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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
That might play in Alabama.
Raven117
Member
I don't know what joke this is making, but if its a deep cut reference to the dominance of Nick Saban's Crimson Tide, then that is an excellent joke.
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lukilladog
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Reality Czar
Banned
He sounds like a libtard bigot who doesn't know that Birmingham is one of the most black cities in the country. Ironically making a joke about how stupid other people are.
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Sakura
Member
I don't think coronavirus has much to do with it. Sure it might have some small impact, but birth rates have been consistently falling for a long time now, and it hasn't been at 2.1 for like 50 years.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Holy shit you you mean completely fucking over wages to where no one can afford to have kids for 30 years is bad for the country?
HellforLeather
Member
This seems to be the general reason why people I know arent having kids. A 1 income household with children seems just about impossible and day care is crazy expensive . Probably doesnt help that our fertility rates are dropping due to plastic chemicals in everything.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Right, like even if you can pull it off people are waiting until well into their 30s when they feel secure enough. My dad worked construction and carpentry jobs and had owned three houses by the time he was 30 (not at the same time).
arkhamguy123
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I can't believe that premise was even non ironically posted at all.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Seriously. If a person even entertains the notion they're clearly a quack.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I don't see how the "large reach of the pandemic makes it mutate among many hosts" argument matters as long as we can identify the variants eventually and get booster shots.
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
New Study Estimates More Than 900,000 People Have Died Of COVID-19 In U.S.
The total, estimated by researchers at the University of Washington, is 57% higher than the official death toll. Worldwide, they said, COVID-19 deaths are nearing 7 million, twice the official total.
www.npr.org
CloudNull
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Context matters. The numbers are more relevant because they are looking that the big picture but the study does not focus on the virus alone.New Study Estimates More Than 900,000 People Have Died Of COVID-19 In U.S.
The total, estimated by researchers at the University of Washington, is 57% higher than the official death toll. Worldwide, they said, COVID-19 deaths are nearing 7 million, twice the official total.
a) the total COVID-19 death rate, that is, all deaths directly related to COVID-19 infection; b) the increase in mortality due to needed health care being delayed or deferred during the pandemic; c) the increase in mortality due to increases in mental health disorders including depression, increased alcohol use, and increased opioid use; d) the reduction in mortality due to decreases in injuries because of general reductions in mobility associated with social distancing mandates; e) the reductions in mortality due to reduced transmission of other viruses, most notably influenza, respiratory syncytial virus, and measles; and f) the reductions in mortality due to some chronic conditions, such as cardiovascular disease and chronic respiratory disease, that occur when frail individuals who would have died from these conditions died earlier from COVID-19 instead. To correctly estimate the total COVID-19 mortality, we need to take into account all six of these drivers of change in mortality that have happened since the onset of the pandemic.
I agree with the study but the media will neglect this information and run with the overall number.
Sejan
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There’s no question that covid killed people that never contracted covid at all. Suicides from people that couldn’t handle lockdown or people whose depression was worsened because of surrounding issues. People that died from cancer and other treatable illnesses because “non-essential” medical procedures were delayed and cancelled. Domestic violence significantly increased during lock down. It’s telling that most cities had increased murder rates despite the fact that they were locked down.
When this disease is all said and done, the response to covid will be just as deadly as the disease itself.
ipukespiders
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Got my first AZ shot today. Feel like dogshit.
Bluntman
Member
The night after I got it and the day after was a nightmare, never felt so shit in my life.
It was all fine a day later tho, so hang in there! This is the true MENs vaccine, doesn't give immunity without a fight!
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Stories like this are so sad. GIrl didn't even truly get started at life.
fox4kc.com
Illinois teenage girl dies from COVID-19 two days after testing positive
An Illinois family is mourning the loss of a 15-year-old girl who died from COVID-19 just two days after testing positive.
fox4kc.com
llien
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Cannot open this link from EU.Stories like this are so sad. GIrl didn't even truly get started at life.
Illinois teenage girl dies from COVID-19 two days after testing positive
An Illinois family is mourning the loss of a 15-year-old girl who died from COVID-19 just two days after testing positive.
I assume it was from thrombosis, which is something humanity knows how to handle. =/
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
No, she died from COVID-19 complications - in this case organ failure and ultimately an inflamed heart. Why did you guess thrombosis?
Anyway if you really want to get sad and Google up articles you can access her name is Dykota Morgan.
llien
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Because that's the only cause killing young, otherwise healthy people, that I'm aware of.
llien
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EU leaders urge US to end COVID-19 vaccine export limits
EU leaders urged Washington to end COVID-19 vaccine export limits instead of focussing on waiving vaccine patents.
www.euronews.com
EU exports 50% of vaccines produced within the block. (so, 200 out of 400 million at this point)
US and UK export 0.
On top of it, US sits on tens of millions of AZ jabs not authorized for use.
On patents (Germany argues that production capacity and high standards is the limiting factor, not patents):
Germany pushes back against COVID-19 patent waiver proposal
A government spokesperson said the main issue affecting poor countries' equal access to vaccines was "not patents, but production capacity".
www.euronews.com
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M1chl
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Trust me, rather this than Covid...
