The Scrivener
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A colleague is headed off to Japan for work soon, shit. I'm doomed. At least I stocked up on porridge oats this morning, and loo roll too.
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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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Smiles and Cries
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| OTHER PLACES | Cases | Deaths | Notes | Links |
| Diamond Princess | 705 | 4 | 36 serious, 10 recovered | Source |
| South Korea | 1,766 | 13 | 13 serious, 5 critical, 24 recovered | Source |
| Italy | 453 | 12 | 19 serious, 3 recovered | Source |
| Japan | 207* | 4 | 13 serious, 32 recovered | Source |
| Iran | 141 | 22 | Source | |
| Singapore | 93 | 0 | 7 critical, 58 recovered | Source |
| Hong Kong | 92 | 2 | 4 critical, 2 serious, 18 recovered | Source |
| United States | 60 | 0 | 6 recovered | Source |
| Thailand | 40 | 0 | 2 serious, 15 recovered | Source |
| Taiwan | 32 | 1 | 5 recovered | Source |
| Malaysia | 22 | 0 | 17 recovered | Source |
| Australia | 23 | 0 | 15 recovered | Source |
| Germany | 26 | 0 | 2 critical, 15 recovered | Source |
| Vietnam | 16 | 0 | 16 recovered | Source |
| UAE | 13 | 0 | 2 serious, 3 recovered | Source |
| United Kingdom | 15 | 0 | 8 recovered | Source |
| France | 18 | 2 | 1 serious, 11 recovered | Source |
| Canada | 12 | 0 | 3 recovered | Source |
| Macau | 10 | 0 | 6 recovered | Source |
| Bahrain | 33 | 0 | Source | |
| Kuwait | 43 | 0 | Source | |
| Iraq | 6 | 0 | Source | |
| Philippines | 3 | 1 | 2 recovered | Source |
| India | 3 | 0 | 3 recovered | Source |
| Russia | 2 | 0 | 2 recovered | Source |
| Spain | 14 | 0 | 2 recovered | Source |
| Oman | 4 | 0 | Source | |
| Nepal | 1 | 0 | 1 recovered | Source |
| Cambodia | 1 | 0 | 1 recovered | Source |
| Sri Lanka | 1 | 0 | 1 recovered | Source |
| Finland | 2 | 0 | 1 recovered | Source |
| Sweden | 2 | 0 | Source | |
| Belgium | 1 | 0 | 1 recovered | Source |
| Egypt | 1 | 0 | 1 recovered | Source |
| Israel | 2 | 0 | Source | |
| Lebanon | 2 | 0 | Source | |
| Afghanistan | 1 | 0 | Source | |
| Austria | 2 | 0 | Source | |
| Croatia | 3 | 0 | Source | |
| Switzerland | 4 | 0 | Source | |
| Algeria | 1 | 0 | Source | |
| Brazil | 1 | 0 | Source | |
| Greece | 1 | 0 | Source | |
| Pakistan | 2 | 0 | Source | |
| North Macedonia | 1 | 0 | Source | |
| Georgia | 1 | 0 | Source | |
| Norway | 1 | 0 | Source | |
| Romania | 1 | 0 | Source | |
| Denmark | 1 | 0 | Source | |
| Estonia | 1 | 0 | Source | |
| TOTAL | 3,886 | 61 | 106 serious/critical |
Cato
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I am counting on them not cutting their beards. That is the whole reason this is GOOD news instead of just being normal news.
Smiles and Cries
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that shit is super infected RIP
Smiles and Cries
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not sure I'll keep up when this starts to spike in the US
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Ma-Yuan
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The Robert Koch Institute (Germany) who was downplaying this thing just 4 weeks ago now admits its serious says is more deadly then the flu (finally). They more or less advise the nonsense the media is spreading or the government.
www.welt.de
Robert Koch-Institut informiert über neuesten Stand der COVID-19-Verbreitung - Video - WELT
Das neuartige Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2 breitet sich weiter in Europa aus. Auch in Deutschland gibt es immer mehr Fälle. Das Robert Koch-Institut in Berlin informiert in einer Pressekonferenz über die aktuellen Entwicklungen.
Wwg1wga
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indeed...You should check the date on the article you linked to,
January 25,
Smiles and Cries
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Oops
gunslikewhoa
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Congratulate you? Shake your hand?
