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[tetrisgrammaton]

Big, which is why WE series is usually a million seller.

how much does FIFA sell in japan?

 

[BishopLamont]

The Wii is performing eerily like the PSP now in terms of both hardware and software, but it has one advantage over the PSP and that it's the only relevant home console in Japan.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Wii sales 19,814

My prediction.

Holiday season needs to get here quick. These numbers are starting to break my heart.

Not me, I like seeing handheld consoles spanking home consoles in sales

 

[Jiggy]

What I don't understand about the Wii userbase in Japan is that there has been 0 over-performing traditional games. Wii has very few high profile traditional games, usually a low profile game takes advantage of the situation and does way higher than expected numbers. I mean people need something to play.

Actually, I've experienced the opposite effect, albeit on DS and in the US.

In 2006 when it was kicking my face in with awesome games month in and month out, I picked up all sorts of stuff like Magical Starsign, Rocket Slime, Clubhouse Games, Pokemon Trozei, and Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2 that I probably never would have touched otherwise.
But now in 2007, when DS has been in a staggering drought for the whole year, when one would think I'd be most likely to buy something just to entertain myself for a moment, I'm hesitant on even something like Zelda: Phantom Hourglass that fits right into several categories of things I like about video games.
It's almost an issue of inertia... The longer I've gone so far without spending money on a DS game, the more ability I have to keep resisting in the future.


Edit: But it's okay. The SNES 2 DS' fortunes will be turning around very, very soon with the Dragon Quest remakes, Tales of Innocence, ASH, etc.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

So this could've gone in last week's thread, but with Wii's recent dip and PSP's spike, Wii has fallen behind Sony for the year again. As of last week Wii was still ahead since Wii launch, but that should change with the 200+K PSPs this week.

well the install base for the cube when Strikers hit in 06 was at least a million greater than the Wii's current base.

GCN never reached a million greater than Wii is now. By early 2006 it was about half a million ahead of Wii's current total, though.

 

[apujanata]

well the install base for the cube when Strikers hit in 06 was at least a million greater than the Wii's current base.

the original sold 75k

Wii is now around 3.5 Million, while GCN was 4 Million (not exactly 1 Million difference as per your claim, and in 2006, GCN one year sales is only 88K).
Strikers Charge is only 28K, vs 75K of Strikers GCN.

No matter how you look at it, Strikers Wii under perform badly in first week, when compared to Striker GCN.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

well the install base for the cube when Strikers hit in 06 was at least a million greater than the Wii's current base.

the original sold 75k

Fine, Strikers is a huge fucking hit. I'm sure everyone at Nintendo is super fucking happy the game is on pace to perhaps do in its lifetime what the original did in a week.

FULL STEAM AHEAD CHAPS

 

[TreasureHunterG]

How was GCN Strikers reception on Japan? If it was bad, could explain this under performance of Wii Strikers.

Ah... and Musou really deserved to bomb. Bad port with horrible graphics.

 

[Busaiku]

Things actually do seem troubling for the Wii in Japan....
With Mario Strikers Charged and Sengoku Musou Katana bombing when there was a game drought and no supply constraints, kinda seems like a problem to me.

 

[NomarTyme]

Fine, Strikers is a huge fucking hit. I'm sure everyone at Nintendo is super fucking happy the game is on pace to perhaps do in its lifetime what the original did in a week.

FULL STEAM AHEAD CHAPS

tetrisgrammaton finally got through Segata head! *Golf clap*

 

[tanod]

Things actually do seem troubling for the Wii in Japan....

Not really. It just has the same problem that the PS3 has had for a while now: No big games.

I'm guessing Wii's floor until Galaxy hits is between 20k and 25k and PS3's is about half that until maybe GT5: Prologue.

 

[Eteric Rice]

Not really. It just has the same problem that the PS3 has had for a while now: No big games.

I'm guessing Wii's floor until Galaxy hits is between 20k and 25k and PS3's is about half that until maybe GT5: Prologue.

Didn't the DS do something similar until NSMB?

 

[ccbfan]

Wii is now around 3.5 Million, while GCN was 4 Million (not exactly 1 Million difference as per your claim, and in 2006, GCN one year sales is only 88K).
Strikers Charge is only 28K, vs 75K of Strikers GCN.

No matter how you look at it, Strikers Wii under perform badly in first week, when compared to Striker GCN.

I think what makes it worse is that Striker Wii had every reason to destroy the GCN's number.

