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Media Create Sales 1/14 - 1/20 2008
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
- Start date
Mr. Pointy
Member
NomarTyme is probably right about G killing regular MHP2 off.Kyoufu said:If you're including the G expansion, perhaps.
If you guys think this week is bad for Sony, then watch when DMC4/Disgaea 3 get massacred by Smash Bros. in a couple of weeks
Disgaea 3 will probably do 100k or so, like the PS2 games.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Kyoufu said:
I thought online multi was worthless to Japanese gamers.
jay said:
His complaint wasn't legitimate. He's bitter over the fact that months ago his protestations against Cheesemeister and his insistence on bland threads were rejected; after being forced to give up on that crusade (where he bitched about it every week for months), he comes back tonight to create a shitty thread with incorrectly translated games and a bunch of missing games.
He needs to find some deeper meaning in his life. Maybe being banned will give him that opportunity?
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
jay said:
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PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
donny2112 said:
For me the whole thing is the fucking nerd race to get it up first before the whole thing is translated. He actually started trying to defend WHY he posted it rather trying to get the translations finished. His whole argument is about trying to get the information out to "the people" as quickly as possible regardless of who posts it.
I don't care who the shit posts it, at least get all the information up BEFORE you hit the [post thread] button. Otherwise, what other reason are you posting but for ego? Even now you can go back into last week's thread, see what he was trying to post, and see it all filled with holes where he hadn't yet translated. Two minutes later, this perfectly and consistently formated thread is created with not an ego in sight. And look, every spot is filled in.
If this is some gallant challenge that a couple of you have taken up because it seems unfair, at least look at the bigger picture. The dude is a fuckin schmuck and has been for MONTHS about this. All because he didn't want pictures in his OP.
ethelred said:
I found his thread to be useful and reject the premise that blandly formatted information is worthless. If his behavior in the past mimicked this current example I don't see what he did wrong. If his old behavior was being a douche bag and not arguing that posting info for people is useful than I accept I jumped into this debate prematurely and apologize.
Beacuse it's a war game that is not about the WW2. And Japan don't have the best memories of WW2.Sho_Nuff82 said:
EDarkness said:
The mods can defend themselves, but basically several months ago he bitched up a storm and IMO was ruining the MC threads with his complaining. It looked like the same thing was going to happen again. I personally want the MC thread to be about the sales, not about Cool Trick reopening a nearly year old grudge for page after page.
Anyone dogging on CoolTrick for not having "good enough" formatting or other such nonsense need to pull your head out of the sand. Even Cheesemeister's awesome formatting didn't come from scratch overnight, so rejecting data because it isn't formatted nicely is just plain stupid.
Anyone dogging on CoolTrick for pulling another CoolTrick Media-Create thread moment, continue.
Anyone dogging on CoolTrick for pulling another CoolTrick Media-Create thread moment, continue.
Actually, wasn't an agreement made between the NeoGAF collective and a few of the mods a while back?
I think it was along the lines of only Cheesemeister and a few select others would have permission to post Media Create threads after the whole episode where everyone was racing to become the first to post the thread got out of hand.
I think it was along the lines of only Cheesemeister and a few select others would have permission to post Media Create threads after the whole episode where everyone was racing to become the first to post the thread got out of hand.
donny2112 said:
Formatting's not the problem. When you've got game names translated incorrectly and a bunch of games not even listed at all because you've not translated them and you rush to post the thread up anyway just because you want to be first and because you want to beat Cheesemeister because you've hated his formatting ever since people expressed that they liked it, that's a problem.
He didn't do it to make the info available. He wanted to prove his stupid point and carry out his old grudge, and when his thread was locked, he segued right back into bitching about Cheese again. He got called on the whole deal. Good riddance.
Eh. His own fault really. He wants to bat for stupid reasons then by all means go for it.
This and that are really all you need about CoolTrick's pent up rage about the whole issue. But as Panther said - if you're going to post an MC thread at least fill out the blank spots eh?
We are not going to go back to MC threads of years ago.
This and that are really all you need about CoolTrick's pent up rage about the whole issue. But as Panther said - if you're going to post an MC thread at least fill out the blank spots eh?
We are not going to go back to MC threads of years ago.
Zombie James
Banned
jay said:
I used to do the EGM threads around here (or at least I did for a few months straight) but I have a job now and can't do it anymore, so other people do it. Do I get pissed off about it? Do I complain that the formatting isn't like mine? No. Whoever gets the info first should post it if it hasn't been already, imho.
