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Media Create Sales 3/19 - 3/25

Smiles and Cries

Smiles and Cries

Member
Dave Long said:
Looks like Team Sony is blasting off agaaaaaiiinnnnnnnn!

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:lol
 
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donny2112

Member
I still don't understand why Super Paper Mario is being expected to tap into the same buyer that New Super Mario Bros. did. New Super Mario Bros. was a New Super Mario Bros. It was trying to return to the simpler game style of the original game, and its name gave the whole idea away. Therefore, anyone who saw the name and had played the original would be instantly interested in this "New" version.

While Super Paper Mario is a platformer, it neither 1) tries to simplify gameplay back to SMB's origins nor 2) is it immediately associated with Super Mario Bros (Famicom). I'm buying it. I love IS (FIRE EMBLEM!), and I enjoyed Paper Mario: TTYD. However, I do not see how anyone is expecting massive sales from this game in Japan. I'd love to be wrong, though.

No, I'm not trying to impersonate anyone. This is how I really feel.
 
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Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
donny2112 said:
I still don't understand why Super Paper Mario is being expected to tap into the same buyer that New Super Mario Bros. did. New Super Mario Bros. was a New Super Mario Bros. It was trying to return to the simpler game style of the original game, and its name gave the whole idea away. Therefore, anyone who saw the name and had played the original would be instantly interested in this "New" version.

While Super Paper Mario is a platformer, it neither 1) tries to simplify gameplay back to SMB's origins nor 2) is it immediately associated with Super Mario Bros (Famicom). I'm buying it. I love IS (FIRE EMBLEM!), and I enjoyed Paper Mario: TTYD. However, I do not see how anyone is expecting massive sales from this game in Japan. I'd love to be wrong, though.

No, I'm not trying to impersonate anyone. This is how I really feel.
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These are my thoughts, exactly.
 
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Kurosaki Ichigo

Member
I agree with donny. NSMB is a resurrection of the best selling Mario and it showed that in sales. I'd say its like a main numbered entry in the series. Super Paper Mario otoh tries to do new things combining them with platforming, paper characters and so. I'd put it as a new spinoff of the series and I won't expect a NSMB out of it.


Oh, I almost forgot....WOW SCEJ! I'm sure every japanese appreciates how much money you will make them spend on PS3 games from 2nd April to mid June! Seriously, screwed up big time. At this point, we can start predicting which will be the week when PS3 goes below 5 digit numbers.
 
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Evlar

Banned
donny2112 said:
I still don't understand why Super Paper Mario is being expected to tap into the same buyer that New Super Mario Bros. did. New Super Mario Bros. was a New Super Mario Bros. It was trying to return to the simpler game style of the original game, and its name gave the whole idea away. Therefore, anyone who saw the name and had played the original would be instantly interested in this "New" version.

While Super Paper Mario is a platformer, it neither 1) tries to simplify gameplay back to SMB's origins nor 2) is it immediately associated with Super Mario Bros (Famicom). I'm buying it. I love IS (FIRE EMBLEM!), and I enjoyed Paper Mario: TTYD. However, I do not see how anyone is expecting massive sales from this game in Japan. I'd love to be wrong, though.

No, I'm not trying to impersonate anyone. This is how I really feel.
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I think it WILL be associated with Super Mario Brothers, more so than the previous Paper Mario titles. And I also think Japan's attitude toward the Mario franchise has changed since the release of TTYD.

I'm not expecting 4 million in sales, or anything close to that. But I do expect it to be bigger than Zelda and conceivably hit that 1 million sales mark.
 
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bgassassin

Member
^^^ :lol

Very nice Pureauthor.


Are the HW numbers up? That's about the only thing to look forward to. Better yet, the numbers for consoles other than DS anyway.
 
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CoolTrick

Banned
bgassassin said:
Ok thanks. In my short time here, I would have never expected four hours to pass between posts on only page six. :lol
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Believe it or not this was the normal size of most MC threads before the DS/Wii explosions.
 