1.Wii is the most popular and now system (well at least for home consoles)

2.GCN was way dead in 2006, more people probably using it as a lunch pail than game system.

3.Wii is in a huge game drought meaning people should be flocking to play something new.

4.All other home consoles are dead in Japan. the GCN had PS2 for competition. Wii has nothing.

 

[tetrisgrammaton]

You're drowning dude, just give it up and admit it underperformed...drastically.

why would you expect a game to sell more on a system that less people own?

4 mil GC
2.5 mil Wii
(approximately)

75K GC
28K Wii


anyway with those numbers, if it sold on pace with the gc game, you would expect it to sell almost 47K

so 19K less than the GC performance, thats pretty bad you say.
but then please consider the sales seasons. the GC Strikers was released in early January, and Wii Strikers was released, well, now.

while it may be disappointing, its not at all unexpected, and i'd like to see what nintendo projected it to sell..

 

[donny2112]

Top 5 games all being portable warms my heart.

 

[farnham]

Im amazed that Pokemon Dungeon managed to outsell FF7.. and WOW at the PSP hardware sales.... outside of that nintendo should do something about the Wii situation..

 

[apujanata]

Things actually do seem troubling for the Wii in Japan....
With Mario Strikers Charged and Sengoku Musou Katana bombing when there was a game drought and no supply constraints, kinda seems like a problem to me.

The only possible consolation for Nintendo fans from the fact that Strikers Wii under performing is that PSP 2000 is released on the first week. It is possible that Strikers Wii will do better in the second week, when there is no outside influence (from PSP 2000). I don't really think Nintendo fans should pin their hope on this type of reasoning.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

why would you expect a game to sell more on a system that less people own?

4 mil GC
2.5 mil Wii
(approximately)

75K GC
28K Wii


anyway with those numbers, if it sold on pace with the gc game, you would expect it to sell almost 47K

so 19K less than the GC performance, thats pretty bad you say.
but then please consider the sales seasons. the GC Strikers was released in early January, and Wii Strikers was released, well, now.

while it may be disappointing, its not at all unexpected, and i'd like to see what nintendo projected it to sell..

Holy fuck.

Okay, even allowing your silly proportions, 19k less when you're dealing with numbers like 65k is yes, a pretty fucking bad drop. And early January is suddenly a better selling season than late September? Really? Really??

 

[Raw64life]

Wii sales are a little lower than expected even with September being a traditionally slow time of the year but I think once Mario and Smash drop it'll be fine. Also, this is good for other countries that desparately need these Wiis.

Cool .gif. Assuming you don't mind, I'll put it in the OP.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Cool .gif. Assuming you don't mind, I'll put it in the OP.

Somewhere out in the ether, Cool Trick just had an aneurysm and died.

 

[tetrisgrammaton]

Wii is now around 3.5 Million, while GCN was 4 Million (not exactly 1 Million difference as per your claim, and in 2006, GCN one year sales is only 88K).
Strikers Charge is only 28K, vs 75K of Strikers GCN.

No matter how you look at it, Strikers Wii under perform badly in first week, when compared to Striker GCN.

damnit you mean i did math for nothing

 

[Raw64life]

Somewhere out in the ether, Cool Trick just had an aneurysm and died.

That's the guy that hated anything other than plain text in the Media Create threads right? Didn't he get perma'd for constantly whining about it?

I need something to try and make up for my lack of a parser anyways.

 

[apujanata]

why would you expect a game to sell more on a system that less people own?

4 mil GC
2.5 mil Wii
(approximately)

75K GC
28K Wii


anyway with those numbers, if it sold on pace with the gc game, you would expect it to sell almost 47K

so 19K less than the GC performance, thats pretty bad you say.
but then please consider the sales seasons. the GC Strikers was released in early January, and Wii Strikers was released, well, now.

while it may be disappointing, its not at all unexpected, and i'd like to see what nintendo projected it to sell..

Try to stop using faulty data. The bolded part of your statement is wrong. It should be 3.5.
The italicised part is not really relevant to sales performance. If it is released on December, then it has impact. January is almost as slow as mont as September (no significant difference).
If Nintendo projected Strikers Wii to sell worse compared to Strikers GCN, then somebody at Nintendo need to get fired.

 

[Tron 2.0]

I wouldn't say things are "troubling" for the Wii. True, the sales aren't as high as they were earlier this year but doubling the sales of its nearest competitor isn't anything to sneeze at. People were just spoiled when the Wii was quadrupling the sales of the PS3 so now anything less is disappointing.

