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[Slayven]

Is there something unusual about living in two places?

Just to say it is unusual for someone to draw that conclusion that blacks are treated well when the mayor of the city was caught red handed covering up for racist police.

 

[Pterion]

OK, well fuck off then.

Tell us how you really feel.

 

[univariate]

Just to say it is unusual for someone to draw that conclusion that blacks are treated well when the mayor of the city was caught red handed covering up for racist police.

kindly see my above post. thanks.

 

[Tripolygon]

1) It's only underage that are being arrested and by a large margin 10 to 17 not 18-just under 21.
2) As a parent I want the police to arrest my Son if he is smoking.
3) Police if they care will arrest any child smoking, not arresting a white Kid is long term FAVORING minority kids.

I have never ever personally attacked someone on this forum but I will like to personally say
FUCK YOU JEFF, get your bigoted racist oldass back to gaming section.
I mean what the fuck is that? Are fucking insane? Read that sentence 10 times and see if that makes any sense at all.

Yea getting arrested is so much better than not getting arrested in America, really jeff, really?

 

[univariate]

Tell us how you really feel.

I did. I admitted to being wrong, not sure what else you want.

 

[Slayven]

kindly see my above post. thanks.

That is what people wanted, how you honestly felt

 

[.JayZii]

isn't Colorado suppose to be super liberal and progressive?

States in the US are big places with quite a bit of diversity on political leanings within them. Compare the views of urban and rural denizens of your own state and be shocked.

Weed isn't magic.

 

[Enzom21]

Tell us how you really feel.

He would but that kind of language is against the TOS.

 

[Slayven]

States in the US are big places with quite a bit of diversity on political leanings within them. Compare the views of urban and rural denizens of your own state and be shocked.

Weed isn't magic.

Not really, I live in Georgia . But the demographics, they are a changing

 

[univariate]

He would but that kind of language is against the TOS.

I don't use the kind of language you're suggesting.

I am no racist, and you better not twist any of my words. But, go on, and play the victim card.

 

[Dany]

I don't use the kind of language you're suggesting.

I am no racist, and you better not twist any of my words. But, go on, and play the victim card.

You're a tragedy in the making.

 

[M0nochromatic]

Okay, I get that there's an age minimum that's leading to these arrests in the case of minors, but why would anyone but minors be arrested for pot in CO?

Does "legal" mean something different to these cops? Legalization only made a dent.

Seriously, I can't understand how someone can look at that data and not see the obvious.

 

[Zvonimir Boban]

Guys, you've got it all wrong. The reason univariate doesn't believe institutional racism exists is because he doesn't see colour.

Bet you all feel pretty embarrassed now huh?

 

[rjinaz]

I don't use the kind of language you're suggesting.

I am no racist, and you better not twist any of my words. But, go on, and play the victim card.

No, you just think racism isn't much of a thing anymore and Blacks are no longer being profiled against.

What do you think about BLM? Do you wonder why groups like BLM exist and think if anything, they are the racists ones and just causing trouble? Genuine question.

 

[Dai101]

#ALLLIVESMATTER. Of course

 

[PsychBat!]

I don't use the kind of language you're suggesting.

I am no racist, and you better not twist any of my words. But, go on, and play the victim card.

 

[CrimsonCommie]

It's always the same 2-3 racists on here shitting up threads like this.

 

[Pterion]

Seriously, I can't understand how someone can look at that data and not see the obvious.

They're not racists. It's not their fault that the Blacks cause 99% of the crimes. Those black genes are criminal in nature.

 

[Tripolygon]

Then you are in favor of 10 year olds smoking weed....If not please suggest a solution. Everyone is arguing the system is the problem not the police in arresting the 10 year olds smoking weed in plain view. And that might account for some of the difference in arrests. The white kids smoke their parents weed at home where they are hidden from police while the minority kids do so on the street. There can be lots of factors that do not rely on the police being bigots.

This is a moronic thing to say. You might be smart when it comes to gaming section but you are very stupid on social issues.

Laws, Police, Death, Addiction etc etc has never ever stopped nor deterred people from smoking weed or using drugs. Do you know why people are pushing for the legalization of marijuana? Well because they make up a large population of US prison system for a low level "drug" which has not been shown to have adverse effect on people's health when compared to cigarette or alcohol.

Having a arrest record ruins people's lives. So how about we find better ways to teach our kids not to smoke, instead of arresting them. Take some of the tax money gotten from legalizing weed to invest in education and rehab centers.

 

[Crud]

I don't use the kind of language you're suggesting.

I am no racist, and you better not twist any of my words. But, go on, and play the victim card.

Meltdown complete.

Good job!

 

[rjinaz]

This is a moronic thing to say. You might be smart when it comes to gaming section but you are very stupid on social issues.

