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Man faints, dies after seeing epidural

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Justin Bailey

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As wussy as it sounds, the hospital shouldn't have asked someone without training to help out like that. They screwed up.
 

blahness

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i almost fainted both times my wife had it done.... something freaks me out about needles going into the spine
 

element

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Justin Bailey said:
As wussy as it sounds, the hospital shouldn't have asked someone without training to help out like that. They screwed up.
That is like the doctor asking the father to help his wife breathe during labor. So because the husband is part of the process and something bad happens it makes the hospital liable?

Sorry. I don't buy it.
 

Ruzbeh

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sp0rsk said:
he feinted and died IN A HOSPITAL
Yeah, but is this really the fault of the hospital? Check this out:
The sight of the needle caused Steven Passalaqua, 33, to faint and he fell backward, striking his head on an aluminum cap molding at the base of the wall.
I mean, holy shit. It was just something unfortunate. No one is to blame. Unless the 'aluminum cap molding' wasn't 'supposed' to be there or something. It would be very lame if the hospital was to blame thanks to that molding.
 

Lil' Dice

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Have any of you seen an epidural needle?
Have any of you had to witness one being injected into the spine of your siginficant other?

Have any of you ever been to a Kaiser hospital?
 

Justin Bailey

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element said:
That is like the doctor asking the father to help his wife breathe during labor. So because the husband is part of the process and something bad happens it makes the hospital liable?

Sorry. I don't buy it.
No it's more like the doctor asking the husband to hand him the scalpel while he cuts his wife open. Some people just aren't equipped to handle that shit.
 

heavenly

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muncheese said:
heh, loosely they got him involved.....either way.....the thread title is misleading, jerk(the op not you scoot, although....your avatar is an asshole).

It's the name of the article, simpleton.
 

element

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Justin Bailey said:
No it's more like the doctor asking the husband to hand him the scalpel while he cuts his wife open. Some people just aren't equipped to handle that shit.
WTF? How do you get that from the story?

In June 2004, Passalaqua’s husband, Steven Passalaqua, was asked by Kaiser staff to hold and steady his wife while an employee inserted an epidural needle into her back, court papers said.
The way I see it is they asked him to hold her hand, have her concentrate on him. It isn't like the guy is making the mark where the needle goes, or helping the doctor actually perform the epidural.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
heh I was out of the room when they gave my missus the ep... not because I'd asked to leave, but because she'd asked me to go home and bring back a few things... she said it hurt like a mother.

Because Passalaqua was solicited by Kaiser to assist in the epidural, the lawsuit said, the hospital “owed him a duty to exercise reasonable care to prevent foreseeable injuries resulting from his participation.”

So what they were suppose to remodel the floor before he did it? Come on this is tragic for sure but that quote/basis for the lawsuit is absolute bullshit.

This really does suck all around though.
 
element said:
WTF? How do you get that from the story?

The way I see it is they asked him to hold her hand, have her concentrate on him. It isn't like the guy is making the mark where the needle goes, or helping the doctor actually perform the epidural.


Isn't the "holding" where the persong has to put his arms around her back/ and her legs while she's in the fetal position? (This is my knowledge of spinals from ER........... -_-)
 

Justin Bailey

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The impression I get from the story is that they had the husband sit there and watch this big-ass needle get injected into his wife's spine and he couldn't handle it.
 
If she wins this suit. Or if the suit is even heard then the legal system will have failed. Simply put this is the epitome of a frivolous lawsuit. People who file these lawsuits are simply trying to hurt others to make themselves feel better. I appreciate her loss, but if her husband couldn't take it then he shouldn't have been there. All this will lead to if she wins is a precedent where the hospitals will no longer let husbands be with their wives during labor for fear of legal repercussions. These stories make me sick.
 
Goddamn that's a frivolous lawsuit, at least from the details given. He fainted and fell, and it's the hospital's fault?

I hate all the usual dickering about lawsuits and I think that they're more often justified than the press/complainers would have you believe, but this is just silly.
 