If the Wii bombs this holiday, I would say there might be a problem. But a lull during the early Fall and in a week that was obviously the PSP's to lose? I don't see cause for doomsday.

 

[cbjars]

GAF am squad unite! PSP domination confirmed :lol :lol

 

[Busaiku]

I wouldn't say things are "troubling" for the Wii. True, the sales aren't as high as they were earlier this year but doubling the sales of its nearest competitor isn't anything to sneeze at. People were just spoiled when the Wii was quadrupling the sales of the PS3 so now anything less is disappointing.

In terms of software, it does seem to be fairly problematic at the moment though.

 

[donny2112]

Cool .gif. Assuming you don't mind, I'll put it in the OP.

Fine with me. Thanks.

 

[farnham]

what is the next big release for PSP..?

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Both a Final Fantasy VII and Metal Gear game in the top two....*sniff* warms my old heart.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

On this topic, I feel like a month or so ago, someone produced a comparison between PS2 game sales in its first year compared to Wii, and I thought I remembered Wii comparing pretty favorably. Was that Josh?

Yeah, let me find the links...
Here I got PS2 through week 30, and made a bar chart with PS2 and Wii game totals.
Here I updated PS2 through week 40, but as Wii hadn't yet reached week 40 I made no new direct comparison.
I was thinking I would next do this for week 52.

There's a caveat in that the PS2 numbers I got from top 30 lists so if they had decent sub-30 legs that wouldn't get counted while Wii has the advantage of occasional "Top 500" type lists for updates, but that shouldn't make a giant difference, especially for those that top the lists.

Didn't the DS do something similar until NSMB?

No. DS was doing that in early 2005, but by early 2006 it had exploded.

 

[cbjars]

CC:FF7 is even lower than in Famitsu. 750K LTD is looking more likely, now.

there is always hope, Holiday season will push CC pass 1mill nicely

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Both a Final Fantasy VII and Metal Gear game in the top two....*sniff* warms my old heart.

Yup, a cash-cow spinoff and a re-release. Looks like things are back to normal again in the ol jay-pee.

 

[tetrisgrammaton]

Holy fuck.

Okay, even allowing your silly proportions, 19k less when you're dealing with numbers like 65k is yes, a pretty fucking bad drop. And early January is suddenly a better selling season than late September? Really? Really??

this week, the number 1 game sold 100K, the number 10 game sold 16K

in first week of jan 07, the number 1 game sold 267K 10 game sold nearly 80K

while in this week last year, the number 1 game sold 66K, number 10 game sold 20K

in first week of jan 06, the number 1 game sold 290K, the number 10 game sold 50K

sorry the archive ends there

of course this doesn't show total volume or take into consideration big releases but i think it is telling

 

[donny2112]

what is the next big release for PSP..?

Probably the Castlevania game in November or Hot Shots Golf 2 in December. Although there is Coded Arms, Gundam Battle Chronicle, and a Yu-Gi-Oh! game coming out before November, too.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

this week, the number 1 game sold 100K, the number 10 game sold 16K

in first week of jan 07, the number 1 game sold 267K 10 game sold nearly 80K

while in this week last year, the number 1 game sold 66K, number 10 game sold 20K

in first week of jan 06, the number 1 game sold 290K, the number 10 game sold 50K

sorry the archive ends there

of course this doesn't show total volume or take into consideration big releases but i think it is telling

Strikers is a failure.

Strikers is a FAILURE.

Strikers is a FAILURE.

Seriously man.
This isn't even debatable.

 

[apujanata]

In terms of software, it does seem to be fairly problematic at the moment though.

Yeah, the software is more problematic than the hardware (even if it is true that Wii only sell 27-29K this week). However, it is too early to raise an alarm. Strikers Wii is the only game that is problematic (since Sengoku Katana has the problem of waggling hours and hourse non-stop, which should tire most people). If SSBB and Mario Galaxy have the exact same problem with Strikes Wii (less first week sales compared to their GCN game), then Nintendo need to do something.

 

[tetrisgrammaton]

Strikers is a failure.

Strikers is a FAILURE.

Strikers is a FAILURE.

