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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!
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Carl2291
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This is brilliant.
Obviously they should have a vote for UK-wide issues. But any areas that are devolved to Scotland - Scottish MPs should not IMO be allowed to vote for the England/Wales/NI element of those areas.
You almost certainly just didn't have any council elections in your area
Two separate issues there. As they are legitimately elected members of parliament, of course they're entitled to have influence. But I take issue with their entire reason for being, namely their desire to break up my country. I don't trust that they give a damn about the good governance of the UK. That's what worries me about them having a large degree of influence.
But being British, I'll just mumble and maybe add some liquor to my Earl Grey.
jimbobsmells
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Voted now I'm sitting at home eating rice pudding because rice pudding bitches.
MrRoflWaffles
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Ah OK, that must be it. Thanks. First time voting and wasn't sure if it was something I had missed
I'm not British but to me it make more sense to have a fully federal system rather than slicing up the Westminster parliament from bill to bill. Is there a reason why that doesn't get discussed as much, at least in the UK media?
AV does nothing for proportionality. All it does is help prevent candidates winning without a majority because opposition is split. In most cases it wouldn't return a different result to FPTP.
Mostly that it's a bit of an effort. Plus there's a consensus that 'more politicians won't solve anything'.
I'd quite like a federal system but it doesn't seem very likely.
oh so this is what liam gallagher is up to these days
all voted
hoping we get rid of the tories and can get on with the task of rebuilding the economy and welfare state
With all three parties promising different levels of austerity, I really don't see this happening
Kinky John
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Amazing.
It'd be better with Sturgeon running behind Ed whipping his arse with a riding crop.
PrivateRyan
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I always spell nobhead without the k but i have no idea if that's accepted as correct
Ha. Guess I'll never know!
Stallion Dan
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Pretty sure I saw a current bun earlier with "Don't let Ed balls up the country". Doesn't seem biased at all.
SymbiantXenos
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A Yes vote for Scottish independence would have probably guaranteed a tory government tomorrow.
the blair government tried to make moves towards that by creating like ten regional assemblies that would have a bunch of powers in 2002-4 but a referendum on creating the first one for the north east got rejected massively and torepedo'd the plans. no-one has bothered wasting political capital since.
Seeing as Cameron would have probably resigned I'm not so sure.
CyclopsRock
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We'd have Prime Minister IDS - finally, he gets the prize he deserved all along!
I sent my postal vote over the weekend, for Labour. I had been considering Green but it's really not worth it in my constituency.
I live in University accommodation with Tory/UKIP supporters and annoyingly I'm terrible at arguing why I think I'm right and they're very wrong, so the past few weeks has been rather difficult.
I live in University accommodation with Tory/UKIP supporters and annoyingly I'm terrible at arguing why I think I'm right and they're very wrong, so the past few weeks has been rather difficult.
Hahaha.
Little Old Man
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Predictions for the night:
Labour Vs Tories. Extremely close in either direction, less than 15 seats apart. I've got money on Labour having the most seats, but I would not be a huge shock if Cameron clinched it. However naturally the make up of the other parties makes it easier for Miliband to form a coalition, 'promises' regarding the SNP aside.
SNP: they will perform well, very well in fact by historic standards and build substantially on the six constituencies they currently hold. However I very much doubt the recent polling will tally across to the actual seats, due a mixture of tactical voting from other party supporters, and traditional Labour voters sticking with the devil they know rather than having a punt on the unknown.
UKIP- a storm in a pint glass. Whilst the polls have them above the Lib Dems at around 11%- and this could be reflected in the national share of the vote- there will be relatively few constituencies with a high enough concentration of voters to push them over the line. Again tactical voting will play a part. Farage concentrating on several key seats rather than a blanket approach tells me they know this too. I expect at most 5 or 6 seats, most likely 3 or 4.
Greens- they'll hold onto the Brighton & Hove seat, and perhaps one or two others. Pretty steady election for them.
Plaid Cymru- not the foggiest, similar to the Greens?
Liberal Democrats- this is the one I have a hard time predicting. Losing seats is pretty certain, but I actually agree with Nick (tm) that it won't be quite as scathing for the party. As for the Cleggmesiter himself, I believe he will make it.
Off to vote shortly!
Labour Vs Tories. Extremely close in either direction, less than 15 seats apart. I've got money on Labour having the most seats, but I would not be a huge shock if Cameron clinched it. However naturally the make up of the other parties makes it easier for Miliband to form a coalition, 'promises' regarding the SNP aside.
SNP: they will perform well, very well in fact by historic standards and build substantially on the six constituencies they currently hold. However I very much doubt the recent polling will tally across to the actual seats, due a mixture of tactical voting from other party supporters, and traditional Labour voters sticking with the devil they know rather than having a punt on the unknown.
UKIP- a storm in a pint glass. Whilst the polls have them above the Lib Dems at around 11%- and this could be reflected in the national share of the vote- there will be relatively few constituencies with a high enough concentration of voters to push them over the line. Again tactical voting will play a part. Farage concentrating on several key seats rather than a blanket approach tells me they know this too. I expect at most 5 or 6 seats, most likely 3 or 4.
Greens- they'll hold onto the Brighton & Hove seat, and perhaps one or two others. Pretty steady election for them.
Plaid Cymru- not the foggiest, similar to the Greens?
Liberal Democrats- this is the one I have a hard time predicting. Losing seats is pretty certain, but I actually agree with Nick (tm) that it won't be quite as scathing for the party. As for the Cleggmesiter himself, I believe he will make it.
Off to vote shortly!
