kylecoley182
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I don't know if this is allowed but i thought this was a pretty darn good video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq5kPnuE6fc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq5kPnuE6fc
MCU Supercut - The Captain America Trilogy Retrospective
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Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
But it's not a real trilogy
edit: Only the last three minutes of that video were good, the editor's skill is in shorter videos. Also a lot of the dialogue is drowned out, though that's probably due to the speech normally having a score over it, and then the editor having to drown that out.
meh out of 10
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edit: Only the last three minutes of that video were good, the editor's skill is in shorter videos. Also a lot of the dialogue is drowned out, though that's probably due to the speech normally having a score over it, and then the editor having to drown that out.
meh out of 10
Killer Queen
Banned
How is it not?
Mighty Chin
Banned
Love that score.
I can't think of any other trilogies where the comprehension of those depends on movies outside of the trilogy. Not so much The First Avenger and The Winter Soldier, but Civil War - its story depends on stuff not mentioned in the first two movies, it assumes knowledge about characters who don't appear in those movies, etc.
That's another thread, anyway.
Killer Queen
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I guess I can see where you're coming from but this is the first cinematic universe so trying to balance both while also telling larger stories gets a bit difficult. But I mean, it's three films based on the same character in his own "mini-series" so it's still a trilogy.
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct!
peanutbutterlatte
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Whether it's a trilogy or not, Civil War isf damned entertaining. To a lesser degree, isn't the Iron Man trilogy kinda reliant on MCU links?
That Dude John
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Almost caught some feelings for a sec.
Nope. I mean, sure, the third film made few cursory nods to the events of The Avengers, but on the plus side it didn't have random scenes of Wanda and Vision chatting about paprika in their kitchen in addition to a hundred other unrelated subplots.
The Iron Man trilogy was very much it's own thing which the Captain America trilogy wasn't after the release of Civil War.. Civil War was for all intents and purposes an Avenger's movie that just so happened to feature Captain America as its most prominent character.
I mean, on a related note, I literally wandered into HMV today and every single Blu-ray copy of Civil War had this as the front cover:
About sums it up, really.
What comprehension is missing in the film itself? New characters are introduced but you don't need to watch the other films to comprehend their motivations in Civil War.
Do you get more context watching the other films? Sure. But it's garnish.
Escape Goat
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Son, just don't.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
I mean, on a related note, I literally wandered into HMV today and every single Blu-ray copy of Civil War had this as the front cover:
About sums it up, really.
I can't believe a film is using one of it's main characters on its marketing.
The more I see Civil War, the more I wish we had a more focused Cap 3. Because I found the highway chase from TWS vastly more entertaining than "hey, let's all fight" from CW.
Nah, the backdrop to Steve & Tony's conflict is more than garnish. The events that lead to the accords - the context of Steve, Tony and the Avengers' involvement in the Sokovia incident, which leads to the main villain's motivation. That's integral to the movie and only really glossed over in Civil War itself. You wouldn't even know what Sokovia was when it was first brought up in the film, with Tony at the conference, if not for movies outside of the trilogy. You'd only have half an idea of why Tony is so guilt ridden, and that plays into everything.
I'm not saying it's unwatchable, but it's like watching the first and final movies in a trilogy. It'd be an experience of "Who's that?", "What happened?", "This person knows that person?", etc.
Can anyone put this video on Vimeo or Daily Motion? Cant see it in germany
Edit: Now one could argue that there are multiple versions of that Blu-Ray, pushing people to buy two copies and that it just makes sense to make one with Cap and one with Iron Man, but I am a little bit sick of telling this for the 15th time in this board...
Edit 2: OK, this thread doesnt seem to be about the video anyway.
Edit: Now one could argue that there are multiple versions of that Blu-Ray, pushing people to buy two copies and that it just makes sense to make one with Cap and one with Iron Man, but I am a little bit sick of telling this for the 15th time in this board...
Edit 2: OK, this thread doesnt seem to be about the video anyway.
That would be my biggest reason against saying it's a trilogy as well. Civil War is more about Iron Man to a large extent than Captain America.
Spyder_Monkey
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It's Captain America 3: Civil War
It's also very much a Winter Soldier sequel as much as it is an AoU sequel.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
When all is said and done, Steve Rogers has had a pretty tragic life.
The tipping point incident and what sets the Accords into motion is Lagos, which happens in film. Sokovia is presented as one of many incidents from Ross. It effects Tony deeply but it isn't necessary to delve into it in order to understand him, his motivation is clear, and we just saw what unchecked power can lead to in Africa.
Tony has a large part but his father has a solid part in the 1st Captain America.
Whoever was chosen to take the Super Soldier serum was destined to have a tragic life. Steve was chosen because he could handle it.
Yep, movie does a lot of follow up from the events of the previous movie. Sure, it is the one that kinda needs info from the other movies instead of WS and TFA, but it's very much still a Captain America movie
peanutbutterlatte
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Capitalising on the primary concept and marketing hook of that film nonethelessI can't believe a film is using one of it's main characters on its marketing.
WHAT MADNESS
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Just think of all the unintended burdens though.
