Mass Effect Andromeda Graphical Downgrade
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Wishmaster92
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This is so jarring and creepy. Different lighting in these two shots and the eyes resemble stickers.
wesleyshark
Banned
I dunno they look fine to me? HahaThis is so jarring and creepy. Different lighting in these two shots and the eyes resemble stickers.
martino
Member
Ok, I'm not saying the facial animation is stellar in Horizon (though I think the robots animate nicely) but something like this
Maybe it's the different camera work but I don't see the dead of a robot, it feels decent to me. And yes to reply to Heckler 456 since they game is much bigger, with a bigger cast I don't expect the same variety of unique faces or even V.A for that matter.
didn't said it but i was thinking only of dialog animations (cutscenes animations are better)
and this guy is the best so far
it's a shame previsible scenario make him have previsible fate
cripterion
Member
This is so jarring and creepy. Different lighting in these two shots and the eyes resemble stickers.
Is that custom dad ryder based on the son here? At least the generation of the dad is pretty good with the face choices you've made. Do we have any footage of the sibling?
Heckler456
Banned
Well, if you don't even want to entertain the notion that a game that is at least twice as long, with provably twice as many characters, and the amount of direct dialogue being equal to two of its three prequels, then I don't know why I'm having this conversation here with you. I think it's pretty evident that it's safe to assume that they had significantly more animation to do than The Witcher 3, which was the entire point.
Both the eye and the skin shading in those are quite (and I try to use this exact wording more carefully than most) last-gen.
Well, regarding The Witcher 3; they used an algorithm as a base, and fine-tuned it by hand. And I imagine that the same goes for games like ME:A but also Horizon. The thing with Bioware is that their animation rig/setup in ME:A seems to be severly lacking (or at least, they made some weird choices) compared to other recent games. It wouldnt surprise me if they have like, one specific rig for dialogues for every type of character (including alien species); maybe thats why this looks so incredibly weird, because the rig also has to work with a Krogan character for example. /assumptions
noot noot
I just can't believe that someone at Bioware saw this and thought "this looks great!"
family_guy
Member
Can PC mods fix the faces?
Wishmaster92
Member
I'm not asking for it to look as good as this
I would like them to look a little more believable. They look incredibly fake
Triggerhappytel
Member
You made a blanket statement, he countered it and your response is "not all devs are the same!" So don't make blanket statements then?!
cripterion
Member
Yeah I don't wanna post other gifs of different other characters talking cause people will complain of spoilers and well it's an Andromeda thread still but I agree with you, the uncanney valley is strong in Horizon but somehow I don't even get that from Andromeda.
They just look like goofballs with doll eyes for the most part. OG daddy Ryder is alright though so it's strange that the other characters couldn't be held to the same standard. Liam is alright too.
And yeah Rost was so good
There were some hair mods here and there for Inquisition but I don't think you'll see face mods. It's a shame that this engine is not moddable. Fallout 4 mods came made things bearable.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They can probably let you add higher resolution textures but the animation rig underneath the models will still be the same.
These are a bit better than the default faces and what we have seen so far. But that's not saying much. But yeah those eyes seem quite last gen.This is so jarring and creepy. Different lighting in these two shots and the eyes resemble stickers.
Not really. Because it clearly looks like most facial animations are algorithmically generated. CDPR also used algorithms to generate a baseline and then went and idividually adjusted each cutscene by hand to improve the quality.
Here, all I'm asking is for Bioware to do the same for their main cutscenes. They're not even doing that. So in volume, I'll concede the point, but in terms of unique animation work, I'll certainly not.
arturo2666
Banned
This is so jarring and creepy. Different lighting in these two shots and the eyes resemble stickers.
Is one of these supposed to look good? Yuck.
The hell happened?
Ok I have to ask because I haven't followed the game at all really (ME fan though).. Who is the character in the below picture? Is she the main character? What the fuck??
If the scope of the game forces development to mitigate quality below what might be considered par for the industry at time of release then that scope should be limited.
Unless the scope itself is part of the actual product (minecraft) then there is little reason to sacrifice quality for just more of the same. If witcher 3 was 10 times its size but 1/10th the quality no one would care about it. If there were 100s of dungeons in Zelda OOC but a fraction of the design quality it would make it a worse game, not a game of equal value.