Mr Nash
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As a Canadian, it's interesting watching British folks reaction to the SNP and how they may behave once elected. We've had the Bloc Québécois here for years representing French Canadian interests, so I'm curious how it'll be in the UK by comparison with the SNP. Granted the SNP could have far greater influence on the national stage than the Bloc ever did. Nonetheless, I am interested what will happen after the election since it seems likely they're going to get quite a few seats.
Well you just managed to top the Sun front cover for scariest thing posted in this thread.
More Fun To Compute
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Went to vote and I was the only one there as normal although there were some kippers on the main road waving signs. Bought some chocolate from the coop to make me feel better about the whole sordid experience.
With the fall in oil prices, I'm surprised the SNP have done so well. All those doom mongering 'oil prices will fall' were right albeit a generation early. In short the SNP were kinda being shortsighted and overoptimistic.
And if the find near Gatwick pans out, oh boy, the Scots voted right in the referendum.
mere_immortal
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I got one of those new cadbury oat things after I voted this morning.
Best chocolate bar is the real voting issue of the day.
MasterLeePhD
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Scotland has a lot more to offer than just oil. Anyway, I posted my SNP vote out weeks ago.
Succinct Verbosity
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Just voted Labour in one of the most marginal seats in the country. Please let this seat go back to Labour. Ugh.
QuicheFontaine
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I'm having enchiladas. A pretty un-British tea now that I think about it.
Does Havant include Leigh Park?
HazySaiyan
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Just voted Green, my seat is a fairly safe Labour one so I've got no qualms about voting based on principles.
Don't know what Buzzfeed were on about.
Don't know what Buzzfeed were on about.
MrS
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They really are evil, aren't they?
Just got off work and voted. Looking forward to watching the fallout later.
JonathanEx
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Off for my pre-election nap. I've followed Paxman's advice and bought jelly babies for later. Apparently that's how he does it.
That's the funniest thing about this election in my opinion: all the things FPTP usually stands for -- clear winners and losers and thus stable governments, the system supporting large parties and diminishing smaller ones -- is pretty much subverted this time.
Now you guys are talking about a possible minority government. I mean, I personally have nothing against that, but in Germany, that's the one possible result of our voting system that is actually very much disliked by most people.
Will definitely watch BBC World this night, election days are great.
Irish person here, but I've been absolutely fascinated by the British elections this year. It's been running so close that it seems as though anything is possible. I'm personally hoping that, even if nothing else comes from it, David Cameron winds up vacating Number 10. While there are many domestic issues I feel unqualified to discuss, the promise of a referendum on EU membership is especially repugnant. I can't believe that, with all the benefits that EU membership offers, that it remains an issue of debate in the country. I'm at least confident that, if push came to shove, such a referendum would result in remaining within the Union. I understand that Britain may have issues on certain aspects, but it's far better to seek change within the system rather than simply removing oneself from it. But I digress.
I was speaking to some of my British friends today who had voted by proxy. I simply assumed before talking to them that they had voted Labour, but was surprised when I heard they went Conservative. The main reason for my surprise is that the reason we all came here to the Netherlands to study is because of the significant cost differences with tuition fees, where they were simply unable to pay them with all the changes that had taken place in the UK. While they acknowledged that, they gave me economic reasons that I'm not informed enough to contest, though I know the Conservative platform is based off scaremongering the possibilities of increased Labour spending. I could have mentioned the vast increase in the number of food banks and the general inequality of the economic recovery, but I was left so surprised by their stances that I didn't. They certainly haven't benefited from the recovery that Cameron instituted, but they choose to support him for a second term. Very strange to me.
The success of some of the smaller parties really stands against the disadvantages of the First-Past-The-Post system, even as they would greatly benefit from Proportional Representation. Because of the inevitable Hung Parliament, it's becoming more like the result of a PR vote than I ever expected a FPTP election to result in. I think I'll have to have the BBC open for the next week in order to keep track of all the party diplomacy. All very exciting! Can't wait to read through the exit polls!
I was speaking to some of my British friends today who had voted by proxy. I simply assumed before talking to them that they had voted Labour, but was surprised when I heard they went Conservative. The main reason for my surprise is that the reason we all came here to the Netherlands to study is because of the significant cost differences with tuition fees, where they were simply unable to pay them with all the changes that had taken place in the UK. While they acknowledged that, they gave me economic reasons that I'm not informed enough to contest, though I know the Conservative platform is based off scaremongering the possibilities of increased Labour spending. I could have mentioned the vast increase in the number of food banks and the general inequality of the economic recovery, but I was left so surprised by their stances that I didn't. They certainly haven't benefited from the recovery that Cameron instituted, but they choose to support him for a second term. Very strange to me.
The success of some of the smaller parties really stands against the disadvantages of the First-Past-The-Post system, even as they would greatly benefit from Proportional Representation. Because of the inevitable Hung Parliament, it's becoming more like the result of a PR vote than I ever expected a FPTP election to result in. I think I'll have to have the BBC open for the next week in order to keep track of all the party diplomacy. All very exciting! Can't wait to read through the exit polls!
Stevie Gerrard
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Voted labour, sheffield central. Polling station was much busier than the last two times I've voted here. Supposedly a lab/lab marginal based on last time but labour will win by miles.
Greens were out working hard today in the student areas, they seem to think they can get second here. Looked like labour have sent all their resources up the hill to Hallam.
Greens were out working hard today in the student areas, they seem to think they can get second here. Looked like labour have sent all their resources up the hill to Hallam.
chancellor
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Voted labour, now my family call me Red Ed.....
Psychotext
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DIRTY COMMIE.
SymbiantXenos
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Red Ed Revolution
PJV3
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And a hit with the Ladies.
Mr. Luchador
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Immigrant food putting English food out of jobs. OMG.
We'll probably have a few earlier than that, but that's when they really start coming in, yeah.
This, basically.
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