Dragona Akehi said:The best part was the when Heracles died, he was reunited with his family in the Elsian fields, as a full fledged Olympian. He finally overcame his violent side.
The problem is that a lot of the former posters who used to make these threads entertaining have come to realise the shocking truth:- Nintendo is back on top and is there to stay for the forseeable future, despite whatever big title is on the horizon for PS3. They were in denial for quite some time, but now that they've come to accept this truth, they choose to ignore sales threads because they cannot post their views in them without being humiliated by the numbers.StevieP said:So this is what MediaCreate threads have become, now that Nintendomination has become rather boring? :lolVirtua Fighter 5
vicious_killer_squirrel said:Quiet, PantherLotus.
Dragona Akehi said:That's why you are wrong. Out of all console games only Grandia has done that.
PC game though are another story.
Forgotten Ancient said:Quiet...um, I've got nothing. Just wanted to feel like I was part of the family.
justchris said:I could probably post links to about 20 sites that would disagree with you on that. The mythology of the Zelda universe has been explored and talked about to an astonishing degree.
vicious_killer_squirrel said:The problem is that a lot of the former posters who used to make these threads entertaining have come to realise the shocking truth
Ah thanks, my brother's visiting from Australia so I haven't had a lot of GAF-time lately.Cheesemeister said:Yes, it's out -- go download it. You must've missed this thread.
ethelred said:Pig-Man gets power, Pig-Man kidnaps Chick, Elf-Boy kills Pig-Man.
It's the Sesame Street version of mythology, sorry. There's about as much substance to it as cotton candy.
PhoenixDark said:So...did we get new numbers yet?
ethelred said:Pig-Man gets power, Pig-Man kidnaps Chick, Elf-Boy kills Pig-Man.
It's the Sesame Street version of mythology, sorry. There's about as much substance to it as cotton candy.
superbank said:11,000 huh... They need to drop the damn price quick.
I'm late.
justchris said:Well yeah, but that's pretty much Greek Mythology right there, except they had a goat man instead of a pig man.
StevieP said:
AniHawk said:Well they dropped the price before they launched there.
60GB = 60k Yen = ~504 U$DMrbob said:But then they raised it again since the 20GB model is as much of a ghost in Japan as it is in the USA.
ethelred said:Except... no, not really at all, sorry!
Okay, though, let's play a game. Tell me how the world was created in Zelda. Tell me how the world will end. Tell me about the various cultures within it and what these people believe about their surroundings and existence. Tell me why it rains in Zelda. Where does the light come from? Why do people dress the way they do? What are the origins of the unique architecture that the series doesn't, by the way, have?
There is no substantive mythology in any reasonable sense of the world in the Zelda series. It is, as I said, cotton candy. It's sweet and gooey but there's really nothing there except pink and sugar and chemicals and air. The series tells a simplified hero tale (and I do mean very simplified) and tends to reiterate the same basic "legendary" mumbojumbo from one iteration to the next, but this is not mythology, it's just the dumbed down stuff spoonfed to people who grew up thinking Aesop's Fables was high literature.
Zelda certainly isn't a full mythology, I don't think any reasonable person would assert that. But I think the various myths of "Link and Zelda" could stack up with some very basic mythological standards. The main problem is that the series doesn't have a whole lot of depth, the message doesn't require a whole lot of interpretation.ethelred said:Except... no, not really at all, sorry!
Okay, though, let's play a game. Tell me how the world was created in Zelda. Tell me how the world will end. Tell me about the various cultures within it and what these people believe about their surroundings and existence. Tell me why it rains in Zelda. Where does the light come from? Why do people dress the way they do? What are the origins of the unique architecture that the series doesn't, by the way, have?
There is no substantive mythology in any reasonable sense of the world in the Zelda series. It is, as I said, cotton candy. It's sweet and gooey but there's really nothing there except pink and sugar and chemicals and air. The series tells a simplified hero tale (and I do mean very simplified) and tends to reiterate the same basic "legendary" mumbojumbo from one iteration to the next, but this is not mythology, it's just the dumbed down stuff spoonfed to people who grew up thinking Aesop's Fables was high literature.
ethelred said:Creation: "The gods appeared... and they created things!"