Because it could take 6 months between detecting the variant, developing the booster shot and then rolling it out. I think societies want to get back to normal, rather than getting stuck in an endless cycle of having to find and suppress new variants.
JimmyRustler
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Finally got my shot appointment. Getting Pfizer, like my grandmother. 03.06 the 1st and then 16.07. the 2nd.
Jab that fucker in so I can finally be done with this shit. If I die, I die.
Jab that fucker in so I can finally be done with this shit. If I die, I die.
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ipukespiders
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Yep, totally fine today.
llien
Member
EU agrees to buy up to 1.8 billion Pfizer vaccine doses
The European Commission deal with Pfizer-BioNTech is its biggest vaccine contract so far
www.euronews.com
The new contract, which has the backing of the EU member states, will entail not only the production of the vaccines, but also making sure that all the essential components should be sourced from the EU.
The European Commission currently has a portfolio of 2.3 billion doses from half a dozen companies. "Other contracts and other vaccine technologies will follow,'' von der Leyen said in a Twitter message.
America's Pfizer and Germany's BioNTech have already said that they would provide the EU with an extra 50 million doses in the 2nd quarter of this year, making up for faltering deliveries of AstraZeneca. In contrast to the oft-criticized Anglo-Swedish AstraZeneca, von der Leyen has said that Pfizer-BioNTech is a reliable partner that delivers on its commitments
p_xavier
Authorized Fister
Are you all recovered yourself?
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Yes, easily worst experience of my life and I am post liver-transplant, which was 5 minutes to 12:00 type of deal.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Quackery.
Conspiracy theory woo dressed up as "opinion", delivered with an argument from authority for that *chef's kiss*.
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Seeing more and more reports of long COVID creeping up in news articles and even highlighted on magazine shows like Real Sports on HBO. Getting scary. I am going to try and get my second Moderna shot ten days from now, which will be three weeks after my first shot (which is considered a safe interval by the CDC and WHO). I want the best immunity I can get as soon as I can get it.
Jaysen
Banned
We get it, you follow idiots on Twitter. Hurray.
llien
Member
Covid: Macron calls on US to drop vaccine export bans
The French president spoke out after the US backed a proposal to waive patents on Covid-19 vaccines.
www.bbc.com
Mr Macron singled out the US in particular, calling on it to "put an end to export bans not only on vaccines but on vaccine ingredients, which prevent production".
On Friday, Mr Macron had pointed to the fact that, so far, "100% of the vaccines produced in the United States are for the American market".
The US - which has pledged to donate 60 million doses from its stockpile of AstraZeneca in the coming months - has imposed curbs on the export of the raw materials needed to produce the vaccines.
Mr Macron noted the UK had also placed restrictions on vaccine exports. Prime Minister Boris Johnson has previously denied there is a ban, however publicly available information suggests vaccines are not being exported from the UK.
Germany and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen have voiced opposition to a waiver.
Uh, did just you call Steven Pinker an idiot?
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
"The response just as deadly as the disease." Any evidence to support this? That would be highly concerning.
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Chaplain
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
And how does the cost/benefit analysis to this approach fair when you compare that against the opportunity cost of not vaccinating everyone in the meantime?
Jaysen
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Says the guy posting conspiracy theories. Really.
arkhamguy123
Banned
Where's the source on more long COVID reports creeping up?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
...did you read the article?
lukilladog
Member
Not Pinker though.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
The quick and dirty way to use the sorcery of the internet to summon information:
- Google "long covid"
- Click "News"
Chaplain
Member
I do think there are still pieces of evidence that continue to be deliberately ignored about the origins of COVID.
Newsweek: Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab with U.S. Dollars for Risky Coronavirus Research (4/28/20)
Video: Psaki Snaps At Reporter For Questions About Covid-19 Origin In Wuhan: "You've Had Plenty Of Time" (May 7, 2021)
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Sejan
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The article that was in the quote I made described excess deaths that were caused by the covid response, but not covid itself. States that ordered “non-essential” cancer treatments be deferred or cancelled absolutely led to unnecessary deaths that may have otherwise have been avoided. I’m not suggesting that no response was needed, but it’s fair to assess that the chosen treatments may have caused unnecessary harm.
Another example of the harm of the treatment would be economic damages. States that had lesser responses in the US have generally recovered economically to a greater extent than those that had stronger responses.
A third area is in education. We are going to see a generation that will likely never fully recover from never ending school closings in some areas. Online public schooling in the ways I’ve seen is simply not anywhere as effective as in person learning. Governments that are still insisting on minimal in-person learning are doing irreparable harm to their children, and this harm is going to be especially damaging to minority children that do not have access to the tools and resources as others.
Politicizing our response has caused more harm than good. It has unquestionably cause unnecessary damage to the lives of people in the name of making One side or another look better or worse.
I think the huge and immediate opportunity costs of not vaccinating should take precedence over uncertain future costs concerning the development of variants. But the argument gives us a reason to do as much as we can to limit the spread of variants, since the costs of a vaccine "escape" could also be extremely high.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
So where does halting the vaccination campaign fall into all this, as that guy was trying to argue?
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