The scope of a game isn't an excuse, because the scope is something they themselves control. If the scope limited the quality of the animations, then a consumer is allowed to critique the scope by way of animation quality.
Unless the scope itself is part of the actual product (minecraft) then there is little reason to sacrifice quality for just more of the same. If witcher 3 was 10 times its size but 1/10th the quality no one would care about it. If there were 100s of dungeons in Zelda OOC but a fraction of the design quality it would make it a worse game, not a game of equal value.
The scope of a game isn't an excuse, because the scope is something they themselves control. If the scope limited the quality of the animations, then a consumer is allowed to critique the scope by way of animation quality.
She's the FemShep of this game.
Vital Tundra
Member
She need to drink more water, she got some chappy lips. thats Ryder btw.
GravityInsanity
Member
Damn it man stop. It's too early for me to be laughing this hard.
cripterion
Member
lol, Wildlands characters look like shit and the lipsync is horrid, I'm still enjoying the game (with a friend), I'm sure it will be same here too unlike the game fails terribly in gameplay & story departments.
I have seen two negative previews so far so I'm keen to try it myself.
hairygreenpeas
Neo Member
They should definitely do something about the eyes and facial animations lol. I will just have to spend an hour or two trying to make my Ryder as attractive as possible to make up for it.
Bioware didn't just walk down a wrong path accidentally in to uncanny valley, they fucking bungie jumped in without the rope being held in place.
I find all the humanoid characters extremely off-putting when it comes to the model/animation quality (not just talking about faces). They're all rather creepy. They all seem to have a knack for a real shit-eating grin too.
I find all the humanoid characters extremely off-putting when it comes to the model/animation quality (not just talking about faces). They're all rather creepy. They all seem to have a knack for a real shit-eating grin too.
cripterion
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEc0sWXpSAY
The dude is right some scenes aren't that bad and show different range of emotions. But that early gameplay footage with the different crew people, gosh...
The dude is right some scenes aren't that bad and show different range of emotions. But that early gameplay footage with the different crew people, gosh...
MadClacker
Member
15 pages and no obligatory...
I can't help but try to imitate that face when I see this .gif
D:
I can't help but try to imitate that face when I see this .gif
D:
plasmawave
Banned
It's the creepy eyes. The iris looks like it's painted on a glass ball.
Interfectum
Member
LOL
The hell happened?
What do you mean what happened? Leliana looks like an anorexic manequin in Inquisition. Bioware can't do faces on Frostbite. At least female ones.
I couldn't put my finger on it for the longest time. Thank you.
cripterion
Member
Didn't someone link to a Bioware dev claiming it was gameplay or something?
Cybrwzrd
Banned
There is one plus to these character models, I am hoping to see some really funny ultra ugly model videos.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kKSgDK4JkO0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kKSgDK4JkO0
family_guy
Member
I'm convinced the whole cast are first generation Cylons.
Collateral22
Member
Looks like Mass Effect faces alright. Gameplay looks great though and IMO the game is a nice looking game with varied areas that have been shown. Definitely a day 1 once it runs fine.
-plays All Along The Watchtower-
Atraveller
Banned
I made a quick change to CarbonFire's version just to see what it would look like with less red in the eyes.
Reveal
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CarbonFire's superimposition
Drugs-B-Gone
Skin texture is much nicer in the final version, but those dead eyes man....
Make a red one then we have a whole ending set.
Trickster
Member
Sure okay bud.
Plenty of makeup on those women. And that has nothing to do with why they look terrible.
Edit - Not like the complaints are female only btw, male characters looks awful too.
FlutterPuffs
Member
It would be ok if they didnt claim it was representative of gameplay.
I mean, I would have been ok if they kept the quality like that only for conversations at least.
this guy are sick
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SOMEBODY
RandomSeed
Member
Forget the look they are going for, it's the execution that has me laughing. I couldn't care less if the game was full of average looking faces, rather than everyone looking like a model, but the mix of the strange features, lip sync puffy lips, and unrealistic facial animation is rather off-putting. Looking plain is fine, but the eyes are so strange, I can't help but picture that faceless Assassin's Creed gif.
Damn. Where do you live? I'm just asking so I know to never ever move there.
This is also female Ryder. It's a good thing we can customize her.
I want the code for this one.
Anyway, i imagine Polygon's Monster Factory will have a blast with this game.