Wow, if this isn't mythology, well, I just don't know what is! :lol
nli10 said:Better to lack story like Zelda than to lack gameplay like Final Fantasy. Your two characters in armour attack, your two characters in dresses heal. You choose pretty animations from the menu lots of times to allow you to watch cutscenes where people are employed to sculpt the characters hair. 9999 HP does not a game make...
ethelred said:Except... no, not really at all, sorry!
Okay, though, let's play a game. Tell me how the world was created in Zelda. Tell me how the world will end. Tell me about the various cultures within it and what these people believe about their surroundings and existence. Tell me why it rains in Zelda. Where does the light come from? Why do people dress the way they do? What are the origins of the unique architecture that the series doesn't, by the way, have?
There is no substantive mythology in any reasonable sense of the world in the Zelda series. It is, as I said, cotton candy. It's sweet and gooey but there's really nothing there except pink and sugar and chemicals and air. The series tells a simplified hero tale (and I do mean very simplified) and tends to reiterate the same basic "legendary" mumbojumbo from one iteration to the next, but this is not mythology, it's just the dumbed down stuff spoonfed to people who grew up thinking Aesop's Fables was high literature.
creamsugar said:Famitsu 4/23 ~ 4/29 (Unconfirmed)
DS Lite - 219,331
Wii - 74,950
PSP - 31,368
PS3 - 14,700
PS2 - 13,040
Xbox360 - 3,530
FF12RW - 289,325
ethelred said:Creation: "The gods appeared... and they created things!"
Wow, if this isn't mythology, well, I just don't know what is! :lol
vicious_killer_squirrel said:The problem is that a lot of the former posters who used to make these threads entertaining have come to realise the shocking truth:- Nintendo is back on top and is there to stay for the forseeable future, despite whatever big title is on the horizon for PS3. They were in denial for quite some time, but now that they've come to accept this truth, they choose to ignore sales threads because they cannot post their views in them without being humiliated by the numbers.
Think Nintendo fans circa 2002...
Madden made PS3 sell 33% more! Congrats SCEJcreamsugar said:PS3 - 14,700
Kurosaki Ichigo said:Madden made PS3 sell 33% more! Congrats SCEJ
From StudioGuyMN on youtube, commenting on this old US Saturn commercial.It's amazing to see this video again and realize how Sony is pretty much repeating EXACTLY what Sega did wrong! I mean, first you have the very large black box that's much bigger than its predecessor and is extremely over-priced. Next they put out these crazy-ass commercials that try to scare you. Then they release an arcade port of a Virtua Fighter game. And finally, developers realize that the system is just too difficult to develop for and drop support.
The possibility that Nintendo could totally dominate with a system that is not only less powerful than their system of choice, but could do it after a generation as the third-placed loser is shocking to those who use the success of their system of choice as a source of pride. Namely: fanboys. Sony fanboys in particular.spwolf said:why is it so shocking?
You cant discuss anyting with your average N fan in any case, way, way too defensive.
sigh.Stop It said:I cannot tell whether that is sarcasm anymore, that isn't even a jump in real terms, it is still one of the PS3's worst weeks, and still less than a fifth of Wii, if Sony can't get the punters out during one of Japans biggest shopping weeks, they truly are doomed.
As for the rest of the numbers, 200k+ DS sales? Legendary, seriously this console will outsell the PS2 this year, not even a question any more, it also seems like Nintendo didn't/couldn't hold back any more Wiis for golden week, but a sustained 70K+ for the last 3 weeks is nothing to sniff at, still tracking at the same level as DS at the same stage, good stuff, the PS2 is becoming more and more irrelevent in its old age, and the 360 never was relevent.
On a final note, good first week for FF12:RW, non game by end of June?
Look who's talking. :lol :lolspwolf said:why is it so shocking?
You cant discuss anyting with your average N fan in any case, way, way too defensive.
Taurus said:Look who's talking. :lol :lol
And where are the :lols you usually overuse in every post of yours? :lol :lol :lol
:lol :lol
P.s :lol
Ok. And the multiplatform list please?creamsugar said:http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/05/02/103,1178081479,71171,0,0.html
Nintendo's 4/23 ~ 4/29 :lol
1. Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (DS)
2. Super Paper Mario (Wii)
3. Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (DS)
4. Wii Sports (Wii)
5. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Wii)
6. Gyakuten Saiban 4 (DS)
7. One Piece Unlimited Adventure (Wii)
8. Panel de Pon DS (DS)
9. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (DS)
10. Wii Play (Wii)
creamsugar said:http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/05/02/103,1178081479,71171,0,0.html
Nintendo's 4/23 ~ 4/29 :lol
1. Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (DS)
2. Super Paper Mario (Wii)
3. Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (DS)
4. Wii Sports (Wii)
5. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Wii)
6. Gyakuten Saiban 4 (DS)
7. One Piece Unlimited Adventure (Wii)
8. Panel de Pon DS (DS)
9. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (DS)
10. Wii Play (Wii)
I said "HOLY MOLY"creamsugar said:http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/05/02/103,1178081479,71171,0,0.html
Nintendo's 4/23 ~ 4/29 :lol
1. Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (DS)
2. Super Paper Mario (Wii)
3. Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (DS)
4. Wii Sports (Wii)
5. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Wii)
6. Gyakuten Saiban 4 (DS)
7. One Piece Unlimited Adventure (Wii)
8. Panel de Pon DS (DS)
9. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (DS)
10. Wii Play (Wii)
creamsugar said:http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/05/02/103,1178081479,71171,0,0.html
Nintendo's 4/23 ~ 4/29 :lol
1. Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (DS)
2. Super Paper Mario (Wii)
3. Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (DS)
4. Wii Sports (Wii)
5. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Wii)
6. Gyakuten Saiban 4 (DS)
7. One Piece Unlimited Adventure (Wii)
8. Panel de Pon DS (DS)
9. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (DS)
10. Wii Play (Wii)
vicious_killer_squirrel said:The possibility that Nintendo could totally dominate with a system that is not only less powerful than their system of choice, but could do it after a generation as the third-placed loser is shocking to those who use the success of their system of choice as a source of pride. Namely: fanboys. Sony fanboys in particular.
mabuza said:sigh.
creamsugar said:http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/05/02/103,1178081479,71171,0,0.html
Nintendo's 4/23 ~ 4/29 :lol
1. Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (DS)
2. Super Paper Mario (Wii)
3. Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (DS)
4. Wii Sports (Wii)
5. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Wii)
6. Gyakuten Saiban 4 (DS)
7. One Piece Unlimited Adventure (Wii)
8. Panel de Pon DS (DS)
9. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (DS)
10. Wii Play (Wii)
spwolf said:Wii sells well, but Wii games dont, and thats what N will have to work on a bit...
vicious_killer_squirrel said:Perfect rundown of current console climate.
This just in:spwolf said:Nintendo could dominate with system that is 2.5x less expensive? You bet .
And your blah blah about 3rd party exclusives - they certainly are not losing them to Wii, but to 360.
I dont see why anyone should be shocked at position of PS3 in Japan, it is mostly used as BD player as there are no games for it. Sony put themselves in that position and if they are suprised then sucks to be them.
Wii sells well, but Wii games dont, and thats what N will have to work on a bit...
creamsugar said:http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2007/05/02/103,1178081479,71171,0,0.html
Nintendo's 4/23 ~ 4/29 :lol
1. Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (DS)
2. Super Paper Mario (Wii)
3. Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (DS)
4. Wii Sports (Wii)
5. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Wii)
6. Gyakuten Saiban 4 (DS)
7. One Piece Unlimited Adventure (Wii)
8. Panel de Pon DS (DS)
9. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (DS)
10. Wii Play (Wii)