Damn, I have to stop reading Shoryuken forums... it only discourages me. I've been having a lot of fun using just basic combos I came up with myself or copied as well as I could from a stream or something, then I go to the SRK forums and they're talking about bnb's that are crazy hard and involve some serious finger gymnastics, all in the name of doing the most damage you possibly can regardless of execution difficulty... I basically stopped playing SF4 because grinding difficult combos for days and days in training mode is so fucking boring, and even after all that training I was never able to do the combos in an actual match so it was all just wasted time. With MVC3 I'll try not to make the same mistake. Fuck bnb's, fuck what I "should" be doing to maximize my damage, I'll do my own variations that I feel comfortable with and actually have fun practicing. No thank you, X-23 hop combos.