Marc Laidlaw has left Valve

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I fucking hate when people invent a game with so many crazy features.

Now I want something that doesnt exist.

And this is likely the reason why Valve asked the Reddit admins to remove it. It's essentially creating an unrealistic expectation by fans of their upcoming work. When Half Life 3 is released people will go "oh, I thought this was going to have feature X and Y" and "I read online it was going to have AI controlled hot dogs"... and then get disappointed that those features aren't in the game.
 
C'mon you know it wouldn't end there. The amount of media attention which would result in such an announcement is probably something they want to be avoiding at this point of time.

Details, reveals and release dates would be the 3 things EVERYONE would be asking them for constantly

It's almost like they are a video game company releasing a highly anticipated video game
 

Smash88

Banned
C'mon you know it wouldn't end there. The amount of media attention which would result in such an announcement is probably something they want to be avoiding at this point of time.

Details, reveals and release dates would be the 3 things EVERYONE would be asking them for constantly

Details, reveals and release dates would be the 3 things EVERYONE would be asking them for constantly

be the 3 things EVERYONE would



Confirmed?

Am I doing this right?
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
or they're just absolutely fucking fed up dealing with angry yelling fans who think their job should be to mollycoddle them rather than actually make games, and so someone posting a massive wad of garbage makes it harder for them to manage the level of fan bullshit?

I do think their job should be to make games!
 
Reddit mods probably trolling.

Someone at Valve wouldn't leak something (with character names misspelled no less) and after the countless leaks of stuff from the studio though the years Valve has never actually officially asked someone to remove information ever.


I mean shit. It took Valve a week to mention they leaked a thousands of peoples personal info. They are not going to be PM'ing reddit mods within a hour of HL3 info being posted.
 
Like if Valve was always asking that Reddit to delete stuff I'd be on board with the "this is bullshit" but the mods confirmed that's never happened before this so I dunno.
 

Corto

Member
Then maybe Valve should act as adults and fucking end this farce by officially commenting whether HL3 is\isn't in development. Nobody's asking for details, reveals or a release date.

That's an impossible task.

"-Are you working on Half Life 3?"
-We're not actively developing HL3 at this moment. But that world and story are very dear to us and we know that it's also very dear to our fans. Whenever we'll have something objective to announce they're the ones that will know first hand.

One week later

"-What about now?"
Nope."

Another week pass

"And now? Have you read that thread on Reddit? Will we have clowns smoking and calling the player a dick? Can you give us a confirmation on that?"
 

Saty

Member
C'mon you know it wouldn't end there. The amount of media attention which would result in such an announcement is probably something they want to be avoiding at this point of time.

Details, reveals and release dates would be the 3 things EVERYONE would be asking them for constantly

Like they aren't now? Like every hint of an ARG isn't hyped up as HL releated? Like their mailboxes aren't bombarded with e-mails all the time?

At least they could say they said something. For some reason they think it's unfit to comment if the game is in any development at all. 'We are\aren't working on HL3 currently. We have no details to share at this moment. It will be out when it's done'. But no, somehow expecting any comment at all is unreasonable.
If indeed Valve doesn't like the commotion and asked to bring this post down then all they have to blame is themselves by continuing this ridiculous radio-silence.
 
At this point it wouldn't surprise me if Valve is trolling by asking the mods to remove that post.

Honestly the only thing that would surprise me would be the announcement, I'm done with these rides and riddles and ARG's and whatever. I moved past it finally. If it gets released great, if not, whatever, I already survived like...8..9 years without it.
 

Piers

Member
Too much of his writing reeks of what he specifically observes/wants as a player and less from a developer.

C'mon you know it wouldn't end there. The amount of media attention which would result in such an announcement is probably something they want to be avoiding at this point of time.

Details, reveals and release dates would be the 3 things EVERYONE would be asking them for constantly

It'd cause hell, but in the short term. Lot of people here don't realise how over-shadowed in relevancy HL2 has become.
 

Interfectum

Member
or they're just absolutely fucking fed up dealing with angry yelling fans who think their job should be to mollycoddle them rather than actually make games, and so someone posting a massive wad of garbage makes it harder for them to manage the level of fan bullshit?

I dunno, most called bullshit until Valve got it removed. They surely understand the Streisand effect.
 

Nzyme32

Member
I dunno, most called bullshit until Valve got it removed. They surely understand the Streisand effect.

