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A mono-color deck consisting of the worst color in EDH? Challenge accepted!
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Purphoros is basically a reprint though.
Simply Sarah
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My take is that it's a good card that may or may not have a deck where it is playable.
I feel like its best chance in standard could be Madness, but who knows.
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I know we're in spoiler season for the new set, but did anyone notice this before, or did I just catch it for the first time?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Jhoira is an agent of mogis? Saw this on reddit but made little sense back then. Not all horn shaped things are bolas.
I'd be shocked if they put the literal Bolas horn shape on her sword hilt as a coincidence given how iconic they've made it in the game.
At first I was surprised by how much I liked the flavour/art/etc. of these news cards--then I realized that it's because the Gatewatch aren't featured on any of them, and it reminds me of older sets that focused their creative energy on worldbuilding.
The red uncommon one-drop seems decent.
The red uncommon one-drop seems decent.
Simply Sarah
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I hate the redundant wording on this, but this card would've been so good with Smuggler's Copter. Still great though.
Yeah. I sort of stared at it for a few seconds when I saw it. I actually think that instead of making things more clear it risks causing more confusion since it somewhat implies a cycled card isn't actually discarded. It's even more strange given that the cycling reminder text clearly states that it's a discard effect.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Can't attack/block unless you've got 1 or fewer cards, though.
I don't see how you could keep up the burn in any sort of red EDH deck when you're cutting off your card access in order to get anything out of the god. Feldon gets some use out of the graveyard outlet, sure, but that seems pretty rough to try and pull off.
Yeah, maybe something like 'cycle or otherwise discard a card' would be better, given that they're trying to make it work if you have other outlets? As is, its definitely muddy.
HAH! I should have found the whole picture before assuming it was a sword hilt. Still, those are Bolas horns.
Not while path is around. It also gets stonewalled by a goyf, shadow, Angler. Edh card
Giant Panda
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Well it kills the angler. And doesn't Goyf spend most of his time around a 4/5?
Yeah, it's not super great in any case. It's minimum 7 mana to get a single card into the graveyard, and that goes up to 10 to actually get it on the battlefield with Feldon. There's way more efficient ways to do that, and get better side benefits than ~6 damage.
The plus side is that Feldon (by virtue of being mono Red) is a pretty shitty commender anyways, so the bar is pretty low!
Infinite Stars
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Not Nowdays, where he gets up to 8/9 because of Death's Shadow Jund
I was referring to the gearhulks not the Theros gods.
divisionbyzorro
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I kind of like the new god mechanics. In Theros, the gods "disappeared" if you didn't believe in them. Here, they still hang out, but just don't give a shit.
That is the first thing that came to mind when I saw the card. Personally, it's pretty exciting because I love playing with Traverse and Ishkanah.
Goyf is regularly a 5/6, 6/7 these days since deaths shadow was a thing. This also can't get passed a shadow. If it's playable in modern, it would be in some kind of 8 rack deck as a top curved and even that's hard since 8 rack only gets to 3 mana.
Yeah, they should have started with a Planeswalker as well. At least Nissa.
charlequin
Banned
Mono-red's a little harder to sell IMO, you wouldn't really have a passionate and emotional zombie unless you stretch the definition a good bit. Green is pretty easy and territory they've already touched on, they just generally make these green/black instead of mono-green.
They start literally every spoiler season with a Timmy card in Maro's article and limited fodder in the mechanics article. This is why they started a day early with the bikelands. Also these days they like to give most of the tournament card previews to third parties and those often share later in the day to get their own spotlight.
Red god is terrible ....
Wow , like really bad.
The funny part is they spoiled the green crocodile next to it, which seems better.
Let me see a 5/4 haste in red for 3r that cant attack or block unless im out of cards/near out of cards vs a 5/4 haste that has to put a -1/-1 counter on one of my creatures... so yes if i top deck him hes a 4/3 haste , but still a playable
There a few corner case scenarios where the red god is better , but yeah .... not at all a fan
Wow , like really bad.
The funny part is they spoiled the green crocodile next to it, which seems better.
Let me see a 5/4 haste in red for 3r that cant attack or block unless im out of cards/near out of cards vs a 5/4 haste that has to put a -1/-1 counter on one of my creatures... so yes if i top deck him hes a 4/3 haste , but still a playable
There a few corner case scenarios where the red god is better , but yeah .... not at all a fan
ThLunarian
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I think you could do an angry or vengeful zombie pretty easily. Vengeance sort of bleeds into black, but anger is straight up red
Man, this is really boring compared to Purphoros.First god:
charlequin
Banned
hazoret the pervert singlehandedly makes the invocations worthwhile imo
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Awaiting the playtest version that's just named "top down sphinx of Egypt"
Non-promo version.
Simply Sarah
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You're comparing a 5/4 indestructible haste create with a functional ability for 3X to an effective 4/3 haste creature for 3X. They may both be aggressive creatures but they're also quite different and Hazoret has a lot more upside.
Yep, mechanically this is a home run. In Theros you had to believe in the gods, but here the gods don't need your belief - they want you to *do* something. You get their favour by following their commands, and if you don't then they don't disappear, they just don't help you.
It's themeatically a good way of keeping the established style for gods they set-up in Theros, whilst also keeping them grounded in a very different way.
charlequin
Banned
So the leaked card we saw was "Dawn (to) Dusk."
BTW, I feel like Destined (to) Lead makes it clearer why this is done better as a split-card-style mechanic than a flashback variant.
Yeah, it fits the in-character description of how the two pantheons differ very precisely. It's a good mechanical hook too.
hazoret the pervert singlehandedly makes the invocations worthwhile imo
I cannot unsee that now...
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Trick... was right??
So the leaked card we saw was "Dawn (to) Dusk."
BTW, I feel like Destined (to) Lead makes it clearer why this is done better as a split-card-style mechanic than a flashback variant.
hazoret the pervert singlehandedly makes the invocations worthwhile imo
Between Blaze and this, the Invocation font kind of redeemed itself.
charlequin
Banned
I'm trying to come up with other good cards to fit an NSFW romance red deck now starring this chick and Enthralling Victor.
Joe Molotov
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Ass (to) Mouth
Didn't they imply Enthralling Victor was gay? Maybe it was on Maro's blog? Or was that just fan fiction in here.
Still should've been DFCs instead of the ugly Split card template.
Non-legendary creatures don't represent an individual (and are genderless as a result). So, some Enthralling Victors are gay, some aren't.
Simply Sarah
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Going back a bit to what MaRo has to say about the new gods in his article today:
This seems like a recipe for disappointing a lot of players. I get that these don't have the enchantment factor that the Theros gods had which resulted in them being flavoured largely like enchantments with a conditional body attached but this seems to indicate they'll all be relatively similar to to Hazoret. Now, this is fine and could result in them all being very solid cards but, given how lukewarm (or worse) many players seem to be over Hazoret, it doesn't seem like it'll get the Timmys and general player base excited.
This seems like a recipe for disappointing a lot of players. I get that these don't have the enchantment factor that the Theros gods had which resulted in them being flavoured largely like enchantments with a conditional body attached but this seems to indicate they'll all be relatively similar to to Hazoret. Now, this is fine and could result in them all being very solid cards but, given how lukewarm (or worse) many players seem to be over Hazoret, it doesn't seem like it'll get the Timmys and general player base excited.
charlequin
Banned
Maybe they aren't a couple and they just run a BDSM dungeon together.
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