I wouldn't get your hopes up too high for Deadpool just yet.
Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread
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20 covers. 2 sides.
20x2 = 40.
I assume the covers probably have a Capcom character as well.
You're right, Flash does have actual character.
Based on the variant covers, my guesses for the 20 are...
* = Maybe we could get Doc Ock on the TASM cover while Peter could be on the Spidey/Deadpool cover if each comic has a separate character, but I feel like Spider-Man/Deadpool & either Rocket or Groot's books could have duplicates (seeing as Rocket & Groot are one character in MvCI).
- Iron Man
- Captain Marvel
- Captain America
- Thor
- Hulk
- Hawkeye
- Ultron
- Rocket Raccoon & Groot
- Star-Lord
- Spider-Man
- Black Panther
- Ms. Marvel
- Venom
- Black Widow
- Thanos
- Miles Morales
- Doctor Strange
- Daredevil
- Ant-Man
- Doctor Octopus*
* = Maybe we could get Doc Ock on the TASM cover while Peter could be on the Spidey/Deadpool cover if each comic has a separate character, but I feel like Spider-Man/Deadpool & either Rocket or Groot's books could have duplicates (seeing as Rocket & Groot are one character in MvCI).
When did we decide Rocket & Groot were one character?
On top of the footage we got on Twitter & Facebook, Ryce already hinted that Groot would be part of someone else's moveset. Now we know that it's Rocket.
Doctrine Dark
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I could already see Miles' inclusion pissing people off. I like Miles, but I hope he doesn't take up a slot.
As mentioned before, he was planned to be in UMvC3 & was likely one of the 8 cut characters that Niitsuma mentioned (alongside Mega Man X & Gene). Plus he's probably Marvel's biggest new character right now, with Ms. Marvel being in 2nd.
Miles does have some of his own powers, so he wouldn't be a total clone of Peter.
Doctrine Dark
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Yeah, but Niitsuma's team isn't working on this game. Their original vision doesn't need to align with the team working on Infinite.
I know he can be differentiated, but I'm sure people would still hate it.
I know he can be differentiated, but I'm sure people would still hate it.
It's more of the idea that Marvel pushed for Miles & he was almost gonna get in. I'd imagine that they'd want to push for him, again. And with Kid Nova never catching on along with other Champions either being too obscure or caught in the Fox web, Miles & Ms. Marvel may be Marvel's only shot at having a Champions team in MvCI. Sony's animated movie featuring Miles (plus the new cartoon that supposedly has Miles as a main character alongside Peter & Spider-Gwen) helps matters, too. Granted, it's not MCU, but Sony Pictures & Marvel are buddy-buddy.
Basically, he'd be the X-23 to Peter's Wolverine.
DerekOfTheDykes
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It would also be a nice way around people wanting a refreshed Spider-Man moveset.
Have Peter with the classic MvC Spidey moveset, then Miles Morales as the new, more unique and specialized kit.
Have Peter with the classic MvC Spidey moveset, then Miles Morales as the new, more unique and specialized kit.
I am sure they wont add generic mcu character to this. If they want sword girl it would be gamora insteadi hope they had the foresight to add MCU Valkyrie to the starting line up
Miles should be costume. replace him with deadpool fuck that fox shanigans. Then we still are lack on villains like Loki. I also wanted punisher or good moveset ghost rider
also never ever silver surfer
Doctrine Dark
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Like, I can understand the logic behind pushing him, but I don't see many people being receptive to it. Seeing two Spider-Men will be annoying enough for them to consider him a wasted slot even if he is different. They'd be better off just using Spider-Man villains over Miles.
I am pretty sure capcom said they could care less about mcu or any movie related thing. If they want to make that character and think he she is cool they will make it. Not for sake of oh we have a show quick make a character for it type f thing. Thats for mobile games and mmos.
Then I guess you could swap out Doc Ock for Loki & have Peter do double-duty on both ASM & Spidey/Deadpool. As for Miles, his comic has a MvCI variant, so there's that (plus, as mentioned earlier, he was supposed to be his own character in UMvC3).Miles should be costume. replace him with deadpool fuck that fox shanigans. Then we still are lack on villains like Loki. I also wanted punisher or good moveset ghost rider
also never ever silver surfer
Concerning the Fox shenanigans, if they're gonna make an exception for anyone, it'd probably be Wolverine in light of his perfect attendance.
Then who would be on the cover of Miles' book?