Which makes it less believable to begin with. That sub has been filled with so many "leaks" all complete nonsense that people eat up. Until Valve say something themselves or it comes directly from Steam or something - it's pretty much always bull
 

Interfectum

Member
Which makes it less believable to begin with. That sub has been filled with so many "leaks" all complete nonsense that people eat up. Until Valve say something themselves or it comes directly from Steam or something - it's pretty much always bull

Sure but the mods there even said this was the first time Valve has had something removed. If everything is always bullshit, why force reddit to pull it. Why not just tweet "Yeah, no" and be done with it or even better, ignore it like everything else?

Take me for example. I was 100% sure this was bullshit. I read it, laughed and moved on. I figured I'd check this thread one more time to see what's going on and found out they forcefully removed it. Now I'm only 99% sure it's bullshit. I'm not a crazy fan and I don't believe crazy conspiracy theories, but Valve is the one that caused doubt here. If the story is pure bullshit why even acknowledge it at all, let alone force a removal from a sub you say is full of bullshit "leaks" anyway?

Just seems weird.
 

Piers

Member
Sure but the mods there even said this was the first time Valve has had something removed. If everything is always bullshit, why force reddit to pull it. Why not just tweet "Yeah, no" and be done with it or even better, ignore it like everything else?

Take me for example. I was 100% sure this was bullshit. I read it, laughed and moved on. I figured I'd check this thread one more time to see what's going on and found out they forcefully removed it. Now I'm only 99% sure it's bullshit. I'm not a crazy fan and I don't believe crazy conspiracy theories, but Valve is the one that caused doubt here. If the story is pure bullshit why even acknowledge it at all, let alone force a removal from a sub you say is full of bullshit "leaks" anyway?

Just seems weird.

Lots of things seemed weird until Doug Lombardi descended from the heavens for the routine "No, that's nothing to do with ____"
 

gdt

Member
I'm not ready to believe.

The post is such horseshit. It says so much that the strongest point in its favor is Valve asking for it to be taken down.
 

Lingitiz

Member
That post sounds like total BS but damn it would be cool if it were real.

It honestly sounds more like what I imagine L4D3 to be though.
 

DeBurgo

Member
The "Valve took it down" claim is most likely that subreddit mod trying to stir up drama.

It wouldn't be the first time a head of a half-life fan community has cracked.
 

Smash88

Banned
The only thing from that removed post I don't understand is:

"The product may release this year, the biggest factor that I've heard is marketability. Not for Half-Life 3 to be a commercial (?) success, but for one that doesn't hurt others' sales. "

Can anyone clarify what he may have meant by this? Why would Valve care if it hurt sales of another game?
 

Lingitiz

Member
The only thing from that removed post I don't understand is:

"The product may release this year, the biggest factor that I've heard is marketability. Not for Half-Life 3 to be a commercial (?) success, but for one that doesn't hurt others' sales. "

Can anyone clarify what he may have meant by this? Why would Valve care if it hurt sales of another game?

That's the biggest part that stands out as straight up BS.

But I guess it means they don't want to piss off their partners and overshadow a big release or something.
 

Servbot #42

Unconfirmed Member
or they're just absolutely fucking fed up dealing with angry yelling fans who think their job should be to mollycoddle them rather than actually make games, and so someone posting a massive wad of garbage makes it harder for them to manage the level of fan bullshit?

umm people have been posting massive wads of garbage since years ago, it's what the internet does, spew endless bullshit. What makes that specific reddit post worthy of taking action? Personally i thought that "insider" was full of bullshit since he was hyping the game as a technological wonder full stuff never seen in games before.
 

Smash88

Banned
That's the biggest part that stands out as straight up BS.

But I guess it means they don't want to piss off their partners and overshadow a big release or something.

Yeah I guess that would make sense, now that I think about it. They are the biggest DD store right now, and hold somewhat of a monopoly. If they overshadowed every other product on Steam it could leave a sour taste in a publishers mouth, which could mean they will try to downplay it on the Steam store and not make it the forefront of the store.
 

Gav47

Member
The only thing from that removed post I don't understand is:

"The product may release this year, the biggest factor that I've heard is marketability. Not for Half-Life 3 to be a commercial (?) success, but for one that doesn't hurt others' sales. "

Can anyone clarify what he may have meant by this? Why would Valve care if it hurt sales of another game?

dude hl3 is going to be like soooo good that no one will ever buy another game again

That post is complete hogwash
 

Surfinn

Member
or they're just absolutely fucking fed up dealing with angry yelling fans who think their job should be to mollycoddle them rather than actually make games, and so someone posting a massive wad of garbage makes it harder for them to manage the level of fan bullshit?