IceIpor said:
I don't think it's that restrictive. Since Cheesemeister started posting threads, I believe cvxfreak, Raw64life, and jonnyram have all started threads. One thing that they were all fine with, though, is updating their original post with Cheesemeister's format, since it is very handy and well-formatted, once he came around. Cheesemeister can't always be here, after all.
Cheesemeister
Member
Minsc
Gold Member
EDarkness said:
You really think presentation is 2nd to speed? And I'm not talking 10th or 11th here, 2nd meaning literally an hour or two wait; the mess the other thread was is worth it to you just to have it quicker? And by mess I mean the layout and information.
Consistency is very useful with sales data, and I apologize this is my second post on this issue, but I would like to thank Cheesemeister for taking the time & effort to present these threads in an elegant & clean manner.
Speed is not the most important thing, unless you're buying and selling stocks. The rush to post first only encourages sloppy formatting in my opinion, and less incentive for those who decide to dedicate time to making a nice presentation for the benefit of others.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
donny2112 said:
Another thing that I think is HIGHLY underrated are the links in each post to the past 5 weeks of data. I can't count how many times I've used those links.
Now now now, lets stop this silly argument. Sales age is sales age, and if the consensus is that we like fully translated lists with nice pictures and pie charts, then let us have what we want, and thank you mods/ the majority of sales-agers that side with Cheesiemeister.
Back to topic, any word on Famitsu's HW estimates? Is it almost the same as last week?
Back to topic, any word on Famitsu's HW estimates? Is it almost the same as last week?
Chris Michael
Banned
Hang in there, ToI. Should be past 200K now.
yankeeforever2
Member
muramura said:
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
From last weeks thread.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Also, because everyone including myself seems to be swingin from Cheesy's balls tonight, I feel the need to tear him down a notch just so he knows that he's not perfect: I never see him give really thorough analysis of data, nor opinions, nor predictions. I can say this because I'm mostly the same way, if a little more gabby and chart-happy. I'd like to see you post more in other threads cheese! Let's hear what you're thinkin, not just what your macros can spit out.
Also, jay, you're not green; you're a schmuck. If I had seen only the other thread and not this one I might not have known that you had found the depth of wrongness in your opinions. It's a common failing of GAF, so don't feel bad. Learn to review what you've written and think on whether you're actually contributing. I have a least 1000 half-written posts that thoroughly lambasted posters for some unknown opinion but never had the heart/effort to [post], several hundred half-witty replies that I couldn't tell how it would be taken, and several hundred more LOLs that didn't need to be posted.
Also, jay, you're not green; you're a schmuck. If I had seen only the other thread and not this one I might not have known that you had found the depth of wrongness in your opinions. It's a common failing of GAF, so don't feel bad. Learn to review what you've written and think on whether you're actually contributing. I have a least 1000 half-written posts that thoroughly lambasted posters for some unknown opinion but never had the heart/effort to [post], several hundred half-witty replies that I couldn't tell how it would be taken, and several hundred more LOLs that didn't need to be posted.
donny2112 said:
I was going to say wrong because OMG! SSB:B is getting released next thursday, but then I realized that it won't count till the week after.
Anyway, 1/31-2/6 should look like
1. SSBB ~500k
2. DMC 4 (PS3) ~ 150-200k.
3. Wiifit ~90k
4. ToD
C ~80k.
7. Disgaea 3 ~40k
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15-20. DMC 4 (360)
Zombie James
Banned
Are you guys including the bundles for your DMC4 estimates?
Not only did CoolTrick fail to provide a full software ranking [missing titles], which included some mistranslations, but he also failed to provide previous week rank - which, in sales-age, is highly important.
All CoolTrick tried to do was one-up the big pepper jack, rather than provide useful and substantial data.
All CoolTrick tried to do was one-up the big pepper jack, rather than provide useful and substantial data.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
That would be swiss my friend.
yankeeforever2
Member
Kandinsky said:
SSBB: 600,000 (going big)
DMC4 PS3:200,000
DMC4 360: 90,000
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
muramura said:
It's not about siding with anyone. I love the work Cheese puts into his threads. If CT is too stubborn to edit his thread with Cheese's formatting that's one thing, but ultimately I want as much information as I can get as quick as I can get it.
Congrats on the anniversary Cheese