I mean aside from the obvious loss of his old time and friends he's had to shelve the responsibility of being the main cause behind other people's grievances at their attempts to recreate the super soldier serum. Hulk, Luke Cage, Mr. Hyde, Abomination, and among others have all suffered because of the desire to just be like Captain America.
DrForester
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My only real gripe with civil was was them not making the obvious answers when confronted with what The Avengers supposedly did.
Avengers 1. The guys in charge would have nuked the city
Avengers 2. All Tony's fault, not the teams.
Winter Soldier. Guys in charge try to kill everyone. Using Tony's technology in the Helicarriers.
That being said, Steve and the others still had good motivations. While not as bad as the comic, Tony's side all came off as idiots.
I still love the movie though and the Captain America movies are the best things about the MCU
Avengers 1. The guys in charge would have nuked the city
Avengers 2. All Tony's fault, not the teams.
Winter Soldier. Guys in charge try to kill everyone. Using Tony's technology in the Helicarriers.
That being said, Steve and the others still had good motivations. While not as bad as the comic, Tony's side all came off as idiots.
I still love the movie though and the Captain America movies are the best things about the MCU
Yeah I don't get the hype over the airport fight. One of the worst fights in the entire MCU, outside of Spidey, everything in TWS was better.
Black Panther's introduction and first fight was awesome though.
Expected way more from this video ... it starts showing the important story bits from Cap 1 ... and the goes to all fight scenes and then goes to 2 and 3 and 2 and ...
And it misses the important bits about with Carter ... and I find this insane since I will never be able to rewatch cap 1 without remembering the classic tumblr post :
Is anyone who has seen the other MCU movies supposed to give half a shit about this "flaw"? It's a serialized TV series with an astronomical budget. Anyone who isn't up to speed can watch one of half a million "previously, in these mahvel movies" things on YouTube before they turn up at the theatre.
TheGreatDirector
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I consider it a trilogy, but it's very different from other film trilogies that I can think of.
The main difference in Captain America lies in his development outside of his own films in the Avengers movies as well as the overall time differences between films. While one doesn't necessarily need to watch Avengers 1 and 2 to get the gist of the character, you would be skipping fairly important beats that have defined him. Namely the Captain's growing distrust over government interference(the cube weapons manufactured by S.H.I.E.L.D. in Avengers 1) and his slowly building relationship with Tony which culminates in Civil War.
The other difference with this trilogy is the fact that all 3 films are tonally different from each other in remarkable ways. Seriously compare the First Avenger to Civil War in its presentation. Captain America started off fighting the most black and white villains on earth, super nazi scientists. He was a red, white, and blue patriot that the world loved and cheered for in his fight. Yet come the next films and things get much more gray. The wars Cap ends up fighting are way too complex to be considered "good" and rather fall under "for the greater cause". I mean yeah, he takes down a Hydra corrupted SHIELD and saves millions of lives but ultimately is becoming more and more a loner as the films progress. Cap isn't living in the same time so what must decide to fight for? The one message through all three films is pretty clear: he's fighting for the little guy.
He fights for Bucky, when he's marked by the world for death when he was brainwashed the entire time. He fights for the other superheroes who would be put in danger under the accords. He doesn't play for the big guys, he simply stands where those in need of help need him to be. He's not a spy or a hired gun. He's a soldier without a country, despite his name.
The main difference in Captain America lies in his development outside of his own films in the Avengers movies as well as the overall time differences between films. While one doesn't necessarily need to watch Avengers 1 and 2 to get the gist of the character, you would be skipping fairly important beats that have defined him. Namely the Captain's growing distrust over government interference(the cube weapons manufactured by S.H.I.E.L.D. in Avengers 1) and his slowly building relationship with Tony which culminates in Civil War.
The other difference with this trilogy is the fact that all 3 films are tonally different from each other in remarkable ways. Seriously compare the First Avenger to Civil War in its presentation. Captain America started off fighting the most black and white villains on earth, super nazi scientists. He was a red, white, and blue patriot that the world loved and cheered for in his fight. Yet come the next films and things get much more gray. The wars Cap ends up fighting are way too complex to be considered "good" and rather fall under "for the greater cause". I mean yeah, he takes down a Hydra corrupted SHIELD and saves millions of lives but ultimately is becoming more and more a loner as the films progress. Cap isn't living in the same time so what must decide to fight for? The one message through all three films is pretty clear: he's fighting for the little guy.
He fights for Bucky, when he's marked by the world for death when he was brainwashed the entire time. He fights for the other superheroes who would be put in danger under the accords. He doesn't play for the big guys, he simply stands where those in need of help need him to be. He's not a spy or a hired gun. He's a soldier without a country, despite his name.
Uh, no. That's the point.
Soapbox Killer
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I'm pretty sure there was a thread about the Cap Trilogy not too long ago started by a devestatingly handsome poster. Can't remember his name though?
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Expected way more from this video ... it starts showing the important story bits from Cap 1 ... and the goes to all fight scenes and then goes to 2 and 3 and 2 and ...
And it misses the important bits about with Carter ... and I find this insane since I will never be able to rewatch cap 1 without remembering the classic tumblr post :
Thank you for this.
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