They're fed up with it, but the way they've dealt with it is with apathy and silence. So it feels strange that they'd even go out of their way to remove some fan theory. Why even waste time? Kinda makes me think they're at least concerned something got out, even if it wasn't directly stated/displayed in the Reddit post. Mods say they've received evidence, so maybe Valve just doesn't wanna risk info being leaked, if there's even a small chance it's real.
 

yuraya

Member
The only thing from that removed post I don't understand is:

"The product may release this year, the biggest factor that I've heard is marketability. Not for Half-Life 3 to be a commercial (?) success, but for one that doesn't hurt others' sales. "

Can anyone clarify what he may have meant by this? Why would Valve care if it hurt sales of another game?

Probably about CSGO. If Half-Life 3 comes out half of the CSGO population would stop playing it and instead play HL3. Fans know whatever engine, graphics and mechanics in Half-Life 3 would spawn the next counter strike as well. But yea it does sound silly. If anything it would attract more eyes to your platform and drive overall sales higher. The game would be huge tho. You never know what it could lead to.


or they're just absolutely fucking fed up dealing with angry yelling fans who think their job should be to mollycoddle them rather than actually make games, and so someone posting a massive wad of garbage makes it harder for them to manage the level of fan bullshit?

You must believe Stump.

Believe
 

Lingitiz

Member
Yeah I guess that would make sense, now that I think about it. They are the biggest DD store right now, and hold somewhat of a monopoly. If they overshadowed every other product on Steam it could leave a sour taste in a publishers mouth, which could mean they will try to downplay it on the Steam store and not make it the forefront of the store.

I guess the other possibility is the state of L4D3 and the release timing of that? That's the only thing I genuinely believe we'll see out of Valve within the next year.
 
What is even happening in here? Can I get a recap?

I'm sorry I have to ask this but WTF is going on last few pages, I'm so confused about that happened or that anything happened at all.

A redditor posted a wall of text about HL3 and claimed the mods gave him greenlight to do so. The mod later posted that yeah, they can't really verify him, but he posted them pics and stuff that might mean there's something, so that's why they greenlit it, but didn't sticky it. Then the post got taken down and according to the mod it was because Valve requested it, which is a first.
 
What is even happening in here? Can I get a recap?
- Marc Laidlaw retires
- Sparks Half-Life 3 discussion
- BS post is made on Reddit that talks about HL3's development, areas and features that are supposedly in the game
- BS post is deleted
- Gullible people believe the post simply because of it's deletion and itshappening.jpg
- Still no solid, concrete info on HL3
- Time to move on again

There ya go. :)
 

Corto

Member
I'm sorry I have to ask this but WTF is going on last few pages, I'm so confused about that happened or that anything happened at all.

A supposedly Valve employee "leaked" some details about Half Life 3 development on a reddit thread after getting the go ahead from the moderation there. Thread got locked. Moderation confirmed that Valve (whatever that means) asked the thread to be closed.
 
A redditor posted a wall of text about HL3 and claimed the mods gave him greenlight to do so. The mod later posted that yeah, they can't really verify him, but he posted them pics and stuff that might mean there's something, so that's why they greenlit it, but didn't sticky it. Then the post got taken down and according to the mod it was because Valve requested it, which is a first.

- Marc Laidlaw retires
- Sparks Half-Life 3 discussion
- BS post is made on Reddit that talks about HL3's development, areas and features that are supposedly in the game
- BS post is deleted
- Gullible people believe the post simply because of it's deletion and itshappening.jpg
- Still no solid, concrete info on HL3
- Time to move on again

There ya go. :)

A supposedly Valve employee "leaked" some details about Half Life 3 development on a reddit thread after getting the go ahead from the moderation there. Thread got locked. Moderation confirmed that Valve (whatever that means) asked the thread to be closed.
Thanks for clearing everything thing up for now, I thought it was a post on gaf and had to do with a GAF mod.
Ok good to know.
Well if Valve really asked a mod to delete a thing then at least there is something that was in dev at one point that may be under NDA at least fairly recently.
 
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