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Mario Baseball - Itsa Awesome.

Musashi Wins!

FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
Ok, I want to come eat a little crow on this, because I was wrong. It's a really good game, maybe an excellent one. Apparently I was a little too fast to judge my short play time with it as there were things I didn't understand or notice while playing the Japanese release. Anyhow, I rented this yesterday and ended up playing it for hours and hours...here are my new and more humble impressions....

-Graphics are great. Nice models (basically like the other sports games) some really nice animations (several character specific movements, etc.) and great stadiums. The stadiums are all themed (one is hidden) and have great obstacles that actually work in the game without becoming overbearing. There is a normal stadium too for those that prefer that.

-Gameplay, gameplay, gameplay. Pitching and hitting are great. You have 3 normal style (but differing in execution) pitches you can use at any time, a power up pitch (with limited use) and the opportunity to pick up special pitches for certain games. All of this is effected by your location on the mound and you can effect direction after the pitch. Batting has much the same set up, and there is a very well done bunt ability as well. Since every character has different abilities and attributes, can gain medals in story mode and reacts differently to certain characters because of friendship affinities (!) the combination of matchups is just great for an arcade game. Not to mention that the game actually has fantastic ball physics, bat control, etc. Very impressive. Easy to learn but a lot to master.

-My biggest gripes from before: Fielding and Running. Well, I believe someone called me on this and they were right about not noticing the controls (language barrier and bad info from my co-player I guess). First of all, the characters are effected by their fielding and speed scores and you want to have your fielders set up appropriately (ie. have someone fast in center!). However, all characters can boost by tapping B and all characters can dive for close balls. The range is dependent on their fielding. You'll even see great looking errors by bad fielders. It's not easy, this is arcade, but I had several games last night that were 2-4 hit affairs. It just takes time to get a bit more comfortable. Running can be a little confusing because you need to constantly be aware of your players, they run automatically on every hit and you need to return them to avoid double plays. You can also stop them anywhere in the basepaths, basically by tapping X/Y. One of the reviews mentioned the run markers being off, but I didn't notice this on the screen.

-Lots of game modes. Exhibition, mini games and toy field which is a competitive chase to get coins. Quite good. Single player is great. Basically it's a baseball RPG that has you beating local teams and participating in lots of mini games that are located on a world map. Along the way you need to accomplish time specific goals to gain players from the other team, get power ups, and earn coins to spend for game specific power ups at a store. You'll also have random baseball/encounters on the roads in between stadiums. Just a blast so far. There are many characters to unlock and at least one stadium. As I've said before it's fairly cool as every character has unique attributes and specializes in power/speed/technique, etc.

So....I was really wrong about this game. I should have said less about my brief time with it before. Now I'm confused as to why it's gotten fairly low scores at many places as this game seems to be an update of the old NES baseball stars with better play and more features. That's what I wanted. It has Nintendo characters and no name editor and such which used to be fun with the old game, but it has a SOLID engine and quite a bit of content.

I'm definitely going to pick this up for full price, I'd suggest it to any arcade sports fan, there's nothing like this on western consoles. I'm a huge baseball fan but I expect to enjoy this more than any Mario sports title I've tried yet.
 
SnowWolf said:
Eh, I think it's only worth picking up at $20. Mario Super Strikers for the win.


I guess it depends how much you wanted an update of the old-style baseball arcade games. I wanted one pretty bad.
 
I think I would have a fair amount of fun with this one, to be honest with you...its single-player mode sounds similar to that of Sega Soccer Slam. Hopefully SMS works out the same.
 
Memles said:
I think I would have a fair amount of fun with this one, to be honest with you...its single-player mode sounds similar to that of Sega Soccer Slam. Hopefully SMS works out the same.


The same team that made Soccer Slam is making SMS so I think it's a pretty safe bet it will be.
 
I was interested in this but the weird scores it has been getting has made me weary. Musashi if you could speculate perhaps how do you see replay value on this game? And have you tried out multiplayer at all?
 
