesn't feel like its been solved or even close to solved. Everyone is just jamming value cards in some guild, shard, or wedge together and calling it a deck. There's nothing interesting happening.
This too, Standards got nothing that's really "cool" or looks good. Maybe once Gatecrash comes out we'll see something awesome be put out, but no one's really figured out that dominant deck yet. Once that first great deck happens, we'll see the meta progress as people will have to up their game to compete.
Modern has been a lot cooler and there's been a lot more progress on the meta, which shows why it's so popular recently
M13 Garruk dominates control mirrors all on his own. If he doesn't get answered by Detention Sphere you get so much advantage with the 3/3s.
And when something 'cool' happens you guys just complains it's too good like Delver lol. Modern wasn't really that cool it was only played because it was in the PT, Player's Championship and an American GP all in a row. And because of that the top players haven't put that much into standard.
Ali's control deck is well positioned against Bant, he's ramping to cards that have so much more of an impact than the opponents durdley win cons and lifegain.
Now I've been watching this stream for a bit I have no idea what you guys are talking about, there are some sweet decks going around. Kibler is playing G/W with Triumph of Ferocity. The meta is on the slower side but there's nothing wrong with that.
And when something 'cool' happens you guys just complains it's too good like Delver lol. Modern wasn't really that cool it was only played because it was in the PT, Player's Championship and an American GP all in a row. And because of that the top players haven't put that much into standard.
Ali's control deck is well positioned against Bant, he's ramping to cards that have so much more of an impact than the opponents durdley win cons and lifegain.
Now I've been watching this stream for a bit I have no idea what you guys are talking about, there are some sweet decks going around. Kibler is playing G/W with Triumph of Ferocity. The meta is on the slower side but there's nothing wrong with that.
Agreed.
So, I'm at the GP, and the big reason attendance is lower is due to the timing (it's immediately following 2 major northern market GPs in Philly/Chicago) its location...and the timing. (right before thanksgiving.)
I'm out though- lost a match to manascrew and to the bad matchup i just figured out how to SB against (U/W flash.)
I'm out though- lost a match to manascrew and to the bad matchup i just figured out how to SB against (U/W flash.)
What are you playing?
divisionbyzorro
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What do you think about UW Flash as a deck? Is it actually good, or is it just good at preying on a particular slice of the metagame?
I think that it is ok, but I think it is not as good as all of the SCG monkeys keep trying to shove it down everyone's throats to be.
It preys on certain meta but even then it has to have keep a certain flow right from the first draw or it has a long road.
divisionbyzorro
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I've been playing it a fair bit online lately, since I had all the cards for it already. My fundamental problem with the deck is that it has a lot of bad draws (where you cantrip into cantrips and never draw action) and doesn't have any real nut draws.
There are also too many decks it feels like it can't beat. Pilgrim -> Smiter simply wrecks it.
Needs ponder or preordain but I don't necessary think it's a bad deck. Revelation makes the deck a whole lot better in the long game, augur of bolas helps stall ground along with verdict and countermagic is great against thraggy. It's a pretty decent rounded deck IMO, especially in a slower metagame but I don't think preying would be the correct term. I just see preying as a silver bullet to thragtusk decks which I think UW is more than that.
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