Unspeakable Evil
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Rocket has his own book with a variant too. But hey Rocket and Groot are both technically in the game so eh.
Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread
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direct_quote
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Where are you getting the 40 number from?
Doubt it. I sure hope not.
Jawmuncher
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EVIL COLE RETURNS
Pieman0920
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I think you're missing that Rocket's got a book in there with its own variant cover.
Out of all of the covers there, Groot's could be the biggest wildcard, since it isn't Groot. Its probably tangentially related to him. Since the game is 2v2, I think it could be a cosmic villain like Ronan to sort of give Thanos a partner. Then again, it could be Gamora (who's playstyle probably would be quite different from any of the other speculated Marvel characters) who could team up with a pottential Rocket, Star-Lord, or Thanos. Maybe Captain Marvel too really. Or it could be Shuma-Gorath. Who knows.
While I don't see the solicits for August in full, one thing that is somewhat odd is the Defenders variant. Daredevil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, and Punisher, who are the members of the Defenders for this book all have their own ongoings, so maybe whomever gets represented on that cover actually isn't them. Then again Captain America isn't for his own book, and is probably either for Secret Empire or Avengers.
To that end, outside of the X-Men/FF, looking at the July solicits as a reference, there are a bunch of books that would get characters if those characters were in, but it appears that isn't the case. Squirrel Girl, Gwenpool, Nick Fury, Wasp (Ant-Man would probably go here), the Inhumans, the Secret Warriors, Ms. America. Ms. Marvel's book is also skipped, but if anyone's representing Champions its probably her. Miles would be under his own book, which does have a variant.
Also, since these are August solicits, regardless if 3 of these are for DLC, we'll know at least 20 (maybe 40) of the roster before September....then again they could just have variants reuse characters.
If you extrapolate characters from those comic covers alongside what we have already... you get close to 20 per side.
Marvel:
Iron Man
Captain America
Captain Marvel
Hulk
Thor
Antman
Ultron
Rocket Raccoon
Hawkeye
Daredevil
Ms Marvel
Dr Strange
Spider Man
Deadpool
Venom
Black Widow
Black Panther
Star Lord
Thanos
And you can throw in one like Dormammu, Iron Fist, Punisher, Gwenpool that fits one of the covers.
The characters I listed is the most predictable list ever and would not be surprised if I got like 70%-80% right.
Jawmuncher
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3 females on the marvel side. Geez, capcom gonna have to pick up the slack if you have a roster of 40. You'd need at least 7 more to keep the 1/4 ratio rule (Which is a sad trend among most fighters).
Undead Fantasy
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Wait what?
This was to be expected, they aren't to many high profile/female characters on MCU side that trump equivalent male counterparts. That's why X Men were so good in filling the diversity quota, you had characters like Storm, Phoenix, X23, Psylocke, Mystique, Rogue, Scarlet Witch, Emma Frost etc. And they all have cool abilities you can make into a FG character or pull from previous VS games.
Also its possible that Gwenpool, Hela, She Hulk, Medusa, Elektra and Songbird can make it in but that's still stretching it. These characters aren't as popular as something like Thanos, Strange, Antman and Black Panther who have their own dedicated movies and comic series.
7 females from Capcom side? Chun Li, Tron Bonne, Morrigan, Felicia, Trish/Lady, Jill/Ada, Nina, Amaterasu, Regina, Viper. And this is still stretching it with characters like Nina and Regina in there.
Damn shame Capcom doesn't tap interesting female movesets from Nilin, Tessa and Vanessa.
You realize that Deadpool's also X-Men, right?
So? I am making hypothesis based on information given. I know there are leaks but that's all they are is leaked information ... we don't have 100% confirmation that Deadpool won't be in the roster.
Unless some insider here wants to slap my ass down with a direct leak saying Deadpool/Gwenpool won't be in the roster.
Well we had Sneakers saying no Fox 'till 2018, & Deadpool is Fox. You can put two & two together. As for Gwenpool, if Capcom was already pushing for Fox DLC at the time, why render Deadpool redundant?
Yeah, Rocket & Groot are one character in MvCI, yet both books are getting variant covers.
Sneakers works for Marvel/Capcom and made an official announcement of there being no FOX characters in 2017?
All of this is still unconfirmed info and leaked. I don't deny that Sneakers may havr legit info.. but info can change and it's possible that Marvel/Capcom can sneak one of the FOX characters in early.
Deadpool is essentially made already in Marvel 3, I bet they have him playable as we speak. It's all about timing really.
All of this is still unconfirmed info and leaked. I don't deny that Sneakers may havr legit info.. but info can change and it's possible that Marvel/Capcom can sneak one of the FOX characters in early.
Deadpool is essentially made already in Marvel 3, I bet they have him playable as we speak. It's all about timing really.
That's not really how it works. The roster is usually nailed down before development starts, especially for crossovers like this. Plus there's the story mode to consider.
And besides, if any Fox character is gonna sneak into the base roster, it'll likely be Wolverine. The already playable argument can also apply to any Fox character from UMvC3.
Undead Fantasy
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I'm out of the loop. What covers?
Jawmuncher
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What if it's Logan style wolverine instead
This argument only works if we know the full roster.
We don't know the full roster. Hence we don't know what can be changed and what can't. We are only working off of leaked information, not actual information.
Until Marvel/Capcom come out and confirm that there will be no FOX characters in 2017, then the possibility cannot be ruled out with 100% certainty.
You're right about not having 100% certainty, but at the same time, we already have multiple sources pointing in the no Fox on Day 1 thing.
But just to be clear, even though I made peace with it, I would love it if we got at least Wolverine or Deadpool on Day 1.