Musashi Wins! said:
Ok, I want to come eat a little crow on this, because I was wrong.

Thanks for the impressions. I was pretty unhappy to hear your initial disappointment with the game since it seems like your videogame baseball tastes are in line with my own. I'm very pleased that things have changed with the U.S. release. Now I've just got to set aside some cash that I thought I would not be spending.

Btw, are most of the unlockable characters so far just the usual big name Nintendo ones or are there some cool generic folks to play with as well?
 
Killkernal said:
Btw, are most of the unlockable characters so far just the usual big name Nintendo ones or are there some cool generic folks to play with as well?

I'm not sure because a) I've been playing story games, mini-games and exhibitions to learn the gameplay well and haven't been unlocking, and b) I'm probably no longer the best judge of who is obscure and who isn't anymore. There are a lot of expected and recognizable characters initially unlocked and some classic characters from this gen used as filler. It really works though. It has great load screens, but that is one small negative..this game loads a little more than a typical Nintendo game.



I was interested in this but the weird scores it has been getting has made me weary. Musashi if you could speculate perhaps how do you see replay value on this game? And have you tried out multiplayer at all?

Sadly I did not try multiplayer with this one. I don't get to play multiplayer very much with Nintendo games (working stiff, not much home time with gamers, etc.) But I would LOVE to as the gameplay is ace and picking teams would be fun.

Honestly, there's a bit more here to do than I expected. How long the single player goes on I'm not really sure, but since even if you whip the other team you aren't guaranteed recruiting the other players or gaining medals, I assume it could take quite some time to get everyone and everything available. Plus, the mini-games are actually fun. A few of them do seem as though they'd be even better with live co-players.
 
old quote from musash said:
it's closer to baseball stars than a sim, but it is NO WHERE NEAR that series.

Would you put it closer to the greatness that is Baseball Stars 2 (not the NES version) now that you got more playtime? I know u mentioned the NES version but the neo-geo version is on a totally different level.
 
Hmm, me and my friends still play RBI Baseball all the time, its about time we found a new arcade style baseball game...
 
robot said:
Would you put it closer to the greatness that is Baseball Stars 2 (not the NES version) now that you got more playtime? I know u mentioned the NES version but the neo-geo version is on a totally different level.

play wise...well, it shares that great way you find your place on the mound and the perfect english and zip it in :lol The play is probably a lot deeper to be honest. I don't think it keeps stats in the same way Baseball Stars season did, but it does give complete box scores.

I'm hemming and hawwing, but this is a modern update of those old classic arcade titles. I can't remember anyone else making anything close, and Namco has experience with baseball, the ball physics and bat control are probably better additions alone to any arcade baseball I've played in years. The thing is...I love the true SNK Baseball Stars art and cutscenes. And the teams and presentation, etc. Those games (hell a lot of the old SNK games) have some of the coolest art I've seen in videogames. This isn't on that level as it's working with all Nintendo resources. But it plays great and as I keep repeating, if you used to spend hours playing those games you'll be on good ground with this one even if you're not as crazy about the Nintendo World presentation.
 
For everyone above discussing Strikers...

I've said it before, but I don't know if I can stress enough how simply FUN the game is.

Couldn't put it down! It was so very fast, responsive, quirky, and this was a few months ago!

Def. my most anticipated Mario sprots title right now, and I was a big Tennis fan.


As far as Baseball is concerned.... they sure got a good comerical!
 
I played it a lot yesterday and it's definitely awesome fun. Exactly what a Mario sports fan will like.

But I am looking more forward to Strikers.
 
Awesome! I actually held off based on reviews, but i think I'm gonna give this a go afterall. These Mario themed games are pretty much the only sports titles I can stomach.