Who knows.maybe he will have some cross over in that book so him/her maybe
Or his premium costume
I dont know after logan wolverine is quite dead movie side for a long time. Deadpool while is hot shit and works much better in game in side of "comic" lol relief
JB-the-Hunter
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This
Give me Daisy or give me death.
Pieman0920
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I doubt there are going to be characters pulling double duty for variants. There's enough variants as there is, so why expand it from 18/19 to 20 just one time? Why not make extra variants for those extra Avengers books or give one more variant for Captain America's book where you have Captain America?
Incidentally, I think there pretty much has to be a second Thor related character with the two Thor related covers, and that it doesn't really have the potential to be something random like what Groot's could represent.
Also, I now think it might be hasty to think that the Thanos book means Thanos. It could actually end up being Ultron's variant cover, leading to the Avengers cover being free (Since Ultron only makes sense there otherwise...or potentially Secret Empire, but that just kicks Cap to Avengers)
Edit: If Miles isn't in, then the cover to his book would probably be a Spider-Man related villain. Heck, we could end up with Spidey, Doc Ock, Venom, and Black Cat for the Spider-Man representation.
Incidentally, I think there pretty much has to be a second Thor related character with the two Thor related covers, and that it doesn't really have the potential to be something random like what Groot's could represent.
Also, I now think it might be hasty to think that the Thanos book means Thanos. It could actually end up being Ultron's variant cover, leading to the Avengers cover being free (Since Ultron only makes sense there otherwise...or potentially Secret Empire, but that just kicks Cap to Avengers)
Edit: If Miles isn't in, then the cover to his book would probably be a Spider-Man related villain. Heck, we could end up with Spidey, Doc Ock, Venom, and Black Cat for the Spider-Man representation.
DerekOfTheDykes
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I mean, to be fair, who would be on Groot's cover? We're all so quick to assume that Groot's cover will be a different, related Guardians character. The same COULD be true of Miles' book.
EDIT: We're also assuming that every cover would be a different, unique character. I mean, the general speculation could fit a healthy 20-character Marvel roster, but for all we know both Rocket and Groot covers will feature Rocket/Groot, and Spidey may be on all three Spider-Man covers. I think it's more likely that each is a unique character, but I wouldn't consider it a guarantee.
It's not like Marvel gives a fuck about promoting the Fox movies.
In terms of Groot, that's the source of my double-duty theory. I completely forgot about the 2nd Thor book, so I guess you could swap Doc Ock for Loki in that case......unless Doc Ock is on the Miles book, then replace Miles with Doc Ock.
Based off rumors and blatantly obvious ones, the following matches appear likely:
Leaving these covers up in the air
Ant-Man, Black Widow, and Doc Ock have all been tossed out there. None of these 3 actually have an ongoing of their own now. The key may be less a "universe" match and more "this is a book of someone else who's in the cast and had a cover to spare"- Groot/Rocket's second cover might be for someone almost totally unrelated.
Unspeakable Evil
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Shrugs why wouldn't I Am Groot cover be reason for Groot. He's not playable but he's still in the game. 
If that's the case, then Ant-Man could get the Groot cover by virtue of your "spare cover for someone unrelated" theory, with Black Widow possibly getting Spider-Man/Deadpool. As for Mighty Thor, that could go to Loki.
He'd already be on the variant cover for Rocket.Shrugs why wouldn't I Am Groot cover be reason for Groot. He's not playable but he's still in the game.
how about if she looked more like her original comics version?
bet you'd be OK with that
Doctrine Dark
Member
I'm hoping the other Thor rep is Loki.
Pieman0920
Member
Given what books that Marvel didn't pick to have variants, I kind of doubt now that the Groot cover could be Ant-Man in that I don't think Ant-Man is going to be part of these variants at all. While Ant-Man doesn't have an ongoing book right now, Wasp does, so if he was going to be thrown in anywhere it would be on that.
Black Widow's kind of weird though. One would think they wouldn't represent her with a random Spider-Man book, but rather one of the Avengers books. Outside of the mainline book, there are others out there like Occupy Avengers, which they could probably use for her instead Spider-Man/Deadpool or I am Groot. To that end, I think she would only get in if Thanos is in fact not in. And by that, I mean that Ultron is on the cover of the Thanos book, and Black Widow is on the cover of the main line Avengers.
Ant-Man, Loki, Doc Ock, Black Widow for those last 4 slots would make sense, none have their own ongoing at the moment.
The key would be that Wasp isn't in the game, so taking a cover from her for a game she's not in would look absolutely awful.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Thanks.
