Media Create Sales: 03/30 - 04/05
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JoshuaJSlone
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Hmm. I haven't really paid attention to Deca Sports 2, but I wonder how pressured they felt to get it out before Wii Sports Resort and Motion+ stole everyone's attention. If I was them last year hearing about a "spring" launch, I probably got nervous.Cosmonaut X said:
schuelma said:
New Play Control! Mario Tennis 01/15
Haruhi Suzumiya no Gekidou 01/22
Fragile: Farewell Ruins of the Moon 01/22
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time 01/29
Another Code R: Gateway of Memory 02/05
Dead Rising: Chop Til You Drop 02/19
One Piece Unlimited Cruise: Episode 2 02/26
New Play Control! Pikmin 2 03/12
Phantom Brave: We Meet Again 03/12
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Next 03/19
Suzumiya Haruhi no Heiretsu 03/26
Releases were consistent in the first quarter. It's just that they sold poorly and did nothing for the hardware.
From your list, I see the same type of games and Monster Hunter G. If the MH3 demo doesn't bump the hardware nothing will do it until the release of Wii Sports 2.
Kurosaki Ichigo
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Its not 8800Y, thats from a reseller for the game with pre-order goodies, the game MSRP is the standard 7140Y, and amazon sells the game at their usual 20% off too, 5712Y.frankie_baby said:
So, I bought the Xbox 360 bundle pack with Biohazard 5 today because of a semi-price collapse from ¥34,800 to ¥29,800.
I doubt this will affect 360 sales noticeably, because it's limited to literally one company's main Shinjuku shop. Still, it made BH5 free, since it's a regular Japanese 360 with a 60GB HDD inside. The 60GB goes for ¥29,800 in Japan as well.
I doubt this will affect 360 sales noticeably, because it's limited to literally one company's main Shinjuku shop. Still, it made BH5 free, since it's a regular Japanese 360 with a 60GB HDD inside. The 60GB goes for ¥29,800 in Japan as well.
Spiegel said:
I see your point, but I wasn't trying to suggest that the list I made is going to spur hardware sales (outside of maybe a temporary bump for MHG)- merely that it would stop the bleeding until Wii Sports Resort hits in June. I also was more speaking of the February and March period as being particularly weak (should have said as much instead of just saying 1st quarter)- the only games out those 2 months that could reasonably be expected to even approach 100K would be One Piece and a gamecube port. I mean once you get past Another Code there is really little there. Phantom Brave? Dead Rising? Really?
By contrast, I would argue that Deca Sports and MHG could hit 200K, and the releases following should at least be enough to stop sales from going lower than this past week. I probably shouldn't have said "more consistent", I'll give you that.
MarzipaNMOS
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Spiegel said:
Well, most of those games didn't/won't go on to sell a considerable (>90-100K) amount, as most of the PS3's 'big hitters' did. I tried to revise your list to include titles that may hit around that threshold:
It's definitely a respectable amount of games, but comparing these releases to the PS3's is strange because most of these aren't 'new' games that can rope in more customers. One Piece already had its first episode released (which is tracking higher than Episode 2 atm), Power Pro is in a similar situation where the console had already seen some releases (which are still strong on PS2) except it isn't tracking behind the previous games. Then you have the NPC games, which definitely have appeal to non-GC owners, but I have a hard time imagining a large amount of people wanting a Wii to play updated GC games.
When compared to the PS3's releases of: RE5, Yakuza 3, and SFIV, the series' first next-gen sequels and WKC and Demon's Souls, original RPGs, most of which have far outsold the ltd's of the previously mentioned Wii games, its hard to say the Wii has experienced as consistent an amount of 'system-selling' software as the PS3.
edit: the upcoming releases look slightly more comparable. MHG/3 are going to be the series' first releases on the Wii much like the PS3's Q1 software, and ARF, an original RPG, may do well (70-100k) based off of Imageepoch's recent success, it being a 'traditional JRPG', as well as previous JRPGs doing somewhat respectable numbers on Wii (ToS2, Rune Factory).
Yep, that was my point. 2nd quarter lineup has more potential thanks to MHG but outside of that game, the potential sales of both quarters lineups are not that different.
Until Wii Sports 2, of course.
kiruyama said:
:/
Who's talking about PS3 here?
I've made that list to prove my point (Wii also had a consistent lineup in the 1st quarter compared to the 2nd quarter) to schuelma.
frankie_baby
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ah ok sorry, that was just what i saw yesterday and i cant read japanesseKurosaki Ichigo said:
cvxfreak said:
You think so? I took them as pretty confident. If he wasn't confident that they could prop up demand with new software, he'd never have been so insistent that a price cut won't help.
If he's serious that Nintendo's competition is 'apathy towards games', Iwata was making an admission that they haven't stepped up to that challenge well enough lately.
Everything he's said in Japan this year has had an element of 'we're working on it', and an acknowledgement of the responsibilities Nintendo have to generate the demand for their products and the industry at large.
What would be frightening to me, would be if no one was saying that.
jeremy1456
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Spiegel said:
To be fair Spiegel only a few of those that bombed were a big surprise. FFCC, Another Code, and Phantom Brave sales numbers were pretty shocking.
Nobody expected several of those games to do well, and the 2nd quarter definitely has bigger releases. I really wouldn't call the first quarter consistent.
jeremy1456 said:
I agree, definitely the second quarter has "bigger" releases (Wii Sports 2 and the MH3 demo)
I'm saying the first quarter also was consistent compared to the second quarter in quantity of games released (i.e. in both quarters there were/are games released almost weekly).