I am curious to hear more about batting though. E3 impressions were pretty glum describing how difficult it was to make contact with pitches. Even some videos seemed to suggest something amiss with the contact system as certain pitches almost went through the batting range of motion. It just looked a bit sloppy.

Also a link to the commerical plz!
 
Ristamar said:
Could you elaborate a bit more on this? What exactly do the affinities do?


Certain characters have friendship bonds with others. Luigi/Mario, etc. You can go down your lineup and it will show which characters match. When characters with affinity are both on the basepaths and one is at bat, the character receives a slight performance bonus. Kind of neat, makes you spend an extra moment or two on lineups.

Awesome! I actually held off based on reviews, but i think I'm gonna give this a go afterall. These Mario themed games are pretty much the only sports titles I can stomach.

I am curious to hear more about batting though. E3 impressions were pretty glum describing how difficult it was to make contact with pitches. Even some videos seemed to suggest something amiss with the contact system as certain pitches almost went through the batting range of motion. It just looked a bit sloppy.

The batting is excellent. It's probably the most satisfying mechanic in the game. It's timing based and just a matter of hitting the sweet spot. I can't imagine someone taking more than a few at bats to get a basic handle on it. Where you start getting more complex is when you try to time your movements in the batters box to the pitchers mound movement, guessing whether their change up is coming (winds up like a super fast ball) and using the bat control to hit it to a particular side of the field. Plus you can bunt and it's awesome. And steal.
 
I picked it up yesterday and my brother and I started playing at about 10:00pm. We were still playing at 5:00am. We haven't played a game for this long since the SNES days.

Yes, it's damn good.
 
I'm addicted to it. I beat the story mode, didn't really take that long. But then you go for the next level again. With your new teammates, a new park and a new mini-game. Looks like there are two more times after this. And I'm a long way from getting all the badges and characters. And it's all good because I love it so.
 
If by awesome, you mean overly simplistic with pitching and hitting hit detection that's so hit or miss you might as well just spin on a barstool with a wavebird randomly pushing buttons...welllll....then yeah, it's awesome.
 
Matlock said:
If by awesome, you mean overly simplistic with pitching and hitting hit detection that's so hit or miss you might as well just spin on a barstool with a wavebird randomly pushing buttons...welllll....then yeah, it's awesome.

yea....well, you're flat out wrong. The hitting and pitching is simplistic in that the choices are small, but the execution isn't. Especially if you want to time a power hit. I've played the game about 7 hours or so and haven't seen the bad hit detection so perhaps the timing is challenging for....some people.
 
Musashi Wins! said:
I'm addicted to it. I beat the story mode, didn't really take that long. But then you go for the next level again. With your new teammates, a new park and a new mini-game. Looks like there are two more times after this. And I'm a long way from getting all the badges and characters. And it's all good because I love it so.


thanks for the impressions, picking this one up. I loves me some arcadish type baseball ;p
 
Musashi Wins! said:
yea....well, you're flat out wrong.

As much as I'd like to be wrong yet again, the gameplay I put into it was less than appealing. I've seen bats GO THROUGH balls.

Bullshit, that is.
 
Matlock said:
As much as I'd like to be wrong yet again, the gameplay I put into it was less than appealing. I've seen bats GO THROUGH balls.

Bullshit, that is.

Well, that's the first hit detection complaint I've heard. And I've never seen it. But...there it is, I guess.

Have you tried playing with the cursor on so you can make sure you get the whole timing thing?
 
I spent over 4 hours straight playing this game (especially the minigames) with my wife yesterday. It's simple enought that anybody can have fun with it.
 
Also, it's got me thinking -- is there a Mario Football coming by any chance? That would be, seriosuly, the coolest fucking game ever if they did it right.
 
I'm torn between picking this or Ouendan up. My recent Taiko addiction has me dying to import, but this sounds great too!

And then we have Radiata Stories and Burnout 4/Legends in the next two weeks. It begins...
 
John Harker said:
For everyone above discussing Strikers...