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bgassassin

Member
CoolTrick said:
Believe it or not this was the normal size of most MC threads before the DS/Wii explosions.
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Oh really? I guess I got spoiled then. :p

I guess things will pick up once again when Nintendo and Sony get their shipment numbers consistent.
 
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splattergnome

Member
bgassassin said:
Oh really? I guess I got spoiled then. :p

I guess things will pick up once again when Nintendo and Sony get their shipment numbers consistent.
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... Sony DOES have consistent shipment numbers. The reason they are selling so slow has nothing to do with a lack of supply.
 
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mj1108

Member
splattergnome said:
... Sony DOES have consistent shipment numbers. The reason they are selling so slow has nothing to do with a lack of supply.
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You could then say that Sony is consistently shipping more than it's selling (Sony PR spin: "We're meeting demand")
 
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Cheesemeister

Member
31. (NDS, Konami) Survival Kids: Lost in Blue 2
32. (PS2, Hackberry) Pachinko Hana-oh: Misora Hibari
33. (NDS, Nintendo) Picross DS
34. (PS2, EA) The Godfather
35. (PS2, Spike) Kenka Bancho 2: Full Throttle
36. (NDS, Spike) IQ Supply
37. (NDS, Sega) Puyo-Puyo!
38. (NDS, IE Institute) Kanji Brain Test 2M
39. (NDS, Rocket Co.) Kanji Test
40. (PS2, Taito) Rozen Maiden: Gebetgarden
41. (NDS, Nintendo) Wario: Master of Disguise
42. (NDS, Nintendo) 1000 Recipes
43. (WII, Nintendo) Fire Emblem: Goddess of the Dawn
44. (NDS, Nintendo) Kirby Squeek Squad
45. (NDS, Hudson) Bomberman Story DS
46. (NDS, Konami) Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side 1st Love
47. (NDS, Square-Enix) Seiken Densetsu: Heroes of Mana
48. (NDS, Nintendo) Hotel Dusk: Room 215
49. (PSP, Sega) Puyo-Puyo!
50. (NDS, Konami) Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters: World Championship 2007

NDS - 36
PS2 - 6
WII - 4
PSP - 2
PS3 - 1
360 - 1

Code: 
Hardware - This Week | Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. NDS   -   130,684 |   121,630 | 1,850,279 | 15,855,958
2. WII   -    75,571 |    67,070 |   990,710 |  1,910,353
3. PSP   -    41,546 |    43,769 |   645,474 |  5,177,603
4. PS3   -    20,459 |    21,635 |   336,934 |    794,492
5. PS2   -    16,961 |    13,321 |   240,914 | 20,395,773
6. 360   -     3,492 |     2,910 |    75,124 |    339,826
7. GBA   -     1,394 |     1,293 |    28,305 | 15,326,384
8. NGC   -       270 |       367 |     5,309 |  4,174,777
GBA = 22 GBA + 607 SP + 765 Micro
NDS = 135 DS + 130,549 Lite

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Vinnk

Member
"Vinnk's Village" Anecdotal Report

Here’s another one. Thanks for all the feedback. I had no idea that people would be so interested.

For those who missed the last one, here is some background:

My town is in Oita Prefecture (in the Kyushu Region) the population is 80,000 (or 60,000 before it merged with 4 surrounding small villages), which is quite small by Japanese standards.

I will track sales from all the stores that sell video games. They are:

2 department stores that sell games (Jusco and Youme Town)
1 discount store with a very small game section. (Mr.Max)
1 manga/anime/game store (Book-net)
1 porn store that tries to look legitimate buy having a small game/DVD section in the front and a massive porn section behind a curtain. (Goody)
1 electronics chain store with a game section (Best Denki)
2 dedicated game stores (Wanpaku and Famicom Dojo)


Most anecdotal reports come from big cities like Tokyo and Osaka and in those places people will line up for new games and things sell out all the time. It doesn’t always paint a very accurate picture of Japan outside of metropolitan areas. My numbers are not supposed to represent Japan, but are just my observations based on the town I happen to live in.