Captain Smoker
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Phantom Brave?jeremy1456 said:
$70 PS2 2D - port
Not really.
Flying_Phoenix
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slaughterking said:
Pretty much. Odin Sphere sold FAR better in America and I'd assume Europe as well then it did Japan.
bttb said:
Encouraging Muramasa sales.
Flying_Phoenix
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AniHawk said:
So it's a bomba because it met it's shipment call? The games sales expectations weren't that high to begin with.
It was expected to sell 56k and at the rate it's going it will probably reach or get near that that by the end of its LTD.
Now I'm not referring to you in this part, but I think people have to readjust their sales expectations for game releases in Japan, especially the console market. It's a whole different ball game now then it was last generation.
gantz85 said:
World-Wide? Odin Sphere performed 150k in America alone.
duckroll said:
Grim Grimoire and Odin Sphere were developed at the same time and released like a month apart. And Odin Sphere sold very well and I'm pretty sure that Princess Crown passed the 200k mark. So I don't think the problem of publishers not pulling in profits for ALL their games is entirely true due to two games being developed at the same time being published by two different publishers (with one finding radical success) and it's predecessor (from my understanding) fairing well as well. And from the looks of it this game isn't doing too shabby toward its expectations. To me it just seems like Vanillaware has to talk to as many publishers as possible to help them work on their games as they are more risky (in terms of production and appeal) then your average game.
jeremy1456 said:
Nobody should have ever expected FFCC EoT Wii to do well, it was an experiment of porting a DS game to Wii with no enhancement and failed miserably (as it should), I would argue even if EoT had sold more than RoF it the Wii port still would have bombed because of was it was.
Thankfully that Wii port seems to have failed in every single region so maybe Square will think twice before doing something like that.
jeremy1456
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markatisu said:
Yeah I know, but it still had the Final Fantasy name on it. Even complete crap usually sells well as long as it's got that name recognition.
Flying_Phoenix
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markatisu said:
It's a real shame too. It's a really cool concept, but just executed terribly and quarter-assly.
jeremy1456 said:
The DS game did not come close to its previous iteration, this had nothing to do with name recognition and everything to do with the game itself. EoT fixed next to none of the issues that plagued RoF and added a laggy online experience to an already broken game, with the DS version down compared to its predecessor there was no hope for an experimental Wii version.
Exactly, a better experiment would have been to release a Wii version of DQIX using the DS to Wii engine a few months after the DS release to bridge the gap between DQIX DS and DQX Wii
It would have been more popular to "try" then a game which did not have the best word of mouth on the DS of all systems
Eteric Rice
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Captain Smoker said:Phantom Brave?
$70 PS2 2D - port
Not really.
Pretty much this.
Do not port shit unless it's Wii-mote enhanced in a neat way (RE4).
And for fuck's sake, don't charge a high price for a port. What the fuck NIS?
Flying_Phoenix
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markatisu said:
I'd always imagine something like having a Wii version and a DS version that you'd have to play simultaneously to progress.
Eteric Rice
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gantz85 said:
Those are first day numbers.
Though I don't expect it to do well anyway. But 16k isn't bad for first day in comparison to the others.
Nintendo needs to find a way to hype Wii games in Japan, though.
Cygnus X-1
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schuelma said:
Already?
I just don't like Nintendo's way to announce games. And the way they ignore potentially interesting games, neglecting them having a decent commercialisation, is actually disgusting.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Wollan said:
FFXIII will likely only spur sales for a short while. The PS3 has had a decent run recently.
And when the hell is Gran Turismo 5 supposed to come out, and for that matter, Gran Turismo Mobile? Is it safe yet to classify them in the same category? :lol
Wollan said:
In your opinion, was the PS2 in its prime when FFXII came out?
Wollan said:
As far as individual game spikes, that's reasonable. There's probably a good number of potential FFXIII buyers that have already bought the system, but I can still see it causing a significant spike, especially with a reduced price PS3. GT5 keeps having the Prologue stuff come out, though. How much is that going to dilute a GT5's eventual impact?
If Sony can work it to have a significant price drop along with a lot of other currently unknown games come out around one or both of those, I can see it having a sustained impact.
Wollan said:
Right at 6 in Japan. If FFXIII is delayed due to DQIX's delay, it'll be released ~3.5 years into the PS3's life. Still very different timespans, but I was just pointing out that the main Final Fantasy release doesn't mean the system has to be in its prime. DQIX is certainly not launching in the DS's prime, for example.
Wollan said:
There were certainly exceptions, though. GameCube took a major fall following Year 2, for example. Xbox's prime was probably its launch month.
vicissitudes
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donny2112 said:
FFXIIIVersus? Gran Turismo 5? The big games are still to come.
AranhaHunter
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donny2112 said:
:lol
Eteric Rice
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vicissitudes said:
Will these games even be out this year?...
LiquidMetal14
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Haven't we all learned that this gen of gaming trends does not exactly mirror the past? Many things that have happened have kinda baffled.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
I wonder how much longer the 360 can go for being in the 7,000 and plus range?
spwolf said:
It had several big releases in close proximity to each other with a Final Fantasy demo imminent, doesn't seem that odd to me. What will be interesting is Golden Week; iirc there's usually a big spike in sales since everyone has the week off. Normally I'd say the Wii would clean up here, but with the FFXIII demo having just come out, Sony might not do too badly. Well, on the home console front anyway, I don't expect the PSP will get boosted over the DSi.