Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread
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I want to see Cable handle some of the characters in Marvel 3.
I think Cable would get washed by Vergil, Wolverine and probably Morrigan in AV but would do fine against the rest. He would have similar match up stats to Hawkeye though better against aggressive due to Scimitar.
I think Cable would get washed by Vergil, Wolverine and probably Morrigan in AV but would do fine against the rest. He would have similar match up stats to Hawkeye though better against aggressive due to Scimitar.
Troubled Bat
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Give me Nightcrawler!
christiankid7
Member
I wish but,
I think it'd be an either/or situation. And Logan is way more popular. If Logan is in, X-23 is out almost completely. If X-23 is in, Logan's chances drop. And I say this as an X-23 fan and main.
On the other hand, it wouldn't take too much work to move her from MVC3 to MVCI so she's probably High
We'll be lucky to see Wolverine/Storm/Magneto/Deadpool
Thinking about it, I was probably generous with Juggernaut anyway
How likely would
Beast
Angel
Toad
Magik
Cannonball
Sunspot
Firestar
Dani Moonstar
Banshee
Havok
Selene
Apocalypse
Sunfire
Blink
Sebastian Shaw
Mr. Sinister
Multiple Man
Mystique
Fantomex
Polaris
Maverick/Agent Zero
be?
Red Arremer
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Even if Wolverine is in, both him and X-23 were in MvC3. She's got a good chance to come back for various reasons - for starters, Marvel is pushing her (in the books at least), and she's a female character.
She also appeared in basically every Marvel game that had the opportunity to have X-Men characters since MvC3, oftentimes before even super important/popular characters.
She also appeared in basically every Marvel game that had the opportunity to have X-Men characters since MvC3, oftentimes before even super important/popular characters.
Skeletos311
Junior Member
Wolverine can be Old Man Logan and X-23 All-New Wolverine.
Red Arremer
Member
The only characters I'd give any sort of chance in your list are Beast, Mystique and maybe Angel, Apocalypse and Magik. Polaris perhaps if they do alt character-based costumes, or bring out some low effort clones.
For Marvel:
-I wanna say Spider-Gwen, but I dunno if she'd be all that different from regular Spidey. So as far as Gwen goes:
1. If Venom's in, then Gwenpoole
2. If not Venom, then Gwenom. And while I'm being idealistic, Deadpool (I know, Fox n' all that.)
-Starlord
-Dr. Strange
-Howard the Duck, just because I'm curious as to what his playstyle would be. As long as there's no duck tits I'm good.
-Black Panther
-Luke Cage
-Daredevil
-Antman and/or The Wasp
Capkapom:
-Sigma, but I'd be down for Dr. Wily
-Dante's superior DMC2 design, with DMC 3 and 4 weapons (Pandora maaaan...)
-Jon Talbain needs more love
-Jedah
-Akira or Hinata (Rival Schools)
-Asura
-RE 4 Leon
-Vanessa from P.N.03
-Viewtiful Joe
-Amatarasu
-Linn Kurosawa or Dutch Schafer
-Captain Commando
-RUBY. HEART.
-Ed Falcon from Power Stone please God.
-Jin Saotome
And of course, all the vets who aren't X Men. Edit: Oh, and Gene from Godhand.
-I wanna say Spider-Gwen, but I dunno if she'd be all that different from regular Spidey. So as far as Gwen goes:
1. If Venom's in, then Gwenpoole
2. If not Venom, then Gwenom. And while I'm being idealistic, Deadpool (I know, Fox n' all that.)
-Starlord
-Dr. Strange
-Howard the Duck, just because I'm curious as to what his playstyle would be. As long as there's no duck tits I'm good.
-Black Panther
-Luke Cage
-Daredevil
-Antman and/or The Wasp
Capkapom:
-Sigma, but I'd be down for Dr. Wily
-Dante's superior DMC2 design, with DMC 3 and 4 weapons (Pandora maaaan...)
-Jon Talbain needs more love
-Jedah
-Akira or Hinata (Rival Schools)
-Asura
-RE 4 Leon
-Vanessa from P.N.03
-Viewtiful Joe
-Amatarasu
-Linn Kurosawa or Dutch Schafer
-Captain Commando
-RUBY. HEART.
-Ed Falcon from Power Stone please God.