This week I was asked to look for: Wii hardware, PS3, DS lite, and Layton,Yoshi’s Island DS. I went Thursday March 29, 2007:

Jusco
Wii: Sold out
PS3: 10 (7 60gig, 3 Gundam Musos Specials)
DS Lite: Sold Out
Layton: 3 copies
DQM:J 2 copies
Yoshi’s Island: 1 copy

Youme Town
Wii: Sold Out
PS3: At least 3 (3 on the floor, unknown in the back)
DS lite: Sold Out
Layton: 1 copy
DQM:J Sold Out
Yoshi’s Island: Sold out

Mr. Max
Wii: Sold Out
PS3: At least 1 60gig and one Gundam Musou Special (there is a display box out front and the tag on it says, they will bring you one from the back. No idea how many are there)
DS lite: sold out
Layton: Sold out
DQM:J Sold out
Yoshi’s Island: Sold out


Book-Net
Wii: Sold out
PS3: 5 (2 new, 2 used 60gig, 1 used Gundam Musou Set)
DS lite: sold out
Layton: 4 copies
DQM:J Sold out
Yoshi’s Island: 2 copies

Goody
Wii: Never had any to begin with
PS3: 2 used (1 20gig, 1 60gig)
DS lite: 2 used (selling for only 200 yen less than a new ones)
Layton: Sold Out
DQM:J 1 used copy (perhaps the same copy as last week?)
Yoshi’s Island: Sold Out? (they may never have had any to begin with)

Best Denki
Wii: 3!
DS lite: Sold out
PS3: Several rows behind the counter. More than 15 for sure. Not sure if they are used or new but the store says both are available.
Layton: Sold out
DQM:J 2 copies
Yoshi’s Island: Sold out

Wanpaku
Wii: Sold out
DS lite: 2 new, 1 used. (And 4 used Phats)
PS3: At least 1 60gig and 1 Gundam Musou Edition (they wouldn’t tell me how many were in the back room)
Layton: Sold out
DQM:J 1 used
Yoshi’s Island: 1 copy


Famicom Dojo
Wii: Sold out
PS3: “Old Reliable” is still there.
DS lite: 1 used (White)
Layton: Sold out
DQM:J Sold out
Yoshi’s Island: 1 copy

TOTALS:
Wii: 3 (all new)
PS3: >40, (It is very hard to tell but it could be significantly more. At least 6 of them are Gundam Musou Edition)
DS lite: 6 (4 used, 2 new)
Layton: 8 (all new)
DQM:J 6 (4 new, 2 used)
Yoshi’s Island: 5 (all new)


NOTES:

1. There are many, many used Blue Dragon Edition XBox 360s for sale. Best Denki alone had 7. Seems people bought it, beat Blue Dragon and sold it back. The used sets go for as low as 25,000 yen (about $220 US).

2. Despite increased Wii supply, it is actually harder to find the system this week.

3. Wanpaku Switched TVs. The huge High-def TV, as well as 2 smaller ones, are now displaying PS2 games (Orochi, Rogue Galaxy, Hokutou no Ken). The PS3 had the big TV last week, but now it is displaying the VF5 demo on a 20-inch Standard Definition TV.

4. Hiro at Famicom Dojo tells me that despite the massive sales, it is rare for him to get a used copy of New Super Mario Brothers. Seems people are keeping the game and not trading it in after they beat it. He thinks that’s why it’s legs are so good. When there are no used copies available, people buy new.

5. I bought a Virtual Boy this week, in box with 2 games for 1200 yen (about $10 US).
 
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mj1108

Member
I remember the week Nintendogs came out in Japan and everyone was in shock and awe over Nintendo selling around 96,000 DS's that week (this was before the Lite).

And now if that number ever hit 96,000 again, we'd be shouting "Shortages!".

How things change.
 
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Jammy

Banned
It's good to see Wii numbers back up... And DS continues to sell very strongly.

