Remembrance
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Memes would be shockingly more topical than any Unset has ever been.
Expect the usual non-topical humor, like untranslatable Jace puns and how some vegetables have funny names.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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Memes would be shockingly more topical than any Unset has ever been.
Expect the usual non-topical humor, like untranslatable Jace puns and how some vegetables have funny names.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Nevermind, top 8 is standard. Just a fuck up.
ugh thats lame as hell. was looking forward to a top 8 draft
Thing in the Ice, Arlinn, and Duskwatch Recruiter are all good ones from SOI. I would laugh hard if we saw Ulrich. We're probably going to get a few flavour cards that aren't really playable, such as Elusive Tormentor and Startled Awake.
Wow talk about uninspired.And here's the planeswalker deck version of Bolas:
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Planeswalker Deck
Arlin and Thing I could see. Duskwatch is an uncommon though, would be pretty feel bad IMO...
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
titi, daybreak ranger (lol), duskwatch recruiter that's all I got
Duskwatch recruiter sees more play than Alrinn ever will. And Delver is a common
Delver is a common and it will definitely be there
My guess: Delver, 5 flip walkers, Huntmaster, Avacyn, Westvale Abbey, Elbrus, Garruk, Mayor of Avabruck, Thing in the Ice, Brisela halves.
Might be too much value for them though.
Guys.
I know Delver is a common. I own a million of them.
But it's iconic. Duskwatch is not, plus it's SUPER recent.
If you're spending $50 - $80 on a special foil box set, the last thing you want is a bunch of uncommons and commons, even if they're more playable.
Delver is a given, I think. That's a common. If they include Duskwatch, which is possible, that's pretty much about as low as I would think they'd dip rarity wise.
Poor Arlin.
Tolaria West -- niche card with value as it hasn't been reprinted in a while
Cabal Ritual -- Iconic card
Serra Angel -- Iconic, and also didn't it used to be rare way back when?
Firespout -- Sideboard card that has value, hadn't been reprinted in a while
Beseech -- I don't even know it haha
Just saying, if they're already stretching into cards that JUST went out of print for a set called From The Vault, maybe that's a bad sign about your theme.
I know Delver is a common. I own a million of them.
But it's iconic. Duskwatch is not, plus it's SUPER recent.
If you're spending $50 - $80 on a special foil box set, the last thing you want is a bunch of uncommons and commons, even if they're more playable.
Delver is a given, I think. That's a common. If they include Duskwatch, which is possible, that's pretty much about as low as I would think they'd dip rarity wise.
Poor Arlin.
Right but not without reason
Tolaria West -- niche card with value as it hasn't been reprinted in a while
Cabal Ritual -- Iconic card
Serra Angel -- Iconic, and also didn't it used to be rare way back when?
Firespout -- Sideboard card that has value, hadn't been reprinted in a while
Beseech -- I don't even know it haha
Just saying, if they're already stretching into cards that JUST went out of print for a set called From The Vault, maybe that's a bad sign about your theme.
They print commons and uncommons in these all the time. Beseech the Queen and Tolaria West were uncommon, and Cabal Ritual was common. Serra Angel was uncommon. Firespout and Virtue's Ruin were uncommon.
That doesn't make it okay.
charlequin
Banned
Okay, so some thoughts.
- It makes a certain amount of sense with a "New World" angle, but combining dinosaurs and pirates is an interesting way to address those two particular long-time requests. I wouldn't have really pegged Vraska as a pirate but I can see how it works, I guess.
- I am exceedingly pleased that they went with proper feathered dinosaurs here.
- We can now see exactly how the mechanics swiped from Ixalan fit: the Monarch mechanic probably represented control of their El Dorado city, and vehicles were probably ships.
- It seems like whatever setting angle I take it upon myself to do a fan design for winds up being printed right afterwards, so let me know now what you want to see come out in 2019.
- Interesting that they're doing a multiplayer variant tied so closely to a setting. Curious how that winds up working out.