Laws, Police, Death, Addiction etc etc has never ever stopped nor deterred people from smoking weed or using drugs. Do you know why people are pushing for the legalization of marijuana? Well because they make up a large population of US prison system for a low level "drug" which has not been shown to have adverse effect on people's health when compared to cigarette or alcohol.

Having a arrest record ruins people's lives. So how about we find better ways to teach our kids not to smoke, instead of arresting them. Take some of the tax money gotten from legalizing weed to invest in education and rehab centers.

I also have to imagine that eventually the consequences increase right? I mean after the second or third offense, I'm sure it's not going to be just a hand slap. Kids are stupid, doing something that is legal for adults. Most probably won't stop no matter what their skin color is, and in the end, it's going to be the minority kids with the records over this.

 

[PBalfredo]

I don't use the kind of language you're suggesting.

I am no racist, and you better not twist any of my words. But, go on, and play the victim card.

Before you stomp away, indignant of being called a racist without ever so much as saying the n word or attending a single klan meeting, maybe take the time to consider why everyone is aghast at your worldview and consider if it is actually in line with reality.

 

[Two Words]

1) It's only underage that are being arrested and by a large margin 10 to 17 not 18-just under 21.
2) As a parent I want the police to arrest my Son if he is smoking.
3) Police if they care will arrest any child smoking, not arresting a white Kid is long term FAVORING minority kids.

Yes, police target minorities because they favor them....

 

[Slayven]

Yes, police target minorities because they favor them....

and they can get away with it

 

[Claude Augario]

kindly see my above post. thanks.

Your response to his real world example is "fuck off?"

It's like you snatched your own wig off.

 

[Rayis]

You would think people who smoke weed on the regular would be more supporting of those who also do even if they're minors, no one should be arrested for possessing weed.

 

[A Link to the Past]

I guess I'll establish bonafides here and say plainly: there is clearly a problem in Colorado, it's clear that black and Latino juveniles are being arrested at rates that are not commensurate with their rates of "criminality" (scare quoted because that words feels too strong for the petty possession offenses we're discussing). I think the problem is clear enough that we can demonstrate it by strictly citing evidence directly without needing to stretch it.

Colorado's health agency shows that black Colorado high schoolers use weed at a higher rate than white Colorado high schoolers do. That discrepancy likely accounts for some -- but not all -- of the discrepancy we see in arrest rates. When we're talking about complex systems, like drug enforcement, it's important we're clear about the residuals on all of the possible factors.

Even attributing to "racial profiling" is complicated because we can imagine even more factors that we aren't accounting for here. Maybe black and Latino high schoolers tend to live in jurisdictions that are more heavily policed. That may or may not be a problem on its own; if those neighborhoods have higher violent crime rates, most people would probably agree that they should be more heavily policed. Now maybe you wanna call that a different kind of racial profiling, at the police allocation level instead of at the beat cop level, and I'd be sympathetic to that angle. Whatever model we try to fit to these arrest data is going to have a whole bunch of factors, and I can't say without doing the work what the r^2 on profiling is. It's probably big enough for us to be concerned, tho.

But we cannot just act as though this is not a problem of racial profiling because in doing so we act as though Colorado operates in a fashion that is different from most states where we can absolutely see the existence of racial profiling. Asserting that racial profiling is absent or overstated requires demonstrating what makes Colorado particularly different that it wouldn't have this as a problem. Addressing the fact that police presence is high in minority areas, it also should be noted that Colorado police, at least in 2013, engaged in 10s of thousands of stop and frisks of people every year:

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_23959842/police-colorado-often-stop-and-frisk-but-little

It's a fair assumption too then that a police force that patrols non-white neighborhoods so much and tends to stop-and-frisk people on the streets would, as such, be disproportionately doing it to non-white people. This is enhanced further by the fair assumption that their police force has the same profiling problems as others.

 

[Chumly]

isn't Colorado suppose to be super liberal and progressive?

There's no such thing as super liberal and progressive cops. It's the same regardless of what state you are in.

 

[Ecto311]

isn't Colorado suppose to be super liberal and progressive?

Oh man not here in southern Colorado. It's a republican loving shitshow. Tons of trump voters around here too. Some of the most ignorant people I have ever met are all around me here in the Alcatraz of the rockies.

 

[Enzom21]

I don't use the kind of language you're suggesting.

I am no racist, and you better not twist any of my words. But, go on, and play the victim card.

I wasn't calling you a racist, I was talking about you continuing along the path you started with "fuck off," which is against the TOS(I'm fairly certain telling people to fuck off is against the TOS as well).
If I had wanted to call you a racist, I would have done so. Interesting that your mind went there though.
Also, who is playing the victim here?