-Jin Saotome
And of course, all the vets who aren't X Men. Edit: Oh, and Gene from Godhand.
christiankid7
Member
Only reason I mentioned Polaris was she's so heavily requested in other games (I think she was reasonably high in one of the DLC polls...top 20 maybe?) I just threw out a list of as many X-men characters as I could remember. Tried to fill it with a good bunch of villains too)
I thought about Havok maybe....But I'd say, and this is even being generous. The only likely ones in my list were...
Mystique
Angel
Magik
Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister (as an assistant or part of Apocalypses moves in some way if not his own character, which is even less likely)
IbukiLordSA
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I can only imagine what a fun character Magik would be in a game like this. They have to add her.
Dare I ask why she threw a baby at an eldricth horror and expected it to win?
I'm gonna say I want Doctor Strange cuz... He seems like a cool character?
I think I've said all my capcom picks.BassForever
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Here is my problem with speculating the marvel half of the roster, going just from umvc3 here is the list of mcu characters.
1) Rocket Racoon
2) Ghost Rider
3) Hawk Eye
4) Dr Strange
5) Iron Fist
6) Captain America *
7) Dormammu
8) Iron Man *
9) Thor
10) Spiderman
11) Hulk
* already confirmed
Then you can add Captain Marvel as she was confirmed as well. That brings us to possibly 12 fighters and if we believe the low 30's means 15-18 per side you're left with 3-6 more characters to be included in the base game. Then if you include other mcu characters
Black Widow
War Machine (mvc vet)
Falcon
Antman
Groot
Star Lord
Gamora
Drax
Vision
Ultron (teased)
Loki
Thanos (mvc vet)
Daredevil
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage
Winter Soldier
Scarlet Witch
Quicksilver
Punisher
Electra
Quake
Wasp
Any number of Inhumans who appear in the new show
Right there you have way more then most optimistic 6 characters. This is why I asked who do you cut/exclude yesterday because just off of 100% confirmed for mcu characters you can make an mvc2/3 sized roster yet I see many people here speculating characters that have zero mcu plans to our knowledge. I understand they could include phase 4/5 characters in mvci but how many future tease characters do we really expect in this game?
1) Rocket Racoon
2) Ghost Rider
3) Hawk Eye
4) Dr Strange
5) Iron Fist
6) Captain America *
7) Dormammu
8) Iron Man *
9) Thor
10) Spiderman
11) Hulk
* already confirmed
Then you can add Captain Marvel as she was confirmed as well. That brings us to possibly 12 fighters and if we believe the low 30's means 15-18 per side you're left with 3-6 more characters to be included in the base game. Then if you include other mcu characters
Black Widow
War Machine (mvc vet)
Falcon
Antman
Groot
Star Lord
Gamora
Drax
Vision
Ultron (teased)
Loki
Thanos (mvc vet)
Daredevil
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage
Winter Soldier
Scarlet Witch
Quicksilver
Punisher
Electra
Quake
Wasp
Any number of Inhumans who appear in the new show
Right there you have way more then most optimistic 6 characters. This is why I asked who do you cut/exclude yesterday because just off of 100% confirmed for mcu characters you can make an mvc2/3 sized roster yet I see many people here speculating characters that have zero mcu plans to our knowledge. I understand they could include phase 4/5 characters in mvci but how many future tease characters do we really expect in this game?
The baby is Elsa, so presumably her father expected her to at least survive.
lucebuce12
Member
Because Spidergwen in particular is really popular right now.
And Gwenpool is a very good replacement for Deadpool.
TheDinoman
Member
I still don't like this idea of "replacing" characters, especially since Ryce already said the X-Men and FF characters will most likely come as DLC along the way.
Actually they are both pretty popular rn, and much fun characters. I really expect both of them.
Red Arremer
Member
Spider-Gwen turned out to be insanely popular and is being massively pushed by Marvel, and Gwenpool is an offshoot of of Spider-Gwen's popularity; she's Marvel's replacement for Deadpool, essentially, and is also proving to be fairly popular.
As such, it's very possible, if not likely, for either or both making it into MvCI. Especially if the Fox ban affects the MvCI starting roster - Gwenpool would make for a good character to inherit Deadpool's moveset.
I'm gonna say I want Doctor Strange cuz... He seems like a cool character?
Strange was in MvC3 and is going to be big in the MCU. He's all but confirmed to be back at this point.
He'd fight top tier well snipe them with AHVB not shit tier match ups.
Man I hope Nero is in this new game.
Red Arremer
Member
There always is the option to go for clones. If Gwenpool is in the base game and Deadpool comes in as DLC, there's plenty of options to differentiate them from another even if Gwenpool were to inherit the lion's share of Deadpool's moves.
