Steve Holt
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Hell hath no fury like a gamer scorned.
Hell hath no fury like a gamer scorned.
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Certainly not in the US, fiction is fiction there. I know places like Canada do not believe fiction is fiction and do explicitly disallow some types of fictional contentdo they think we're an idiot or something? the main problem is that its not illegal in the first place. Incest between 2 jpeg on fictional media is not Illegal.
Everyone is degenerate just some people refuse to hide it. Stand up for yourself and be proud!Who could have predicted that degenerate gooners would be the ones to save the world?
Not really. For example last year in Indiana there was a case where a guy was charged for having hentai featuring underage characters, but was found not guilty as it is protected by the first amendment (https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/in-court-of-appeals/116613118.html)Depictions of what would be illegal in real life in porn are generally considered illegal and obscene in the US.
Same with even fantasy IRL porn, hence the endless use of "step-" relatives and not real relatives. Or generic "teen" instead of having an adult actress just claim they are underage.
Just because nobody is currently going out of their way to police something and arrest people doesn't mean it isn't illegal. All the more legit porn sites scrubbed a ton of their material a couple years back because US lawmakers threatened them.
Neither Steam nor itch.io singled out Mastercard, Visa, or anyone else. They used the term"payment processors". That usually refers to banks.
Thats Comical Ali. The Iraqi Information Minister during the gulf war who would constantly appear on TV making completely outlandish claims of Iraqi victories.Source on this image
That guy was charged by the State of Indiana though. The federal statute I linked in another post clearly calls out stuff like hentai with kids being illegal, if he had been charged by the feds he'd likely have been convicted.Not really. For example last year in Indiana there was a case where a guy was charged for having hentai featuring underage characters, but was found not guilty as it is protected by the first amendment (https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/in-court-of-appeals/116613118.html)
I think it depends on how realistic it looks though. Kind of a grey area.
And I am pretty sure stuff like fictional incest would never be a legal issue (in the US at least). After all, the laws on incest are about having sex with your own immediate family member, not on you seeing other (fictional) family members getting it on.
The reason underage stuff gets targetted is because child pornography itself is obviously illegal, so the question is whether fictional versions of that are ok or not (and depends heavily on country). I'm pretty sure Steam already doesn't allow that stuff? Though there could be stuff that is questionable, I dunno.
From my understanding, the reason there is so much "step" stuff in porn games, is because places like Patreon specifically forbid it, not because of legal reasons.
In addition, visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexual activity and are obscene are also illegal under federal law.
Because Gabe is a tech libertarian and the laws are vague enough to where Valve could probably get away with just removing the material if any federal law enforcement went after them. There is also a strong belief among tech companies that Section 230 generally protects them from prosecution in general, but again, doesn't mean they couldn't be told directly to remove this stuff and stop spreading it, by the US feds.But Valve is a US company, and therefore subject to the same laws. If it is illegal for Valve to sell it, they wouldn't sell it.
Either way, your point about Visa and MasterCard not being singled out was valid.
Stokely named three major banks that refused service because of "reputational risk" associated with the UK-based OnlyFans' sexual material: Bank of New York Mellon, Metro Bank, and JPMorgan Chase. He said BNY Mellon specifically had "flagged and rejected" every wire transaction involving OnlyFans, threatening its ability to pay creators.
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do they think we're an idiot or something? the main problem is that its not illegal in the first place. Incest between 2 jpeg on fictional media is not Illegal.
I gotta love when these corpos make decisions to not damage they brand and in the process end damaging they brand 10x more. Fucking retards. Thats why you get for bending the knee to a group of men hatting karens.Relevant portion from the above Kotaku article with Valve's response:
Signed a few days ago.
This should help fix those Steam payment processor issues??? Who knows.
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Trump signs executive order to contest payment processor censorship
United States President Donald Trump signed an executive order on August 7 which could have an impact on the ongoing censorship implemented by payment processors. The executive order titled…nichegamer.com
Trump signs executive order to contest payment processor censorship
by Brandon Lyttle on August 8, 2025 at 7:24 PM, EDT
United States President Donald Trump signed an executive order on August 7 which could have an impact on the ongoing censorship implemented by payment processors.