Doctrine Dark
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Shocker and Vulture are enemies in the upcoming movie.
I doubt either will be on the roster, though. Spidey has more popular villains.
I doubt either will be on the roster, though. Spidey has more popular villains.
TRUE ORDER
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It seems that there won't be great female representation from the Marvel side, not that surprising though taking in account that almost all of them were X-Men in 3.
So, does anyone know if the CE is Gamestop exclusive? Since is the only shop that has it as of now...
So, does anyone know if the CE is Gamestop exclusive? Since is the only shop that has it as of now...
Jawmuncher
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The steel book or the one with the figures? Best Buy has the one with the figures
TRUE ORDER
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Thanks!
I'll wait if amazon puts it up and maybe use Prime.
Not surprising considering that most of the awesome females are on the Fox side of things. That said, outside of Carol, Kamala, & Natasha, there's also Gamora, She-Hulk, Squirrel Girl, Songbird, Dagger (w/ Cloak), Quake, Jessica Jones, Mantis, Phyla-Vell, Moondragon, Misty Knight, Elektra, Medusa, Crystal, & a bunch of others.
It's not surprising really, but I'll be really annoyed if his returning means we don't get a more old school villain that's never had a chance to get in.
I don't even care if it's not Doc Ock at this point, since Brainiac in Injustice 2 gives me the villain with tentacles fix. Just anyone else besides or in addition to Venom (or Carnage), please. With all his crazy unique villains, getting an "evil" variant of Spider-Man would be so disappointing. l'll be content with just one old school villain at this point. It's all I really want out of the whole roster.
Jawmuncher
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People always downplaying venom, when he's been getting the short end of the stick for years.
What do you mean?
Jawmuncher
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Got shafted in Spider-Man 3. Wasn't even Eddie Brock venom for the longest in the comics recently. Cut from MVC3. Like at the end of the day, he's the most popular spidey villain for a reason. So I'm glad to see him potentially coming back and the comics finally focusing back on him. Dunno about that movie though.
There seems to be a lot of venom hate due to his popularity and people not wanting to let go I guess.
It's all personal taste, but other Spider-Man villains have a much longer and more storied history with the character, and never got into the series at all, which is arguably a bigger disservice than just not getting into MvC3. Actually, Doc Ock, not Venom, was the one that got cut from MvC3. That's an even more raw deal. They don't need to keep a character just because they were in previous games. They had their chance already. Also, there's a reason the Green Goblin and Doc Ock were picked as the big villains in the first two movies.
Motion Picture Soundtrack
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I'm pretty on the fence in terms of liking Venom, but he can be cool when done right. I'd be fine with him returning just because I'm a stickler for fluid morphing animations. I'd rather have other Spidey villains first though - Mysterio, Doc Ock, Goblin or Sandman would be much more hype.
Pieman0920
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Venom has always had problems, because the writers could never settle on him being an actual villain or a anti-hero since he was so popular. He started off as a villain, but people liked him so much that he had to show up more which meant he couldn't always be evil. Carnage was probably a compromise to have a villain version again, but as time went on, Venom went back to being evil, then good, then changed hosts and yada yada yada.
Still, at least he got into a Vs. Game unlike the other Spidey villains.
Still, at least he got into a Vs. Game unlike the other Spidey villains.
AWizardDidIt
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I loved Venom when I was 13.
tbh the Agent Venom storyline was the best thing they ever did with the symbiote. They're apparently having it move back to Eddie Brock in the comics which is a terrible idea imo but whatever.
tbh the Agent Venom storyline was the best thing they ever did with the symbiote. They're apparently having it move back to Eddie Brock in the comics which is a terrible idea imo but whatever.
christiankid7
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I really don't see Octopus not making it in since he was being worked on for 3. Then again, maybe he wasn't as far into development as I'm thinking?
I don't know if I'd say I would want other Spider-man characters more than Venom, but I do think there's room for at least 2 Spider-man villain/allies.
I wonder how Venom would play. Would Capcom keep him similar to MVC1 and 2 or would he play completely different?
I don't know if I'd say I would want other Spider-man characters more than Venom, but I do think there's room for at least 2 Spider-man villain/allies.
I wonder how Venom would play. Would Capcom keep him similar to MVC1 and 2 or would he play completely different?
If they keep Josh Keaton as Spider-Man, I wonder if they'll get Benjamin Diskin (who some of you remember as Young Joseph Joestsr & Numbuh One) as Venom if he gets in. Same for Doc Ock's Spectacular VA (since I'd imagine that he was the VA for UMvC3 Doc Ock during development) if he gets in.
Eddie Brock, you mean. Like any popular super hero comic character, their identity changes. It comes with the territory. He was Venom for almost two decades. There's only so much you can do with a popular character, a villain especially, without changing them up. Anyway, besides the comics, Brock is Venom in almost every adaption from movies to cartoons to games.
The Broken Ska Record
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Eddie isn't entirely a villain anymore. More of an anti-hero. Mac Gargan was straight villain though.
"God's Beard!"
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Venom is the Evil Ryu of the Marvel universe.
Hopefully Insomniac's Spidey costume
This. Akuma is the better comparison.
Also, canon is one "n", sorry! that's the one common mistake that actually causes me to physically twitch. Cannon is a seige weapon. But I agree with you!
I love Ock's Spectacular voice but that voice goes with a very specific design.
Agent Venom deserves it more. I'll only touch Eddie if he has an Anti-Venom skin.
Doctrine Dark
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I'd like to see Venom's moveset changed up a good amount.
Some stuff (Venom Bite, Venom Web, etc) I'd like to see return, but I want him to have much more this time around.
Some stuff (Venom Bite, Venom Web, etc) I'd like to see return, but I want him to have much more this time around.