- 25th Masters is along the lines of what I was suggesting with a reprint product, and it could be pretty fun -- and provide shots to reprint a few things that are tough to do elsewhere. I'm much more concerned about Iconic Masters, which I don't see a way to actually make worth $10.
- FTV: Transform, aka here's a foil baby Jace and Delver plus some other junk.
- I assume there'll be some element of creative theming to Core 2019, I kind of wanted them to tease this out a little bit more.
- Dominaria is exactly what we've been saying for years now, but actually better. Getting Garfield for this is kind of a coup. The last two sets Richard Garfield worked on are the legit all-time best, so I've got high hopes here.
- An Un-set... well, it's not how I would've done it. This must be Maro's anniversary gift from the company, lol. For everyone this sort of thing annoys it'll get it out of their system.
- Really thought we'd see the back half of the year stuff still -- curious if anything else is 25th Anniversary themed beyond what we see here.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Have you ever looked at any of the other ones
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Duskwatch is gonna become iconic eventually he's already right behind Delver below rare DFCs. It was a major player in standard, is about to be a major player in modern and an all star in EDH.
Yess no more lizards.
Pretty sure they'll still be Lizards. Creature - Lizard Beast Dinosaur.
Anyway, here's my (very optimistic) guess for the FTV:
Archangel Avacyn
Bruna, the Fading Light
Gisela, the Broken Blade
Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
Delver of Secrets
Thing in the Ice
Elusive Tormentor
Bloodline Keeper
Geier Reach Bandit
Garruk Relentless
Duskwatch Recruiter
Mayor of Avabruck
Huntmaster of the Fells
Elbrus, the Binding Blade
Westvale Abbey
I think realistically that's probably too much value. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jace and/or Avacyn get left out.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Planeswalker decks aren't Duel Decks.
Elspeth, knight-errant and Sun's Champion were both in Duel Decks.
Vangu Vegro
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Yess no more lizards.
Will Birds get errata too? 'Cause they should.
SigmasonicX
Member
The Ixalan description mentions mounting dinosaurs, so perhaps crew, which we know was stolen from Ixalan, originally represented that. Monarch, also originally from there, probably represented taking control of the map to the city, since the city itself isn't mentioned as being reached until the second set.
Another reason their product announcements are mystifying to me.
Even without memes I still don't get the appeal of MTG in-jokes and puns as a draft-able set/designed product. I know people say it can be fun to play with some friends...but how does that actually work when the cards don't actually make any sense?
I don't like it, so no one should have it!!!!
What are the chances they mix in some other black-bordered cards (even aside from a new set of full art un-lands) to entice a wider audience to buy sealed product/ What kind of stuff could they add?
Infinite Stars
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The flavor of Monarch(IE Draw a card during endstep) fits the idea of controlling a map more then randomly being the Monarch.
I'd like to throw my hat into the ring for UnSet3's Basic Lands and suggest that they will be No Art Lands, with full text.
They doubled down on Iconic Masters being more about the iconic creature types but what about the spells? I neeeeeeeed more info.
Also I think they say in the video that Masters 25 will have a card from each set. Interesting! Was it 7th that did that before, maybe 8th Edition?
Also I think they say in the video that Masters 25 will have a card from each set. Interesting! Was it 7th that did that before, maybe 8th Edition?
charlequin
Banned
I don't know how they sell this set in general now that everyone is up to their assbones in full-art lands.
Yes and yes.
Wait, which?
I mean Maro's whole pitch has literally been that it doesn't have to sell because if they print it the way they print other supplementals nowadays it can sell out a small run and be profitable, lol. (By which I mean: yes.)
Of course it won't. Nobody wants it, but Maro has probably been bitching about it for a decade and they finally gave in. Basic lands are literally the only selling point for this, they better look amazing.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Heck I've been reverting my decks to regular frame lands.
charlequin
Banned
Oh, also: tough break for kirblar because there gonna be hella vehicles in Ixalan.