The executive order titled: "Guaranteeing Fair Banking for All Americans" addresses the ability of payment processors to punish individuals for "constitutionally or statutorily protected beliefs, affiliations, or political views". Additionally, the bill calls for an end to clauses regarding "reputation risk" on the part of the payment processors. Payment processors like Visa, Mastercard, Stripe, and PayPal regularly claim that objectionable speech represents a "reputation risk" and attempts to financially disenfranchise content creators.
Within 180 days of the date of this order, each appropriate Federal banking regulator shall, to the greatest extent permitted by law, remove the use of reputation risk or equivalent concepts that could result in politicized or unlawful debanking, as well as any other considerations that could be used to engage in such debanking, from their guidance documents, manuals, and other materials (other than existing regulations or other materials requiring notice-and-comment rulemaking) used to regulate or examine financial institutions over which they have jurisdiction. The removal of such concepts shall be made clear by each appropriate Federal banking regulator through formal guidance to their examiners. The Federal banking regulators shall also consider rescinding or amending existing regulations, consistent with applicable law, to eliminate or amend any regulations that could result in politicized or unlawful debanking and to ensure that any regulated firm's or individual's reputation is considered for regulatory, supervisory, banking, or enforcement purposes solely to the extent necessary to reach a reasonable and apolitical risk-based assessment.
Early in the executive order, Trump gives examples of surveillance targeting potentially conservative citizens as the reason for his intervention. So it seems that the blow to adult content censorship may just be incidental.
For those who don't know, payment processors have become de facto censors of online platforms. Sites such as Pixiv, Patreon, Fansly, and more have been compelled to change their moderation practices under the threat that payment processors may scuttle their ability to do business. Most recently Steam and Itch.io were forced to make changes, directly naming Mastercard, PayPal, and Stripe as the source of the censorship.
There's an active Change.org petition to draw attention to the issue which you can check out here.
I genuinely don't see anything coming out of this, but I'd love to be proven wrong.Signed a few days ago.
This should help fix those Steam payment processor issues??? Who knows.
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Trump signs executive order to contest payment processor censorship
United States President Donald Trump signed an executive order on August 7 which could have an impact on the ongoing censorship implemented by payment processors. The executive order titled…nichegamer.com
Trump signs executive order to contest payment processor censorship
by Brandon Lyttle on August 8, 2025 at 7:24 PM, EDT
United States President Donald Trump signed an executive order on August 7 which could have an impact on the ongoing censorship implemented by payment processors.
The executive order titled: "Guaranteeing Fair Banking for All Americans" addresses the ability of payment processors to punish individuals for "constitutionally or statutorily protected beliefs, affiliations, or political views". Additionally, the bill calls for an end to clauses regarding "reputation risk" on the part of the payment processors. Payment processors like Visa, Mastercard, Stripe, and PayPal regularly claim that objectionable speech represents a "reputation risk" and attempts to financially disenfranchise content creators.
Within 180 days of the date of this order, each appropriate Federal banking regulator shall, to the greatest extent permitted by law, remove the use of reputation risk or equivalent concepts that could result in politicized or unlawful debanking, as well as any other considerations that could be used to engage in such debanking, from their guidance documents, manuals, and other materials (other than existing regulations or other materials requiring notice-and-comment rulemaking) used to regulate or examine financial institutions over which they have jurisdiction. The removal of such concepts shall be made clear by each appropriate Federal banking regulator through formal guidance to their examiners. The Federal banking regulators shall also consider rescinding or amending existing regulations, consistent with applicable law, to eliminate or amend any regulations that could result in politicized or unlawful debanking and to ensure that any regulated firm's or individual's reputation is considered for regulatory, supervisory, banking, or enforcement purposes solely to the extent necessary to reach a reasonable and apolitical risk-based assessment.
Early in the executive order, Trump gives examples of surveillance targeting potentially conservative citizens as the reason for his intervention. So it seems that the blow to adult content censorship may just be incidental.
For those who don't know, payment processors have become de facto censors of online platforms. Sites such as Pixiv, Patreon, Fansly, and more have been compelled to change their moderation practices under the threat that payment processors may scuttle their ability to do business. Most recently Steam and Itch.io were forced to make changes, directly naming Mastercard, PayPal, and Stripe as the source of the censorship.
There's an active Change.org petition to draw attention to the issue which you can check out here.