Seriously man.
This isn't even debatable.

lol, ok, ok.

what the hell am i doing anyway.
i'm going to play some games

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

there is always hope, Holiday season will push CC pass 1mill nicely

In a series where the first week often accounts for much more than half of total sales, expecting much push at all three months later is a bit far out.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

Probably the Castlevania game in November or Hot Shots Golf 2 in December. Although there is Coded Arms, Gundam Battle Chronicle, and a Yu-Gi-Oh! game coming out before November, too.

Looking at the sales of the previous Gundam games on psp, I'd say the upcoming Gundam is pretty big.. bigger than castlevania.

 

[apujanata]

this week, the number 1 game sold 100K, the number 10 game sold 16K

in first week of jan 07, the number 1 game sold 267K 10 game sold nearly 80K

while in this week last year, the number 1 game sold 66K, number 10 game sold 20K

in first week of jan 06, the number 1 game sold 290K, the number 10 game sold 50K

sorry the archive ends there

of course this doesn't show total volume or take into consideration big releases but i think it is telling

Super mario Strikers GCN is released on 19-Jan-06, not first week of Jan.

First week and second week of Jan still have the Christmas effect, while third week of Januari (19-Jan-06) does not have effect of Christmas.

 

[Square2005]

Strikers is a failure.

Strikers is a FAILURE.

Strikers is a FAILURE.

Seriously man.
This isn't even debatable.

Speaking as a Nintendo fanboy,
I Agree!
I saw Sunday, MSC dabuing at number 8 on the Comgnet charts with (my estimate) 35,300 sold, I thought well Comgnet is off again! But it looks like this time they weren't! And with such a strong userbase that has grown at a faster rate than any previous Nintendo console a mere mario sports title should do so much better - and I believe it's been on sales for 4 days already IIRC!

Look at the successes of Mario Tennis (a million seller on N64), Mario Golf, & Mario Baseball a few years back. I'm thinking the Nintendo fanboys haven't bought a Wii yet.

Most of the Wii buyers so far may be newbies to video games just interested in Wii Sports/Play (non-traditional games). I first started to fear this with Zelda: TW selling so poorly (barely over 500k sold LTD).

I hope Nintendo can bring in more "gamers" to buy the Wii, especially all the Nintendo gamers of the past or we may see other Nintendo titles underperform despite having a high userbase.
If traditional Nintendo games underperform what'll happen with 3rd party titles...!?

 

[APerfectCircle]

i'm not trying to undermine how bad strikers n co are doing (i thought it would do 4 to 5 times better). but is it possible that a new psp, FF:CC (and the appeal of these combined) have taken up the majority of gamer expendible revenue for the past weeks or so?
just wondering if anything similar happened in the past?
i guess all will be revealed in the following weeks if the nintendo products start to go back up.
doesn't seem incredibly farfetched on my behalf if a few people have stopped buying games in order to have saved for the psp though.

 

[Brak]

i'm not trying to undermine how bad strikers n co are doing (i thought it would do 4 to 5 times better). but is it possible that a new psp, FF:CC (and the appeal of these combined) have taken up the majority of gamer expendible revenue for the past weeks or so?
just wondering if anything similar happened in the past?
i guess all will be revealed in the following weeks if the nintendo products start to go back up.
doesn't seem incredibly farfetched on my behalf if a few people have stopped buying games in order to have saved for the psp though.

Didn't seem to hurt Pokemon MD 2.

I would hazard a guess that the people who have purchased a Wii would be much more interested in Wii soccer than Mario Soccer. Then again Mario Parrty 8 did huge numbers, so I dunno what the problem is with Strikers.

 

[fresquito]

Woah, I expected Strikers to do better. It really deserves much better numbers. I hope word and mouth works and the game has some serious legs :-/

 

[AniHawk]

Wow, Strikers is a pretty big success all things considered.

 

[Jiggy]

Wouldn't surprise me if some of the low Strikers sales can be attributed to the art style. Not that the GC game wasn't already heading in that direction stylistically, but they really amped up the I AM ANGER factor in the Wii game... Almost in a Western sort of sense.

 

[ZealousD]

Almost in a Western sort of sense.

Well, Next-Level is a Western developer.

 

[sprsk]

Why the fuck are we using shitty animated gifs? No offense donny.

 

[PuppetSlave]

Does Japan get Fifa? Checked at gamefaqs list but it was not there.

 

[Brofist]

Does Japan get Fifa? Checked at gamefaqs list but it was not there.

Yes they do, but usually much later. Maybe next spring in Japan. It's a non factor anyway since if there is only one thing that Japanese gamers have taste in, it's in superior soccer games (WE)