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Marvel reportedly done with origin films, old Dr. Strange script scrapped and more
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Yeah don't worry, I don't believe this is true at all.
Because Iron Man was the most popular Avenger.
Captain America's overseas gross increased by over 130% from First Avenger to The Winter Soldier. Assuming a modest domestic bump to $300M for Cap 2, The next film would need a 54% boost overseas to hit $1B. Now consider the insane growth happening in China right now. Iron Man 2 grossed $8M in China. Iron Man 3 grossed $121M. Marvel didn't even bother releasing the first Cap in China. The sequel grossed $115M. Avengers itself only grossed $84M in China 2 years ago. China on its own could net $200M for Cap 3 in 2016. Now you are left with 35% growth required in the rest of the overseas territories. Not impossible to accomplish, especially with growing markets in Latin America and South Asia.
In 5 years blockbusters will regularly make more in China than they do here and tons of films will be hitting that $1B mark.
Callibretto
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after reading that origin comic, I really wish Dr Strange is already the sorcerer supreme in Winter Soldier, mainly because it's said Dr Strange spent years learning magic arts and it's more believable that way, do we really want an inexperienced sorcerer supreme in MCU? or a deus ex machina that make him a master of magic within short time?
I'd rather they go Ant-Man approach, start the movie in a past for a little bit, montage of training, and follow the rest of the movie in modern day with him already be the experienced Dr Strange
I'd rather they go Ant-Man approach, start the movie in a past for a little bit, montage of training, and follow the rest of the movie in modern day with him already be the experienced Dr Strange
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Actually, you bring up a very good point. I would suppose beginning the movie with a younger Stephen Strange showing him training and whatnot and eventually receiving his title would be good enough within the first half hour or so and then just cut to him already being Sorcerer Supreme in Greenwich Village and taking it from there. I could see them going a similar route in what they did with Batman Begins too.
Manmademan
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This. The explosive growth overseas pretty much guarantees we'll see Cap 3 or whatever the immediate film is after avengers 2 hit a billion without much effort. Hell, Transformers and IM3 both hit it.
Some of Iron Man 3's (and Transformers 3's) bump was due to 3D premiums that previous entries lacked. That is part of the reason why Cap 2 and Thor 2 didn't have quite the same increase (both of their prequels were available in 3D). Cap 2 likely had the biggest Phase 2 increase if we take that into consideration.
Nealand Liquor
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I really hope they put cap back on ice, I hate that character so much.
Now a REAL Punisher movie is what I want.
Now a REAL Punisher movie is what I want.
GuitarAtomik
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That's exactly what a terrorist Hydra agent would say...
neurosisxeno
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The Cap in Cap1 was not very lovable. At least they embraced the fact he was basically a propoganda machine. By Avengers theyhad made him a much better character, and with Winter Soldier he became one of my favorites. I like him filling the Lawful Good spot in The Avengers, and he rounds out the whole team nicely.
The Punishers. Starring Thomas Jane, directed by Robert Rodriguez. Rated R.
MAKE IT HAPPEN MARVEL.
Filth
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Maddocks
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With that combo its going to make 45 dollars.
neurosisxeno
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I severely doubt it would underperform considering even that crapfest War Zone made $10m. The 2004 Thomas Jane version made $55m against a $30m budget, which isn't terrible considering the time it was released. I imagine with Marvel taking a more hands on approach and a more experienced director they could easily pull off an R rated Punisher movie and pull in north of $100m. If Django Unchained can make $425m as an R rated western in 2012 I have no doubt Punisher could manage a decent showing considering Comic Book adaptations are the most popular they've ever been.
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Darkmakaimura
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They will. There is no way they could have comic version in MCU.I really hope they don't nerf him. But seeing how they've already nerfed a bunch of characters I guess they will
GuitarAtomik
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$10 says the MCU Punisher first shows up as a villain on the Netflix shows.
Father_Brain
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I suspect that Faraci's take on this is at least slightly exaggerated, but yeah, I think there's enough conceptual distance between Strange and what we've previously seen in the MCU to justify a full origin, and I'm not really sold on the idea of retconning him as having been operating under the radar of SHIELD et al for some time. Eh.
DC, I love you dearly, Superman was and still is my favourite superhero of all time, more for what he represents above all.
But for FUCK'S sake I may have been pissed at ditching the red underwear, but taking out Superman's #GetRekt sass is too damn far. Fucking hell DC...you have the goddamn Kryptonite against the MCU by having all your IPs with one studio but you have butterfingers.
What the fuck are you talking about? 0_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v620E6ozrKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4C7IAmiUgs
There are a lot of origins we've already seen like Strange's.
Person takes life/family/job/whatever for granted
Experiences traumatic, life-altering event
Gains/earns new found abilities
Has profound realization about former conceptions of goodness
Selflessly comes to the rescue
Either change the origin or skim it.
Metallix87
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Okay, now that's a pretty interesting argument. Why do you think that? Do you think Chinese interest in Western films is suddenly going to explode?
That and to be recognized as separate from the other comic film universes based on characters published in print by Marvel like the X-Men and Spider-Man.
clay_ghost
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China is allowing more western movies in the market. Plus the average Chinese is getting richer and may be willing to see the movie? Not sure about the 2nd part but China is opening up bit by bit.
Thatoneguy64
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It's already well on its way to happening. As someone quoted earlier in this thread, the Phase 2 movies have made considerably more in China than the Phase 1 films. Iron Man 3 made $121 million in China. Winter Soldier grossed $115 million in China. Compare this to Iron Man 2's $8 million. For further reference, the Avengers only made $84 million in China, making the country one of the very few regions where Iron Man 3 out grossed Avengers. Every other country represents mostly Avengers winning, with very few representing either near-equivalency or a slight advantage for Iron Man 3. Meanwhile China represented a 37% growth in revenue from Avengers to Iron Man 3. China is growing as a movie market and it's growing fast.
Transformers: Age of Extinction made $301 million in China. It only made $243 million domestically. Its $1 billion at the box office is owed pretty heavily to the strength of the Chinese market for blockbusters.
Broken Joystick
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I saw that, felt so bad for her, she was just trying to make a point and got that in return, yeah she might not be 100% clued up but to be honest, no one really is.
Hmm, I wonder, possible Agents Of/S.H.I.E.L.D connection in regards to what happened to Coulson? Perhaps I'm just stretching here.
Backwards Marathon
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I don't care too much about how they approach Dr. Strange as long as Dormammu is the villain.
Darkmakaimura
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IncandescentPrecept
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Uh oh, what will the Marvel fans say if that is true? Plenty of people say that origin stories are needed for an ensemble movie later to be good.
Pai Pai Master
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Nah, we already know what happened with Coulson and we know most of the circumstances regarding his resurrection. Strange had nothing to do with it, it was purely scientific.
jackissocool
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Wow she's actually older than Sackhoff.
EnVy_CaLiBeR
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Certain characters need it and others don't. Heroes like Spider-Man and Batman don't need them because it has been done over and over but characters like Strange where not everyone knows who he is, would benefit from one, IMO.
Man of Steel didn't need one, but I personally enjoyed the way his origin was done in that movie.
Man of Steel didn't need one, but I personally enjoyed the way his origin was done in that movie.
While the Chinese market is huge and growing, the problem is that movies like the Transformers only make 25% on the dollar in China versus 50% of domestic. Action figure blockbusters will need to have co-productions in China to truly rival domestic earnings (40%), and merchandising is another strategic factor as well. But I think Cap 3 will earn more money than Cap 2, however the billion mark is still a high goal.
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