They managed to do it with Wolverine and X-23, I'm sure they can handle characters with a much larger pool (no pun intended) for variety.
This is me, all over.
The most exciting thing about Infinite for me, at least at the moment, is that at least the mutants won't be a part of the base roster. With them gone, it effectively gives a chance for other Marvel characters to get in, as opposed to at least six slots being locked down because the mutants "must" be there. That's a large reason why MvC3 disappointed me so much.
Frankly, and I know it won't a popular opinion, I'd be just fine if the DLC deal just meant the bare minimum of Wolverine, Deadpool and Doom (as much as I love F4 chars) to give the Marvel side a chance to continue introducing other chars from their stable.
Sure, it's possible Gwenpool could get in on her own merits. However, the only reason she has been such a big topic of conversation is because we expected the X-men/FF ban to completely stop Deadpool from appearing, and she could be a replacement like in one of Marvel mobile games. But if what Ryce says comes true, then it's very likely that Deadpool will be one of the characters, and that would remove the need for a replacement.
Already Torn
Banned
I honestly think all new X-Men characters have basically a 0% chance as DLC unless DLC goes on for a looooooong time. I'd expect both Wolverine and X23 before we see Beast or Mystique for example.
Same goes for FF characters that aren't Dr. Doom or Super Skrull.
I'm sure Spider-Man will be a shoo-in, but I would love to see Miles Morales in the game. And not as a palette swap or alternate costume, but Miles Morales himself. In the comics, him & Peter have different styles when it comes to fighting. Miles has a venom blast & can camouflage himself, for example. And it'd be a great way to introduce him to people who may not know about him.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
I actually thought about this it definitely does seem like a roster like this could be entirely made up of people in the MCU. Seems like you gotta be a character Marvel really wants to push to get in.
I have to be completely honest, I never cared about X-Men so the fact that they're out doesn't bother me (just kind of weird).
Miles Morales is probably guaranteed to be at least a palette due to his popularity and the fact that he's now a part of the main universe. I'm not sure whether his fighting style would justify a brand new character that stylistically isn't all too different from the original (some people will point to Bone Claw Wolverine from MvC2 but those were different times and that was a game that had incredibly cheap resources). DLC might be possible.
The problem I have with this supposition is Gwenpool isn't a Deadpool "replacement". People think this because of her name and vaguely similar costume, and while it's true that she was originally a cover parody, the character itself has become something of a breakout hit on her own, which I think is the real reason why people want to see her. Her moveset would probably be nothing like Deadpool because they don't have similar abilities or characteristics. Deadpool is a super talented, regenerative, nigh unkillable merc while Gwenpool is an average jane only assuming the guise of a hero so she doesn't get herself killed as an extra. She could easily be the middleground of B.B. Hood, Captain Commando and Norimaro, where she relies on raw weaponry, assists and bumbling attacks to get by, and in a game that has effectively removed assists, making some characters embody them is a more viable concept. In an MvC format, it'd be more accurate to call her Marvel's counterpart to Phoenix Wright, gameplay-wise. I think most people who know of her want to see her because she's a recent, legitimately fun and popular character, and her gameplay would be incredibly unique.
Miles Morales is probably guaranteed to be at least a palette due to his popularity and the fact that he's now a part of the main universe. I'm not sure whether his fighting style would justify a brand new character that stylistically isn't all too different from the original (some people will point to Bone Claw Wolverine from MvC2 but those were different times and that was a game that had incredibly cheap resources). DLC might be possible.
The problem I have with this supposition is Gwenpool isn't a Deadpool "replacement". People think this because of her name and vaguely similar costume, and while it's true that she was originally a cover parody, the character itself has become something of a breakout hit on her own, which I think is the real reason why people want to see her. Her moveset would probably be nothing like Deadpool because they don't have similar abilities or characteristics. Deadpool is a super talented, regenerative, nigh unkillable merc while Gwenpool is an average jane only assuming the guise of a hero so she doesn't get herself killed as an extra. She could easily be the middleground of B.B. Hood, Captain Commando and Norimaro, where she relies on raw weaponry, assists and bumbling attacks to get by, and in a game that has effectively removed assists, making some characters embody them is a more viable concept. In an MvC format, it'd be more accurate to call her Marvel's counterpart to Phoenix Wright, gameplay-wise. I think most people who know of her want to see her because she's a recent, legitimately fun and popular character, and her gameplay would be incredibly unique.
