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Media Create Sales: 12/15 - 12/21
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NeonZ said:
That's an even MORE incorrect way of presenting the situation. Did Type Moon make Fate/Unlimited Codes? No. Did Cavia/Eighting/Capcom make Fate/Stay Night? Nope. Fate/Unlimited Codes is not a spinoff by Type Moon, but a LICENSED game by Capcom/Cavia/Eighting. The only "game series" for Fate/Stay Night are the ones produced by Type Moon. The rest are not spin offs but licensed titles. You're arguing over a technicality here. Even if we remove the "anime" term, it's still a licensed fighter. It's not by the original publisher or developer, so there's no way it can be a "spin off".
Naruto, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist, Soul Eater, etc are all originally manga too, but yet they're still commonly referred to as anime licensed fighters.
The_lascar
Member
Rogue Galaxy first day : 150 000.
No numbers for Phantasy Star 0 ?
No numbers for Phantasy Star 0 ?
NeonZ
Member
duckroll said:
I never said that Type Moon made Unlimited Codes, so how was it a wrong way to present the situation? Nothing about the word "spin off" means it must come from the original publisher/developer.
Anyway, you're ignoring the core of my argument. Unlimited Code's situation still is different from a random licensed anime fighter. Fate/Stay Night was released for PS2 before Unlimited Codes. The original source for the game was on the system before the secondary title, it's different from a random anime title which is expected to make the fanbase cross over to that system, and much closer to a game spin-off, even though it comes from a different publisher/developer.
Naruto, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist, Soul Eater, etc are all originally manga too, but yet they're still commonly referred to as anime licensed fighters.
Most of those fighters are actually based on the anime, rather than the manga, though, whenever there are divergences between the two sources. Just look at the colors (Naruto has blue chakra, like in the anime, rather than yellow, like in the manga) and the character lists, which rarely include people who haven't been animated yet. BTW, Unlimited Codes has content that isn't from the anime, even some from Fate/Zero.
NeonZ said:
I think you're completely ignoring that Fate/Unlimited Codes is an ARCADE GAME first and foremost. The PS2 title is a port. It's not a ground up title made on the PS2 as a spin off of Fate/Stay Night, but instead something that was licensed and released as an arcade fighter. This means that the fanbase's first exposure to the game is in the arcades as a licensed fighter. Long before it's ever ported to the PS2. How is this situation any different from TvC? I think it's really stupid to assume that the game is selling well simply because there was a PS2 version of Fate/Stay Night.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
You know, if you compare the sales of Disgaea 3 vs. Metal Gear Solid 4, one would think that Metal Gear Solid 4 obviously made more money.
But, if you look at what is most likely the difference in budget between MGS4 and D3, I wouldn't be surprised if Disgaea 3 made about the same in profit, maybe even more?
But, if you look at what is most likely the difference in budget between MGS4 and D3, I wouldn't be surprised if Disgaea 3 made about the same in profit, maybe even more?
Not that I really know about this stuff...
NeonZ
Member
duckroll said:
We aren't discussing Arcade numbers though, so the existence of an original Arcade version of the fighting game doesn't matter much. We're talking about the console performances of those games.
I'm not saying that it's selling well just because there was a PS2 version of Fate/Stay Night. I'm saying these are different situations, so you didn't make a proper comparison. It's not like the Wii had a successful Tatsunoko game before TvsC.
Kill Your Masters
Member
Thanks. How can they not fund another Blue Dragon? It's still number 1 despite the (little bit) bigger userbase that games like ToV profited from.Captain Smoker said:
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*These quotes are taken from the previos week's Media Create thread, i didnt get around to answer on the quotes then, so i quote them in this thread instead of bumping the previous Media Create thread instead, sorry.*
Hopefully i will get a chance to try out Let's Tap myself some day
Was it expected for the PSP to outsell the DS when Dissidia was released? I think i remember that someone here questioned if the PSP could outsell the DS when Dissida was released though, but did they predict it? Maybe i saw some predictions like that, but unfortunately i cant quite remember, sorry :\ After seeing that the DS sold about 120k units more than the PSP last week, i think it would be a great preformance if the PSP would manage to outsell the DS this week, but that didnt happend.Frillen said:
Ye, Let's Tap's gameplay might seem alittle basic, but i think that the game looks like it is abit fun to play it atleastlopaz said:
Hopefully i will get a chance to try out Let's Tap myself some day Ah ok, like that. I thought it was like you drummed with your fingers or something, and you had to drum in a correct beat to be able to score points in the game, or something like that. Or maybe there are different types of tapping in Let's Tap, like where you havet to tap your fingers really fast like your typing on a keyboard as you said and maybe there is a type of tapping where you have to tap in a certain beat? I dont know :\ Thanks for the info!Graphics Horse said:
Hero of Legend
Member
Are all these numbers as of this week?