PullumPurna
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I really hope the Marvel side has its great share of female characters. There are so many great ones for them to choose, with great and creative powers that would translate very well in fighting games.
I also hope Capcom brings different characters to the mix and surprises us with their choices. Pink Ostrich would be so niiiiiiice!
I also hope Capcom brings different characters to the mix and surprises us with their choices. Pink Ostrich would be so niiiiiiice!
Pieman0920
Member
Well Jane Foster is probably not in, but her book is being used. If Deadpool isn't in, then half of his book is being used as well. And Groot's not playable, but his book is being used.
Edit: Oh yeah, and in your speculation, you didn't include Miles for his own book.
I'm pretty sure we're getting Black Widow, Marvel wouldn't hear the end of it from their female fans if they didn't (plus, as I said in the past, it would explain why Chun-Li was recast). As for Thanos, since the 2017 Character Pass is only newcomers, the base roster would be Thanos' best shot at getting in before Infinity War happens if the 2018 pass mostly has Fox characters. Also, Ant-Man was not only leaked by two news sites, but is also absent from Hawkeye's Level 3.
As for the Spider-Man book, it's really between Doc Ock & Miles Morales in my opinion.
If it's Loki, he's at least part of her supporting cast, same w/ Miles and Doc Ock (didn't realize that was his book). Groot is playable, though! Rocket/Groot are one character.
Yeah, I highly doubt that every cover is going to have a direct correlation with a playable character that's going to be in the roster. I think it's just an opportunity to buy mindshare amongst comic book readers and just for fun in general. I'm sure people will get pissed off when they get the expectation that the character(s) on a cover must be in the game. I'm just tempering my own.
Though most of them have blatantly obvious correlations, hence the lists we're making. The only reason that Spider-Man/Deadpool isn't as obvious is because of the whole Fox situation. And concerning the Spider-Man book, as I said a few posts ago, it's likely between Miles Morales & Doc Ock. But at the same time, that could tie into your point of the variant cover not having a direct correlation with the book.
Pieman0920
Member
Wait a tick, I thought that the 2017 DLC characters thing being newcomers was a rumor. Where is it confirmed that they're all newcomers?
Technically speaking, the team isn't beholden to the movies (even if its pretty clear that they kind of are cross promoting) so Thanos doesn't need to get in before Infinity War, and could likely be released along side it, regardless of rumors regarding Fox characters
NeonZ
Member
A Spider villain. He still doesn't have a proper rogue gallery of his own. Although, yeah, it'll probably be Miles and the villain will be in Spider-man/Deadpool's cover, since Deadpool likely won't be in.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
They literally confirmed that in the trailer.
The 2017 Character Pass mention all-new DLC characters, the exact same wording used for the SFV 2017 Character Pass.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
He's not. In fact Miles has never crossed paths with Ock.
Also random stuff about the covers. The Hawkeye and Ironman for those books are aren't in this game. Also, you don't need Defenders to advertise DD because he has his own series.
But Daredevil's solo isn't amongst the variants. Likewise, Champions has a variant, but Ms. Marvel's solo book doesn't.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
I'm gonna be honest saying Champions=Ms Marvel and Defenders=Daredevil gonna is kinda of reach for character speculation. If these variants are for characters in the game why not use their solo titles instead of their team books?
Pieman0920
Member
Hmm, I guess the All New Characters thing was there on the slide with Sigma. I kept on checking the official website where they don't really talk about the DLC characters at all. I know its written there, but for some reason I don't trust that to mean new to Vs. series, but I won't argue against it.
Defenders is weird. Every member of the Defenders team has their own ongoing, so perhaps that variant could turn out to be a wildcard and not be Daredevil or Iron Fist or any of the main cast at all. But then again it might not, since Captain America is confirmed, and he's not on his own solo book.
Defenders is weird. Every member of the Defenders team has their own ongoing, so perhaps that variant could turn out to be a wildcard and not be Daredevil or Iron Fist or any of the main cast at all. But then again it might not, since Captain America is confirmed, and he's not on his own solo book.
Then which other champion would it be? Kid Nova? Viv Vision? And besides, Ms. Marvel's the leader of the team.I'm gonna be honest saying Champions=Ms Marvel and Defenders=Daredevil gonna is kinda of reach for character speculation. If these variants are for characters in the game why not use their solo titles instead of their team books?
As for Defenders, it could be any one of the four, so you have a point there.