Red Arremer
Member
I, and I'd argue most other people, don't consider Jessica to be part of the Spider family, despite her name. She's about as much part of the Spider-Man franchise as Black Widow is. In fact, Black Widow is more of a Spider-Man character than Spider-Woman, since in her early days as Soviet spy, she fought Spidey a few times.
I think one of the reasons why Spider-Woman doesn't get a lot of attention is partially because she is very difficult to realize as a playable character. While she has flight and strength and her venom blasts (which are basically stun rays), her main power is her pheromones with which she can affect her opponents' behaviour.
For stuff like fighting games, this is kind of hard to turn into something workable.
In RPGs it's easier to do (cause there you can have charm or fear effects, and stun is a more viable mechanic).
I hear what you're saying, but in my opinion, it be an incredible disservice to the character if he's just an alternate costume. If Marvel & Capcom are working as closely as reports say they are, then Marvel will no doubt what Miles to be unique & I'm sure Capcom can get creative with his moveset.
DryvBy
Member
Miles was actually gonna be his own separate character in UMvC3 (he was one of the 8 characters that they were planning on adding but couldn't due to time constraints). And unlike, say, Spider-Gwen, Miles actually has a few powers that Peter doesn't have (Ex: Venom Sting, invisibility, etc.).
Red Arremer
Member
Source?
Smooth Operator
Member
A man can dream
For the time being, the closest you'll get is Captain Marvel (I mean, Rogue did steal her powers back in the 90's).A man can dream
sixteen-bit
Member
Cool I hope time constraints don't exclude him from MvCI
BassForever
Member
Exactly, people keep throwing out potential Marvel rosters or Marvel dlc for largely non mcu characters and I think that mindset is just gonna burn a lot of people. Even if certain characters are getting a comic push if Marvel has no plans to bring them to the big screen or even tv in the next 5ish years I don't think they have a realistic shot of being considered. DLC opens the gates a bit but even there I imagine it'll be legacy mvc characters or popular mcu characters who didn't make the base game.
With Frank Tieri back in the fold, he could very well try again in pushing for Miles in MvCI. Plus it'd be awesome to have him & Kamala on a team (assuming that Kamala gets in, which I'd be shocked if she didn't).
I really wish we got more info on what happened with Dock Ock.
Red Arremer
Member
Cool. Do we know the other characters that didn't make the cut?
Not really. One could infer that Doc Ock was one of the 8 due to his data being found in Vanilla MvC3, but we don't have anyone from MvC3's development backing it up.
Though you also have to consider rising stars in the comics like Ms. Marvel.
BassForever
Member
Sure you could, but that goes to my question which current mcu characters do you cut for someone who's getting a comic push only?
At this point, I'm pretty sure Marvel has plans to introduce Kamala into the MCU (be it in the movies or the shows).
AdmiralMikey
Member
I see a lot of X-Men discussion being thrown around, and understandably so. However, I'd much rather see an influx of X-Men who have either never been in an MvC game, or go back to characters that were left out of MvC3...
In other words, please bring back Gambit. He was my main character in Xmen vs. Streetfighter, MvC1 and MvC2. I missed him so much in MVC3. I don't care about the other X-Men, just please let me spam Kinetic Cards again. Don't mess with the Cajun!
In other words, please bring back Gambit. He was my main character in Xmen vs. Streetfighter, MvC1 and MvC2. I missed him so much in MVC3. I don't care about the other X-Men, just please let me spam Kinetic Cards again. Don't mess with the Cajun!
Either way, it'll be a while before we hear about the X-Men DLC, so there's time to let out voices be heard. And since Marvel couldn't care less about promoting the Fox movies, the Fox characters may be more likely to be prone to fan demand.
I've come to terms that I won't get cable back. Not the cable I grew to love.
How would you solve ahvb? Make it 2 meters? Can't combo into itself?
Ahvb that can't combo into itself sounds weird (but it could have incredible new interactions in a new game)
BassForever
Member
But do you think she gets in over Blackbolt? How many Inhumans do you think make a 16-18 Marvel size roster if they're only getting a TV show in the near future? The Inhumans movie has been indefinitely delayed and may happen in Phase 4. I agree if we get two Inhumans it'll be her and Blackbolt I just have a hard time seeing two Inhumans getting into the base game when Marvel has already shown that they aren't a high priority for getting a film in the MCU.
TotalMackerel
Member
I want Nightcrawler too but I worry that since there seems to be an infinity stone that gives teleportation type powers we might not see him
Xamtheking
Member
Kamala has easily conveyable personality
BB does not