Sonic Unleashed and Klonoa are oddly tied at 5,800.
But yikes, Zero Gravity did even worse and it was out a year longer. Japan really doesn't like Sonic that much do they? Seems that his continued existence was due to his popularity overseas. Even Secret Rings didn't do that well at all.
I thought Rune Factory Frontier was over 20,000 by now. Guess not. Sad indeed. :'(
Hope MMV does indeed find the success their Wii games deserve overseas.
Sonic Unleashed and Klonoa are oddly tied at 5,800.
But yikes, Zero Gravity did even worse and it was out a year longer. Japan really doesn't like Sonic that much do they? Seems that his continued existence was due to his popularity overseas. Even Secret Rings didn't do that well at all.
I thought Rune Factory Frontier was over 20,000 by now. Guess not. Sad indeed. :'(
Hope MMV does indeed find the success their Wii games deserve overseas.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Well, the PS2 version of Sonic Unleashed was tailor made for US audiences, if that says anything.Hero of Legend said:
cvxfreak said:
Shinobi. http://ameblo.jp/get6-2
While you look over it, please do some rough translation for us non-Japanese readers.
Thank youCaptain Smoker said:
Awesome stuff. The Gamecube put out a lot of software, I'm impressed! This puts the "how is PS3 pacing compared to the gamecube" in a whole different light, because to me it looks like it's significantly behind the gamecube. Not to mention that the PS3 has gotten the best 3rd party support (compared to both GC and Wii) by far.
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
Kenka said:
Might as well Give a semi-accurate overview here:
-White Night Chronicles sold somewhere around 100,000 on it's first day with a high sell-through rate.
-The supply has been sold out even to whole sellers. Due to it being the year end, Shipments are slower then normal.
Have no fear though! Another Shipment should go out by the weekend
- Pre-orders of White Night Chronicles were Low, so these sales are more then what was expected.
- We should continue to take notice of Sales over the weekend, comparing them to Gundam that also had a good first day, but sales slowed down quickly.
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- Phantasy Star Zero, perhapses sold around 40-50,00.
- More would have been expected, so perhapses many users are taking a wait and see approach to the game.
- (Talk about graphics of the game being poor, He wanted the game but too many games are coming out, thus putting the writer into the wait and see camp)
- DS games have a lot more movement in sales on the weekend, so we should pay attention to the activity.
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Pikman and Biohazard sold around 10-20,000. They are low-priced remakes, so they should have slow-burns in their sells.
- heard Civilization Revolution(PS3/X360) and Ris-zoawd for DS sold well, but don't know the whole truth.
White Knight Story: 100,000 (high-sell through rate; additional shipments for the weekend)
Phantasy Star Zero: "probably" 40-50,000 (seems low, but should sell via word of mouth; DS games do better on weekends)
Biohazard and Pikmin: 10-20,000 (should both sell due to their value pricing)
DS Akai Ito and PS2 Winter Sonata are selling "here and there"
PS3+360 Civilization and DS Resort have also said to be selling, but the details on their numbers aren't yet clear.
Hardware sales should be strong.
I'm not entirely sure if these numbers are just guesses, but they're not as solid as what Sinobi would say in his blogs, from what I remember. Still, take them for what they're worth.
Phantasy Star Zero: "probably" 40-50,000 (seems low, but should sell via word of mouth; DS games do better on weekends)
Biohazard and Pikmin: 10-20,000 (should both sell due to their value pricing)
DS Akai Ito and PS2 Winter Sonata are selling "here and there"
PS3+360 Civilization and DS Resort have also said to be selling, but the details on their numbers aren't yet clear.
Hardware sales should be strong.
I'm not entirely sure if these numbers are just guesses, but they're not as solid as what Sinobi would say in his blogs, from what I remember. Still, take them for what they're worth.
A Link to the Past
Banned
I think Kirby might have a chance of breaking 1.5m in Japan if it keps on. Might go to show how popular the series is to Nintendo, so they finally give us that Kirby Wii game.
pseudocaesar
Member
If those numbers are accurate for WKC, how does it compare the to JRPG's released on the 360 for first day sales?