I think we'll see PS3 hit 15,000 in the next month.
 
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Stealth

Member
Looks like Wii is starting to pick back up on its higher trend of 75-80k again. Other than that, seems like PS3 at 25-27% market share and Wii at 60-65% market share will be the norm for the foreseeable future, as it has been for the last couple months.

The DS is really the only fun thing to track right now. *shrug*
 
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Slippers

Member
Japanese Console Top 12

01. (PS2, Koei) Musou Orochi - 406,247 / NEW
02. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 46,362 / 1,250,596
03. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Play - 37,289 / 1,070,334
04. (PS2, Sony) Rogue Galaxy: Director's Cut
05. (360, From Software) Armored Core 4
06. (PS3, Bandai-Namco) Gundam Musou
07. (Wii, Nintendo) Wario Ware Smooth Moves
08. (PS2, Hackberry) Pachinko Hana-oh: Misora Hibari
09. (PS2, EA) The Godfather
10. (PS2, Spike) Kenka Bancho 2: Full Throttle
11. (PS2, Taito) Rozen Maiden: Gebetgarden
12. (Wii, Nintendo) Fire Emblem: Goddess of the Dawn

PS2 - 6
Wii - 4
PS3 - 1
360 - 1

Code: 
Hardware - This Week | Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. Wii   -    75,571 |    67,070 |   990,710 |  1,910,353
2. PS3   -    20,459 |    21,635 |   336,934 |    794,492
3. PS2   -    16,961 |    13,321 |   240,914 | 20,395,773
4. 360   -     3,492 |     2,910 |    75,124 |    339,826
5. NGC   -       270 |       367 |     5,309 |  4,174,777

Thanks to Cheesemeister for his post.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Wow...Wii shipments up again. Has increased production started early? Or were units shifted a few weeks ago to reach Europe last week? Interesting..
 
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Zynx

Member
Vinnk said:
Hiro at Famicom Dojo tells me that despite the massive sales, it is rare for him to get a used copy of New Super Mario Brothers. Seems people are keeping the game and not trading it in after they beat it. He thinks that’s why it’s legs are so good. When there are no used copies available, people buy new
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Very interesting. (Most) people who buy it aren't selling it, so they either want to replay it, or aren't aware of such things? Perhaps if some of NSMB's sales was to the 'new' gamers from Brain Age, Cooking Navi, Kanji training, they aren't of the "hey I'm done with the game and can sell it back" mindset.
 
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Mar

Member
Vinnk said:
"Vinnk's Village" Anecdotal Report
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I love these reports. Fantastic job Vinnk!

The Wii certainly shot up this week (no pun intended).

I still can't believe how badly PS3 is going in Japan. It hasn't even broke a million yet. I know we say this every week, but god damn, who would have guessed this would happen before the launches. Amazing.
 
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AniHawk

Member
At this rate, there's a very high chance the Wii will sell as much as the GC did in its lifetime before December 07 (under a year).
 
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JoshuaJSlone

Member
Wii comparisons: At 17 weeks Wii is where GCN was at 67.2 weeks (December 23, 2002), DS was at 15.3 weeks (March 15, 2005), and where PS2 was at 15.6 weeks (June 14, 2000).

PS3 comparisons: At 20 weeks PS3 is where PS2 was at 2.1 weeks (March 12, 2000), PSP was at 8.9 weeks (February 5, 2005), GCN was at 15.0 weeks (December 22, 2001), and where Wii was at 3.9 weeks (December 23, 2006).

PS3 vs Wii: Weekly share split is 78.7 Wii / 21.3 PS3. Total share split is now 70.6 Wii / 29.4 PS3. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 54.5 weeks (April 9, 2008). If the flip occurred and Wii started doing PS3 numbers and vice-versa, they'd meet up in 20.2 weeks (August 13, 2007).

Total hardware sales for the year pass 4 million.


DS vs PS2: At this week's rates they meet up in 39.9 weeks (December 29, 2007) at 21.1 million units apiece.
 
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