I've said it before, but I don't know if I can stress enough how simply FUN the game is.

Couldn't put it down! It was so very fast, responsive, quirky, and this was a few months ago!

Def. my most anticipated Mario sprots title right now, and I was a big Tennis fan.


As far as Baseball is concerned.... they sure got a good comerical!
Im glad to hear that you've enjoyed the game so much. Ive been looking forwards to this game a lot because I like mario and Im obsessed with soccer, so it s a perfect match. i never ahd mcuh doubt that it would ever be bad, Nintendo always does such a good job with the mario sports game. even if you dont like the sport they always seem to make the game good. I never had any liking for golf but I loved Mario golf. I know that I was going to get Mario strikers, but after reading Musashi's impressions about Mario Baseball, i might give it a go
 
Brandon F said:
I'm torn between picking this or Ouendan up. My recent Taiko addiction has me dying to import, but this sounds great too!

I can't deny that Ouendan is a great game. Frustratingly hard at first for me, but great. Reminds me of Gitaroo Man with funnier cut scenes. Mario Baseball is just more accessible and pick up and play fun for me right now, so I'm definitely enjoying it. It's such a great entry into the sports series, I hope it doesn't totally bomb.

I just keep playing one more story level game or one more mini-game. I wish it was online :(
 
I got the game for $35 from Fry's, but I had misgivings after all the reviews...

The game is better than I was expecting. Once you get a hang of the fielding, it's pretty decent.
 
Matlock said:
As much as I'd like to be wrong yet again, the gameplay I put into it was less than appealing. I've seen bats GO THROUGH balls.

Bullshit, that is.

Your timing must be off. We've put in about 10 hours worth of multiplayer already, and I've never once experienced this.

Anytime we miss, it's either because we swung just a fraction too early or late.

Amazing game. I haven't even touched single-player mode yet. We are just having too much fun with the multi.
 
On the in-store demo disc, everytime you strike somebody out, there's this supremely annoying and very Japan-esque sound effect (HIII_EEEEEEEEEE). Is that still in the American version?
 
After spending a few days with the game (on and off) I can safely say that I'm enjoying it much more now than when I first fired it up. It took me a while to get into the groove and its overly simple gameplay mechanics. For starters, I turned on the "easy" batting mode, which I prefer, and it makes the game much more enjoyable. Additionally, the fielding is a little uninspired, but it's functional and that's all I need. I'm wondering how it'll hold up in 2-player, but right now I'm satisfied.
 
Finally got a chance to play this last night - and honestly, i think it sucks.

Maybe I'm just used to Baseball Stars 2, but this game is massively slow all around. The fielding and hit detection sometimes seems way off, the controls seem a bit unresponsive, and it just doesnt feel like I'm playing a baseball game (mostly the fielding). The presentation is decent, but I'm not too crazy about picking individual players as opposed to actual teams.

To each his own I guess, but I'll definetly stick with BS2.
 
robot said:
Maybe I'm just used to Baseball Stars 2, but this game is massively slow all around. The fielding and hit detection sometimes seems way off, the controls seem a bit unresponsive, and it just doesnt feel like I'm playing a baseball game (mostly the fielding). The presentation is decent, but I'm not too crazy about picking individual players as opposed to actual teams..

What's wrong with the fielding? It took me a while to get used to it, but now it seems fairly decent... and I do like the "selecting players" method as it allows each player to build their own team and customize it as they see fit, as opposed to using prebuilt teams.
 
Anyone playing? I'm working on the flower challenge. It's a bit limited but still having a blast trying to get my characters to superstar status. The only thing that I'm still having difficulties is giving instructions to single runners on base on when to steal, go to next base, etc. The only complain I have is I wish there were more stadiums to unlock.

Multiplayer is a blast and the simple setup helps to keep things hectic and exciting. It's a solid game and a good ground work for the following sequels bound to show up later. And I finally hit my first homer with Petey Piranha of all people.
 
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