Jasoncheng
Member
MediaCreate-Ranking
http://www.m-create.com/ranking/
HardWare sales
DSi 204,144
PSP 145,957
Wii 131,054
DS Lite 50,308
PS3 39,136
Xbox 360 12,914
PS2 8,662
SoftWare TOP50
NDS:24
Wii:11
PSP:5
PS2:4
PS3:4
XBOX360:2
http://www.m-create.com/ranking/
HardWare sales
DSi 204,144
PSP 145,957
Wii 131,054
DS Lite 50,308
PS3 39,136
Xbox 360 12,914
PS2 8,662
SoftWare TOP50
NDS:24
Wii:11
PSP:5
PS2:4
PS3:4
XBOX360:2
shykyoichi
Member
Captain Smoker said:
Even though I hate the direction Konami's going with this, I'll support them just to make sure that Suikoden 6 WILL EXIST. (It sold more than I predicted it would.)
ivysaur12 said:
Phantasy Star Portable did 217k on the first day, so if PS0 really did 40-50k on the first day then this should pretty much be absolute proof that for some reason the popularity of such games truly do not translate to success on the DS. I'm sure RIZ will tank, don't worry about it. The site didn't say how many units it sold, it's a D3 title, so it really can't sell much to begin with since they don't print much of anything being largely a budget label. Don't expect it to even chart on MC.
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
xero273 said:
Not extremely important, but White Night is basically at least 1000 yen cheaper then most of those games. Checked out two of my local stores and amazingly, it was sold out.
Also Little Magicians Magic Adventure selling 56,000 copies a month after release is a and having nintendo-like legs is travesty yeah! for original ideas making money!
Captain Smoker
Member
Dengeki Software Total (12/15 - 12/21)
Weekly Overview (Software Total Dengeki)
Software LTD's
Launch - 08/03/2008 = Famitsu
08/04 - 12/21/2008 = Dengeki
Hardware = Media Create
Code:
NDS 1.542.476
WII 712.131
PSP 692.604
PS2 309.420
PS3 300.611
360 110.927
Total 3.668.169Weekly Overview (Software Total Dengeki)
Code:
Week NDS Wii PS3 PS2 PSP X360
07/21 - 27/07 548.601 193.392 78.778 188.894 170.080 19.081
07/28 - 08/03 684.905 184.940 115.983 142.526 485.664 37.602
08/04 - 08/10 753.875 148.064 56.654 121.214 231.491 122.421
08/11 - 08/17 683.148 228.693 55.536 140.651 224.715 36.505
08/18 - 08/24 471.057 116.471 34.819 194.485 119.839 17.166
08/25 - 08/31 464.969 119.749 89.201 137.961 147.798 26.540
09/01 - 09/07 378.177 111.082 49.293 99.123 89.218 16.507
09/08 - 09/14 1.359.677 130.488 38.811 105.876 76.479 110.550
09/15 - 09/21 728.370 100.698 75.242 121.620 111.545 32.785
09/22 - 09/28 638.127 111.983 85.866 539.344 103.562 23.384
09/29 - 10/05 398.829 84.433 39.985 266.162 96.254 18.359
10/06 - 10/12 332.218 72.096 27.116 142.586 164.111 14.269
10/13 - 10/19 374.464 178.352 24.346 148.501 161.044 12.818
10/20 - 10/26 438.583 126.851 27.601 184.565 134.428 12.579
10/27 - 11/02 479.590 119.844 227.784 110.669 111.702 49.830
11/03 - 11/09 642.247 105.057 93.830 102.565 103.817 38.185
11/10 - 11/16 575.243 101.585 186.761 77.587 95.082 30.068
11/17 - 11/23 712.470 362.511 91.290 101.778 367.010 133.016
11/24 - 11/30 933.891 247.467 252.743 84.935 385.488 60.805
12/01 - 12/07 586.664 239.208 119.964 154.050 182.969 69.713
12/08 - 12/14 793.871 523.282 108.036 107.669 179.102 42.332
12/15 - 12/21 1.542.476 712.131 300.611 309.420 692.604 110.927 UPDATE
Total 14.521.452 4.318.377 2.180.250 3.582.181 4.434.002 1.035.442Software LTD's
Launch - 08/03/2008 = Famitsu
08/04 - 12/21/2008 = Dengeki
Hardware = Media Create
Code:
Software LTD Tie Ratio
NDS 116.630.216 4,70 (+ 0,02)
PSP 27.136.258 2,43 (+ 0,03)
WII 26.453.045 3,60 (+ 0,03)
PS3 8.196.489 3,18 (+ 0,07)
360 4.025.759 4,93 (+ 0,06)Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Rogue Galaxy did around 150k first day with around 300k copies shipped. So WKC slightly down with 130k first day and 250k shipped.
Could very well be the biggest first day number for a SCE title since...shock, Rogue Galaxy in 2005.
I can't find Minna no Tennis first day number though, although I doubt it did more, Mingol 5 didn't iirc.
Could very well be the biggest first day number for a SCE title since...shock, Rogue Galaxy in 2005.
I can't find Minna no Tennis first day number though, although I doubt it did more, Mingol 5 didn't iirc.