Lonestar

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I hope she wins. That'll teach the Hospitals not to put floors in the operating room.
 
Odd. I've had a few epidurals. And guess what? They're not painful at all. What a bitch lawsuit.

My mother has passed out twice during procedures peformed on me. She didn't sue. Everyone had a good laugh. :lol
 

element

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All this will lead to if she wins is a precedent where the hospitals will no longer let husbands be with their wives during labor for fear of legal repercussions.
Ding Ding Ding. We have a winar!
 
BigGreenMat said:
All this will lead to if she wins is a precedent where the hospitals will no longer let husbands be with their wives during labor for fear of legal repercussions.

until another doofus sues for sexual discrimination for not being allowed into the hospital room while his wife is giving birth.
 

element

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Ninja Scooter said:
until another doofus sues for sexual discrimination for not being allowed into the hospital room while his wife is giving birth.
That is it!!! No more births period!!

Until we are able to grow humans in tubes like in the Matrix!!!
 

Mashing

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blahness said:
i almost fainted both times my wife had it done.... something freaks me out about needles going into the spine

I'd most definately faint, those needles are fucking huge. But how does a hosipital lose a paintent from fainting especially since their response time would be near instaneous I'd hope.

Edit: Nevermind, I really should read the articles before responding. He hit is head on something, that'd would explain the death.
 

Lil' Dice

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Some people have an inherent fear of spiders, i would call them pussies; then again i'm afraid of Sony fanboys.....so who am i to judge?
 

belgurdo

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*dies total*
 

akascream

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element said:
That is it!!! No more births period!!

Until we are able to grow humans in tubes like in the Matrix!!!


Only if robots do the growing. If a human had to cultivate the fetus farm, and passed out in the process....
 

pnjtony

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It was the episiotomy that freaked me out. I didn't know the doc was going to do one and then I saw him give her a shot and it swelled all up and then he cut it like you'd cut a raw chicken breast or something. I know my vision got a tad blurry and I looked out the window for about 5 seconds when that happened but I was good after that. I had no idea what an episiotomy was before then.

yikes
 

RedDwarf

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I've been through that twice and it's not like they ask you to hold the fucking needle. Seriously, this case is ridiculous. She should pay the hospital to take her kid because as a nutcase she shouldn't have one.
 
Incognito said:
Odd. I've had a few epidurals. And guess what? They're not painful at all. What a bitch lawsuit.
You realize that your experience doesn't mean that all epidurals are painless, right? I had a root canal and after everyone told me it would hurt like hell, I was amazed when the dentist told me she was done because I had had absolutely no pain whatsoever. Doesn't mean I go around telling people who say their root canals hurt are just being whiny bitches.

Incognito said:
My mother has passed out twice during procedures peformed on me. She didn't sue.
Did she die?
 

Umpteen

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an epidural is absolutely painful. There's really just no way it could NOT be, unless the person receiving it had nerve damage.

The thing is, by the time you are getting the epidural, whatever pain you might feel from the huge needle being shoved into your spine is FAR outweighed by the pain of labor. I was so grateful to be having it I just remember thinking "wow that didn't hurt nearly as much as I thought it would."
 
Umpteen said:
an epidural is absolutely painful. There's really just no way it could NOT be, unless the person receiving it had nerve damage.


An epidural isn't absolutely painful. Pretty much all hospitals use an anaesthetic like lidocaine on the site so most patients don't feel a hell of a lot during the injection. Plus with the cortisone being injected right into the spine, what pain their was during the initial shot usually goes away quite quickly.

If you guys want to see a real needle, you should check out what they use for a bone marrow biopsy. That thing is a fucking rail.
 

darscot

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When my son was born my wife had a C section. As the Father your allowed to be in the operating room. They tell me just to go in and there will be a stool next to my wife and that I have to sit on it. I go in and the stool is like one foot of the ground, I was like what up with that. The nurse tells me it so you dont hurt yourself if you faint.
 
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