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Media Create Sales 4/9 - 4/15
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test_account
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jj984jj said:
I know, but i dont know that site too well so i have no idea if its reliable or not. And what i quoted was from Maxconsole.net, thats why i said i got them from there
Smiles and Cries
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Oh I thought Bruce went to Tibet?
they need to open even more factories, China is a big place.
Kafel said:
they need to open even more factories, China is a big place.
Miniboss1232
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Kafel said:
Well, I could certainly see how they would look at the games for the 360 and PS3 and not really understand what's so "new" about them. It's kind of the battle that all formats have been waging: the mass market generally doesn't care about fidelity.
DVD-Audio and other high-quality audio formats were supposed to be the new CD. Nope. People were happy with their CDs. Heck, now they're listening to highly compressed audio from iTunes. The reason why CDs took off in the first place was because it was a clear leap in functionality: No rewinding, skip to any track you want to listen to, repeat songs.
The video market is going through this now as well. HD-DVD and BluRay are fighting to become the dominate disc-based video format, but by all sales figures thus far, they haven't even begun to make a dent on DVDs. Just like audio, people are even content with watching highly compressed video from iTunes and other places. Again, it's not about fidelity, it's about functionality. No rewinding, skip to any scene you want, extra features.
And here we are with the video game market. We have two platforms that are primarily concerned with increasing the visual fidelity over the previous generation. And then we have one platform that is more concerned with changing how games are interacted with, the functionality, so to speak.
With that said, it seems quite surprising that a lot of people are amazed at Nintendo's success. They decided to not play the hardware numbers game because, for the most part, the mass market could care less about that.
Eteric Rice
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Kafel said:
So their success is because of China!
JUST LIKE BATMAN'S!
Eteric Rice said:
Well IMO there are a couple of lessons here.
1. Each generation has very little resemblance to the previous generation
2. Brand strength is a very weak advantage.
People quickly readjust to a new console cycle.. The consumer is smart enough to figure out that it's a whole new ballgame each time. Only a small number of the overall game buying public has a loyalty to a particular console brand. If a company want's to keep it's audience base from the last system, they need to make sure the new system has all the same quality's.
I think microsoft has managed to do that... The 360 is an appealing system for you're average xbox consumer, and it's probably grown the brand too although not as much as MS would have hoped. The wii definitly appeals to the GC audience but it also draws in a much larger group of people. The ps3 has failed to excite the ps2 audience so far because if they were buying it, it would be far ahead of everybody.
I also think that between the big 3, sony probably has the most disloyal fans because the don't have a halo or a mario or a zelda.. They've been very dependent on 3rd party support. People buy sony consoles for Square RPG's, metal gear, DMC, GTA and those fans will follow those franchises werever they go. MS know's that halo is always going to be an xbox franchise and Nintendo knows that zelda is always going to be on their next console. There is a measure of saftey in that.
eggs. scrambled
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Krowley said:
This is a good point. For the people purchasing PS2s in the last several years, it was very much a budget system -- just over US$100 -- that could be fueled with an endless variety of budget, $20 games. That's a totally different profile than $600 + $60/game. What's more -- let's face it -- many of the people who purchased PS2s soon after their introduction probably haven't touched their PS2s in a long time. My guess is there's a substantial attrition rate as people move along with their lives.
For Sony, PS2 success means little to nothing for how they'll fare with the PS3. It's a new world for them, and apparently a pretty grim one at that.
Wiitard said:
Well I think that even if sony loses this gen, they're going to go out of their way trying to establish some strong first party franchises. They already have some decent stuff, but nothing other than gran tursimo that's truly powerhouse. They seem to be focusing on building brands like god of war and making new stuff.
In a long-term sense, it's a good strategy for them. I'm running the ms library through my head and I think MS only has halo... But halo is obviously huge and has the power to sell consoles. Nintendo has the biggest advantage in this area and they always have.
PantherLotus
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Well hello there, MC crowd.
Miniboss1232
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PantherLotus said:
Legendary thread confirmed?
PantherLotus
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birdchili said:
vanguardian1
poor, homeless and tasteless
Welcome back, PantherLotus! Please don't leave us like that again, we missed ya. :lol
PantherLotus
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Farmboy said:
I'm not sure what you want me to respond with.
If you want the funny, press [1].
If you want the analyst, press [2].
Shin Johnpv
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Comparing Wii, PS3, PS2, and GC from the day they launched till now Blows my Mind.
The Wii is insanely ahead of the PS2 at this same point in it's life, and the PS2 had no competition then. I really don't understand how people think this momentum is just going to flat line.