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Stiflers Mom
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Where in that video do they say this?The Robert Koch Institute (Germany) who was downplaying this thing just 4 weeks ago now admits its serious says is more deadly then the flu (finally). They more or less advise the nonsense the media is spreading or the government.
Robert Koch-Institut informiert über neuesten Stand der COVID-19-Verbreitung - Video - WELT
Das neuartige Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2 breitet sich weiter in Europa aus. Auch in Deutschland gibt es immer mehr Fälle. Das Robert Koch-Institut in Berlin informiert in einer Pressekonferenz über die aktuellen Entwicklungen.
Duallusion
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So... there's no stoping it now, right? Global pandemic?
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SLoWMoTIoN
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If our government really wanted to stop it they'd quarantine/dispose of people and stop all flights for at least 3 months. This can still be stopped yes.
TheKillerStove
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Not that I can see without grinding the world economy to a halt. That said, this thing isnt the end of the world. It'll probably stick around for a year or two, then back to normal.
Smiles and Cries
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Poland and Holland being hinted at waiting for official news posts
bad time for Switch shortages in Japan
bad time for Switch shortages in Japan
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Smiles and Cries
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well Iran reporting in
waiting for Italy they have been quiet so far today
waiting for Italy they have been quiet so far today
Smiles and Cries
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This is too stupid to be true, but Iran did shoot down a Ukraine plane and fessed up later so huge grain of salt
this is the type of conspiracy the internet is best at
this is what happens when a country lies too much even stupid rumors can't be ignored
this is the type of conspiracy the internet is best at
this is what happens when a country lies too much even stupid rumors can't be ignored
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CJY
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There is almost zero interest in any country being completely transparent about their numbers. Strong corporate lobbying will shut down information fast after an initial surge of information. The transparent countries are those that don't rely on tourism and have strong procedures and technology in place to combat this virus... Namely, Korea and Singapore. The countries less-equipped stay quiet.
Italy have agreed to subsidize taxes and bills for the time people are in quarantine. They have to follow through because they made it public. Imagine having to do that for the whole country. They'll be broke. US are fucked if there is a major breakout there. People will get their guns out to prevent themselves being quarantined. FREEDOM!!!
Italy have agreed to subsidize taxes and bills for the time people are in quarantine. They have to follow through because they made it public. Imagine having to do that for the whole country. They'll be broke. US are fucked if there is a major breakout there. People will get their guns out to prevent themselves being quarantined. FREEDOM!!!
Smiles and Cries
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where are Italy's numbers for the day?
Smiles and Cries
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Ma-Yuan
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RKI zu Coronavirus: „Zeitpunkt kann kommen, an dem wir Kontrolle verlieren“ - WELT
Das Coronavirus breitet sich weltweit aus – auch in Deutschland stieg die Zahl der Infizierten. Laut Robert-Koch-Institut ist es wichtig, Zeit zu gewinnen, da bis jetzt weder ein Impfstoff noch ein wirksames Medikament auf dem Markt seien.
Here is a summary.
Insane Metal
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Yeah, this is about to go out of control. I expect all the countries in that list to be in the hundreds, if not thousands, of cases in the next few weeks.
Smiles and Cries
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ok
Smiles and Cries
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I'm starting to believe anyone who does not have numbers are just not testing.
The US cannot test seems fishy, I feel they just don't want to test for whatever reason but they will be pushed to start. And when they do I can't imagine tiny numbers
The US cannot test seems fishy, I feel they just don't want to test for whatever reason but they will be pushed to start. And when they do I can't imagine tiny numbers
If you quarantine you can slow and stop it, but it will tank your economy.
Beter do a Robin Hood and take money from the super rich. At least if the super rich want
to make money the coming years from us
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D-Dude
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ATM there are no infections in my country (Holland), but the infected couple lived very close to our border (and my town) like 40km...
But it is big news here, and people are worried ofc.
There is a local news site I follow,
I live in Holland also, but I bet it’s already here and infecting. As our government seems to be slacking. RIVM (Dutch CDC) says it’s only contagious when you have symptoms... all is fine otherwiseATM there are no infections in my country (Holland), but the infected couple lived very close to our border (and my town) like 40km...
But it is big news here, and people are worried ofc.
There is a local news site I follow,
They must have not followed the news or the medical community.I live near the German border.
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D-Dude
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I live in Holland also, but I bet it’s already here and infecting. As our government seems to be slacking. RIVM (Dutch CDC) says it’s only contagious when you have symptoms... all is fine otherwise
I live near the German border.
I live very close to the border too. Friday is my last day for work, then I have 12 days vacation, including my gf. So, we will live as hermits
I have stocked up for three weeks, after that we will see.
betrayal
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I am aware that some prefer to see the world end as soon as new expected outbreaks have been detected somewhere in the world. But here are the current numbers as statistics divided into China and the rest of the world.
The statistics for China clearly show that the spread of COVID-19 is very well prevented, despite a general R0 value of 1.4 to 4 for this virus (general info about what R0 is: https://www.healthline.com/health/r-nought-reproduction-number). If the figures for China are correct, then China is on the verge of containing the outbreak and bringing the disease under control there. According to the figures from China, the R0 value currently tends to be less than 1, which usually leads to the extinction of the disease.
For the rest of the world there is a slight increase due to the many tests for COVID-19. Compared to China, the rest of the world has a better starting position than China. What they do with it will be seen and it will depend on the actions that countries take.
The WHO now assumes that China has passed the peak of the disease. This is slightly positive, even if the situation is still critical and everything can go to shit within a few days. But right now, this is were we are at.
New confirmed and recovered cases (worldwide):
Development of the number of infections in China and worldwide:
Source: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
The statistics for China clearly show that the spread of COVID-19 is very well prevented, despite a general R0 value of 1.4 to 4 for this virus (general info about what R0 is: https://www.healthline.com/health/r-nought-reproduction-number). If the figures for China are correct, then China is on the verge of containing the outbreak and bringing the disease under control there. According to the figures from China, the R0 value currently tends to be less than 1, which usually leads to the extinction of the disease.
For the rest of the world there is a slight increase due to the many tests for COVID-19. Compared to China, the rest of the world has a better starting position than China. What they do with it will be seen and it will depend on the actions that countries take.
The WHO now assumes that China has passed the peak of the disease. This is slightly positive, even if the situation is still critical and everything can go to shit within a few days. But right now, this is were we are at.
New confirmed and recovered cases (worldwide):
Development of the number of infections in China and worldwide:
Source: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
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jts
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I wouldn't have much of an issue with a stay-at-home period, as long as the government organized supplies distribution and masks and shit for people to come and get them.
As long as there would be a clear goal in mind of halting this virus, and after that new rules and habits could be introduced for travelling, trade and shit.
I just feel like the economy *can't* take the hit so the denial for a social overhaul will continue for as long as humanly possible.
As long as there would be a clear goal in mind of halting this virus, and after that new rules and habits could be introduced for travelling, trade and shit.
I just feel like the economy *can't* take the hit so the denial for a social overhaul will continue for as long as humanly possible.
Because of abnormal actionsI am aware that some prefer to see the world end as soon as new expected outbreaks have been detected somewhere in the world. But here are the current numbers as statistics divided into China and the rest of the world.
The statistics for China clearly show that the spread of COVID-19 is very well prevented, despite a general R0 value of 1.4 to 4 for this virus (general info about what R0 is: https://www.healthline.com/health/r-nought-reproduction-number). If the figures for China are correct, then China is on the verge of containing the outbreak and bringing the disease under control there. According to the figures from China, the R0 value currently tends to be less than 1, which usually leads to the extinction of the disease.
For the rest of the world there is a slight increase due to the many tests for COVID-19. Compared to China, the rest of the world has a better starting position than China. What they do with it will be seen and it will depend on the actions that countries take.
The WHO now assumes that China has passed the peak of the disease. This is slightly positive, even if the situation is still critical and everything can go to shit within a few days. But right now, this is were we are at.
New confirmed and resolved cases (worldwide):
Development of the number of infections in China and worldwide:
Source: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
if unchecked this would wreck whole continents! But thanks for the positive note! The virus is a real danger, don’t down play it.
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Smiles and Cries
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yes charts will save us all
betrayal
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These charts only show what your numbers, which you or BNO publish, mean by and large. If you don't like the charts, write to BNO and tell them to publish other numbers or just post some numbers you came up with yourself.
You may not like it and that's bad news for you, but it looks like you and every registered NeoGAF member are very likely to survive COVID-19.
That would also be the case, by the way, if many millions would die from the virus in the next three months.
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Whitecrow
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information is power my friend.
Charts wont save us, but can provide us with knowledge we can use to make decisions.
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Smiles and Cries
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Don't waste your energy and save the drama for someone else. No human alive is immune to death, we will all die someday.
I don't have to make up those numbers.
The theme of this thread is to follow a very destructive force in Nature. It is no different than Hurricane season threads. It is just following how nature fucks with the everyday hubris of humans. You can downplay it but it does not mean you will avoid it even when chances are you'll die from something else.
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Smiles and Cries
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Talking the truth while saying nothing at all, we all use infographics, polls, and charts to push our own narratives. That is hardly the height of wisdom, it is just another bullshit thing we all do in life.
Knowledge seekers speak from facts not absolutes.
We have been posting numbers and charts in this thread for over a month and most of us are clear headed enough to undersrtand we are not getting the truth of it just a glimspe. Not all the numbers but what they want to give us. You can't get on the I KNOW IT ALL train from half the story.
betrayal
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That's not what i was talking about. I have no problems with dying to whatever (stupid) reasons. But I find the panic-mongering exaggerated and doomsday scenarios absolutely out of place here.
The whole thread reads mostly like the end of the world and I'm sure there are more than a handful of people here who actually have more than a few fears. But the problem is that the thread, or rather the conclusions made from the available data, completely lose sight of the context and therefore these unrealistic conclusions are drawn.
Apart from that, this is not a regional event like the hurricane season, where 90% of the people have nothing to do with it and just post random shit and memes. This issue, COVID-19, can and will actually affect us all in some way (economically, through traveling, our health, ...).
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betrayal
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The charts are based on all official figures published to date. These figures are certainly more likely true than statements such as "In China 1000 people die of COVID-19 every day", "The USA has no interest in testing for the virus" or "The government of xy is suppressing the truth".
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nush
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"Turns against local government"
Front loads every country is rightly pointing fingers at China, and that's not fair.
The mildest criticism of China
Won't film in public in case he's overheard saying the "wrong" thing.
Continues to shit on more popular Youtubers.
Business as usual for the Youtuber Panda bears in China.
Smiles and Cries
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Stop with the pretend logic. Most of us here are just troll posting and you should not be taking everything we post as what we are thinking or feeling IRL. You fail to understand human nature. Even your own flawed reaction to our reactions here is part of that nature.
We post here and act up like fools, post numbers, post 'just a flu' out of our own human Anxieties.
This is how we all cope with drama outside of our control, it does not mean we are fools but we are just sharing with others witnessing the same shit.
If this triggers you too badly the best I can tell you is to fuck off and let people have their release, you have no clue what someone might need to help them get through the fucking day. If it helps them to post in this thread let them be.
Who the fuck are you to say what is out of place? We are looking at a very unnatural event and reacting to it as humans do.
Let the politicians downplay and spin.
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Smiles and Cries
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All of that can be true, and all of that can be wrong at the very same time. It depends on what the facts are and we will never really know that. If you want to play with half the data and call it the whole picture you are free to do so. But don't expect us to follow and step in line.
You are trying hard to push structure into chaos. You are wasting energy.
Smiles and Cries
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Yes, fuck you too buddy /wink
see be honest, I respect honest. Dismissing someone because of mental health issues is always a mistake made by fools who think they are thinking clearly themselves.
Insane Metal
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eot
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First confirmed case in Vienna was admitted to the hospital 10 days ago, only tested positive today. Second case has tested positive, but they are waiting for more test results before declaring it a confirmed case.
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Coronavirus: Wiener Patient seit zehn Tagen im Spital
Ein 72 Jahre alter Mann ist der erste bestätigte Coronavirus-Fall in Wien. Er lag bereits zehn Tage mit klassischen Grippesymptomen im Krankenhaus Rudolfstiftung in Wien-Landstraße. Laut Gesundheitsstadtrat Peter Hacker (SPÖ) fiel bei einem weiteren, deutlich jüngeren Mann ein erster...
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Smiles and Cries
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First confirmed case in Vienna was admitted to the hospital 10 days ago, only tested positive today. Second case has tested positive, but they are waiting for more test results before declaring it a confirmed case.
Coronavirus: Wiener Patient seit zehn Tagen im Spital
Ein 72 Jahre alter Mann ist der erste bestätigte Coronavirus-Fall in Wien. Er lag bereits zehn Tage mit klassischen Grippesymptomen im Krankenhaus Rudolfstiftung in Wien-Landstraße. Laut Gesundheitsstadtrat Peter Hacker (SPÖ) fiel bei einem weiteren, deutlich jüngeren Mann ein erster...
Same in California was not tested due to 'The Charts'
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