Really really unclear how this set is gonna work, lol. The Reserved List is more visibly a restriction on their product design with every passing year.
It was 8th Edition, and it was a pretty crappy promotion ultimately since their choices had to be mediated by the ultra-restrictive core set reprint rules. This has a lot more opportunity to be spicy, and especially to reprint some stuff from early sets that isn't super tournament-relevant but does have some cachet and value.
These sets hit a niche audience, but it's really just not true that nobody wants it. There's plenty of other stuff that sells to similar sized niches that people just don't care enough to be mad about.
Really really unclear how this set is gonna work, lol. The Reserved List is more visibly a restriction on their product design with every passing year.
It was 8th Edition, and it was a pretty crappy promotion ultimately since their choices had to be mediated by the ultra-restrictive core set reprint rules. This has a lot more opportunity to be spicy, and especially to reprint some stuff from early sets that isn't super tournament-relevant but does have some cachet and value.
These sets hit a niche audience, but it's really just not true that nobody wants it. There's plenty of other stuff that sells to similar sized niches that people just don't care enough to be mad about.
Do we have any data to support that Planechase, Archenemy and Conspiracy sold well?
charlequin
Banned
Another weird thing I noticed: 25th Masters has the 3-character code "M25" but Core 19 is continuing the old numbering as "M19." So... what are they gonna do about that?
We can independently verify that Conspiracy 1 sold well as it went through several consecutive batches of printing. In general we can be fairly certain that Planechase and Conspiracy did well but Archenemy less so. The Un-set probably sells at least to an audience as big as Archenemy.
We can independently verify that Conspiracy 1 sold well as it went through several consecutive batches of printing. In general we can be fairly certain that Planechase and Conspiracy did well but Archenemy less so. The Un-set probably sells at least to an audience as big as Archenemy.
Remembrance
Member
Let's just get all this out of the way:
Flip basic lands (between day/night versions).
Fuse basic lands (make your own duals).
Aftermath basic lands?
I still remember the day when they revealed Dwarven Demolition Team as Alpha's never-before-reprinted contribution to 8th Edition.
Flip basic lands (between day/night versions).
Fuse basic lands (make your own duals).
Aftermath basic lands?
I still remember the day when they revealed Dwarven Demolition Team as Alpha's never-before-reprinted contribution to 8th Edition.
Wait, hold on, I'm out of the loop, did they announce Un3?
Edit:
Holy shit. Praised be Maro!
SigmasonicX
Member
Yes, here.
I am interested in taking part in Unstable draft or whatever release event they have, since I've never played a silver bordered game.
Thanks. Hooray!
SigmasonicX
Member
Magic Christmas Land
Land
Tap: Add <> to your mana pool.
(2), Tap: Your next combo this turn can't be interrupted.
(6), Tap, sacrifice Magic Christmas Land: Search your library for a combo piece, reveal it, and explain the combo to your opponents. If they agree it's a combo, put the card in your hand. Then shuffle your library.
Oh, and we're definitely going to get a black Spike, a white Mel, and a red Vorthos.
Land
Tap: Add <> to your mana pool.
(2), Tap: Your next combo this turn can't be interrupted.
(6), Tap, sacrifice Magic Christmas Land: Search your library for a combo piece, reveal it, and explain the combo to your opponents. If they agree it's a combo, put the card in your hand. Then shuffle your library.
Oh, and we're definitely going to get a black Spike, a white Mel, and a red Vorthos.
What tribes are being featured in this year's Commander product
Infinite Stars
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Vorthos' feels distinctly Blue to me. Johnny would be red, with Timmy being Green?
Joke idea: make the Profile 5, so stuff like:
A Jonny Vengenant R
Timmy Fatty-Caster G
Mel the Mechanist W
Vorthos the Seeker U
Spike the Forceful B
(The entire idea is built around a Jonny Vengenant, not going to lie)
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