The Wii is insanely ahead of the PS2 at this same point in it's life, and the PS2 had no competition then. I really don't understand how people think this momentum is just going to flat line.
ghostlyjoe
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Shin Johnpv said:
They don't THINK it will flatline. They HOPE it will flatline. Key distinction.
PantherLotus
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Fuzzy said:
I'm bullish on Wii sales.
SouthernDragon
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On next week's MC Fanfic:
Surprise appearance by seer Patrick Lamenti.
Surprise appearance by seer Patrick Lamenti.
Shin Johnpv
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PantherLotus said:
2 please.
PantherLotus
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Shin Johnpv said:
I'm bullish on Wii sales.
VGCharts numbers posted before the official MC numbers are ioi's guesses based on early Famitsu data. He'll likely adjust them when the MC numbers are released.test_account said:I know, but i dont know that site too well so i have no idea if its reliable or not. And what i quoted was from Maxconsole.net, thats why i said i got them from there
Those PS2 and GC numbers aren't for the correct time period. Available Media Create data only goes back to 2002-12-30 so the PS2 and GC charts start there instead of their respective launches. If you wanna compare the four systems in question from launch you can use Famitsu numbers.Shin Johnpv said:
Shin Johnpv said:
That graph is off for some reason. Check the rest of the graphs in Joshua's post.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6145019&postcount=562
Miniboss1232
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Jokeropia said:
Hmm. Wow. PS3 bomba total.
And if the Wii just had one nice big shipment, it'd pull ahead of the PS2.
Shin Johnpv
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ahhhhhh Damn you Media Create!
Still it's impressive that it's tracking right along side the PS2 while the GC is kicking the PS3's ass. :lol
Still it's impressive that it's tracking right along side the PS2 while the GC is kicking the PS3's ass. :lol
richman555
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I wonder when PS2s where first spotted sitting on store shelves. Is it possible that Nintendo is hurting themselves by not being able (right now) to crank out more Wiis?
Miniboss1232
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richman555 said:I wonder when PS2s where first spotted sitting on store shelves. Is it possible that Nintendo is hurting themselves by not being able (right now) to crank out more Wiis?
They upped production as of this month. I don't think we'll ever know the concrete answer to this question, simply because we'll have no facts to back it up.
The only thing I can say is that the PS2 was also similarly scarce during its first few months, and it didn't even have a worldwide launch. Clearly, that didn't hurt Sony at all.
andthebeatgoeson
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PantherLotus said:
Jesus, did they let another 1000 juniors in again? WTF?
Welcome back. I think someone stole your computer and was posting your charts. Some bastard...
ghostlyjoe
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richman555 said:I wonder when PS2s where first spotted sitting on store shelves. Is it possible that Nintendo is hurting themselves by not being able (right now) to crank out more Wiis?
Depends.
If Nintendo's goal is to sell every Wii theoretically possible, then they very well are hurting themselves by not meeting immediate demand.
If Nintendo's goal is maximize profit, then they can't sell every Wii theoretically possible, as that would most likely mean overshipping to some degree.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
ghostlyjoe said:
Perhaps profit is dependent on demand?
(artificial or otherwise)
ghostlyjoe said:
Neither of this is true. They sold every piece they manufactured and then some and are now in the process of looking for a new manufacturing partner to increase supply
nextgenbiz said:
If you may recall both Sony and Nintendo announced the same shipment targets for Fiscal year ending March 31 2007 of 6 million units, and only Nintendo has met/exceed those forecasts. And 6 million was originally seen as very bullish for both companies but people assumed PS3 would have no trouble selling that many because it was heir apparent.
Well if you ask me it can only hurt Nintendo to not have enough consoles. What if someone want one now but cant find it, and then they change their mind when it becomes available?
Simple logic. They should try and sell all they can.
Do we have number this week? What's the golden week thing?
Simple logic. They should try and sell all they can.
Do we have number this week? What's the golden week thing?
DeadyFernGarden
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Didn't Nintendo halt production of the gamecube to try and increase production which led to crazy shortages?
JoshuaJSlone
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Ahaha, it is nice in a way to become less necessary to a thread. One person asks for a comparison, another shows how it can be done. One person makes an easy mistake, another corrects.
Well, they didn't halt production to increase production, but because they simply had enough. However, it did come back to bite them a bit when GCN demand spiked holiday 2003 with the $99 price and Zelda collection disc and supply was a bit short.DeadyFernGarden said:
titiklabingapat
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I think the fact that people are still lining up in April tells us that the Wii is compelling enough. People really want it bad.alejob said: