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Week   Gundam    Golf 5
0      19,315    12,187
1      44,000    28,829
2      32,115    24,289
3      21,635    21,321
4      20,459
5      16,889
6      14,520
7      11,948

:lol

thanks donny. the gundam bump lasted about two weeks. golf bump has lasted 3. golf bump increased the sales on the previous week by a higher percentage.

even if you just look at absolute figures gundam bump pushed about 37,000 consoles over what it had been selling weekly before release in it's first three weeks. Golf has done about the same, and there's no way PS3 hardware is going to drop back down to 12,000 next week.

Golf Bump wins.

 

[tanod]

Too early for PS3 printing money gifs?

...

:lol

EDIT: Who is the guy that's convinced that 360 will get over a million in Japan?

 

[Culex]

Wii sales up, declining trend aborted.

 

[KINGMOKU]

:lol Everytime I see charts from anywhere anymore(UK, Japan, U.S., e.t.c.) I laugh my butt off when I think about what the big third-party devs have in store for the Wii.

Pathetic ass Capcom, Konami, e.t.c. They and so many other devs are going to miss out on one of the biggest holiday shopping seasons ever for videogames.

:lol

 

[Hcoregamer00]

I would love to see a mix of the "Mature" and Cel-Shaded styles. I don't see why they have to be mutually exclusive.

A game in Wind Waker style that had the atmosphere of Majora's Mask could quite possibly be my favourite Zelda ever.

Bingo, I love the cell shaded style.

If they were more stylistic like using JGR style that would be quite awesome. I hated Link's design in Wind Waker and it was too far away from the original art.

 

[tanod]

I would love to see a mix of the "Mature" and Cel-Shaded styles. I don't see why they have to be mutually exclusive.

A game in Wind Waker style that had the atmosphere of Majora's Mask could quite possibly be my favourite Zelda ever.

Dragon Quest 8 is a perfect example showing that it works.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Dragon Quest 8 is a perfect example showing that it works.

So does Jet Grind Radio, The Idolmaster, and Eternal Sonata.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

I would love to see a mix of the "Mature" and Cel-Shaded styles. I don't see why they have to be mutually exclusive.

A game in Wind Waker style that had the atmosphere of Majora's Mask could quite possibly be my favourite Zelda ever.

Hell, I'd buy it.

Then again... slap the name Zelda on just about anything and I tend to buy it.

*sigh*

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0763630616/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[Xavien]

see, a smart ass comment would be better accepted if you could do the math

So i was out by 1,000-ish, the point still stands, all the "OMG the PS3 is selling so much!" is a real sign of massively lowered expectations compared to 2006.

Like the GC, the PS3 is gonna be a "this game WILL turn the tide! but never does" console.

 

[Obaid]

since this table wasnt posted in this thread yet:

Edit: etwas posted but i will let this table anyway

ps. FF VII 360 remake confirmed

 

[jesusraz]

Yeah, might as well keep that table up, since it's a bit clearer than my version. But at least people can see the games 31-50 in my earlier post as well

By the way: anyone care to tell me how well DK: King of Swing (GBA) sold, please? Jungle Climber just seems to have had a stronger start...want to see if my suspicions are right.

 

[ComputerNerd]

PS3 holding steady.

 

[GDJustin]

Gooo Zelda. Keep fighting the good fight, REAL DS games...

 

[Fuzzy]

Yeah, might as well keep that table up, since it's a bit clearer than my version. But at least people can see the games 31-50 in my earlier post as well

By the way: anyone care to tell me how well DK: King of Swing (GBA) sold, please? Jungle Climber just seems to have had a stronger start...want to see if my suspicions are right.

DK: King of Swing sold 10K the first week and only 50K for all of 2005. I don't know what sold since then.


EDIT: I think cvxfreak will enjoy our conversation from that thread. :lol

 

[botticus]

since this table wasnt posted in this thread yet:

It's too bad the PS2 screws up the nice numbers in the YTDs in that chart. DS = Wii x 2 = PSP x 2 = PS3 x 2 != PS2 x 2

 

[Jokeropia]

Wii up, PS3 down. What now, spwolf?

 

[Stop It]

DK: King of Swing sold 10K the first week and only 50K for all of 2005. I don't know what sold since then.


EDIT: I think cvxfreak will enjoy our conversation from that thread. :lol

Coincidentally, that was week one of Brain Training, and it hasnt left us yet, over 2 years later, amazing stuff.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

Wii up, PS3 down. What now, spwolf?

Clearly, it's just a fluke. Wii gets a little breather before the inevitable.

 

[frankthurk]

Clearly, it's just a fluke. Wii gets a little breather before the inevitable.

Canada has redeemed him.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Just thought of this, but what if Wii shipments have decreased because Nintendo feels they won't have enough Wii's out there this fall?

So they shrink the shipments so they can continue to gather stock.

It's an idea.

 

[jesusraz]

DK: King of Swing sold 10K the first week and only 50K for all of 2005. I don't know what sold since then.

Cheers for that Fuzzy. So my suspicions were right, DK: JC is set to beat the GBA edition in its first two weeks on sale. Bit like Mario vs. DK: March of the Minis also trumped the GBA original. Nice to see games like these getting a new breath of life on DS after seemingly plummeting without a trace previously.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Wii comparisons: At 37 weeks, Wii is where GCN was at 147.7 weeks (July 9, 2004), where GBA was at 30.9 weeks (October 20, 2001), where DS was at 45.1 weeks (October 9, 2005), where PS2 was at 49.5 weeks (February 7, 2001), and where PSP was at 72.6 weeks (April 27, 2006).

PS3 comparisons: At 40 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 4.6 weeks (March 29, 2000), where PSP was at 15.0 weeks (March 20, 2005), where GCN was at 17.0 weeks (January 5, 2002), and where Wii was at 5.7 weeks (January 5, 2007).

DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 82.1 / 17.9, bringing total share to 76.4 / 23.6. If DS stops selling and PSP continues at this week's rate, it catches up 405.2 weeks (May 19, 2015).

PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 24.7 / 75.3, keeping total shares the same as last week once I round them to a tenth of a percent: 24.1 / 75.9. If Wii stops selling and PS3 continues at this week's rate, it catches up in 107.3 weeks (September 1, 2009).

PSP vs Wii: At this week's rates, Wii catches up to PSP in 74.9 weeks (January 18, 2009).

PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, DS catches up to PS2 in 13.4 weeks (November 4, 2007) at ~20.82 million apiece.


Total hardware sales for the year have reached 9.85 million. Usually I'd wait for the 10 million to bring it up, but this does make 2007 pass 2005's year-end total of 9.81 million with 20 weeks to spare.

you have to remmeber when gundam came out ps3 was doing 20000 a week, so naturally sales would double whilst when mng came out it was doing 13000 a week. big difference there

Here I've shown 3 weeks before and after THE weeks. The pre, during, and post-Gundam period so far wins out, but the post- dropoff is smaller in the case of MnG5 to where they almost touch at post- week 2.

 

[mclem]

At 37 weeks, Wii is where GCN was at 147.7 weeks (July 9, 2004), where GBA was at 30.9 weeks (October 20, 2001), where DS was at 45.1 weeks (October 9, 2005), where PS2 was at 49.5 weeks (February 7, 2001), and where PSP was at 72.6 weeks (April 27, 2006).

What week was the start of Easter?

 

[Fuzzy]

What week was the start of Easter?

If we use the launch of the Pink and Blue DS handhelds, 21.

 

[Link]

While "Easter" was the point when the DS pulled ahead of the PSP weekly again, sales didn't really explode until the holidays of that year..

 

[donny2112]

What week was the start of Easter?

#17.

Fuzzy,

I believe "Easter" started with Kirby's launch, which also had some new colors, IIRC. It stopped a 10-week run of PSP outselling the DS.

Edit:
With a new week of sales coming tomorrow night, this will likely be the shortest MC thread in a very long time. :lol

 

[Fuzzy]

#17.

Fuzzy,

I believe "Easter" started with Kirby's launch, which also had some new colors, IIRC. It stopped a 10-week run of PSP outselling the DS.

Edit:
With a new week of sales coming tomorrow night, this will likely be the shortest MC thread in a very long time. :lol

You're right, Kirby + White DS + Black DS started Easter (well it was really Alcibiades).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78657

 

[Brak]

Wii comparisons: At 37 weeks, Wii is where GCN was at 147.7 weeks (July 9, 2004), where GBA was at 30.9 weeks (October 20, 2001), where DS was at 45.1 weeks (October 9, 2005), where PS2 was at 49.5 weeks (February 7, 2001), and where PSP was at 72.6 weeks (April 27, 2006).

So the Wii is now 2 FULL years ahead of the GCN. wow.

The DS could potentially hit 19 million next week too but I doubt that they will ship enough units.

 

[Fuzzy]

So the Wii is now 2 FULL years ahead of the GCN. wow.

It should pass the GCN LTD before December.

 

[d+pad]

PSP vs Wii: At this week's rates, Wii catches up to PSP in 74.9 weeks (January 18, 2009).

Did you mean to say PS2 instead of PSP? If so, I'm amazed the Wii could catch the PS2 so quickly (of course, that's a loooooong way off).

 

[Stumpokapow]

Did you mean to say PS2 instead of PSP? If so, I'm amazed the Wii could catch the PS2 so quickly (of course, that's a loooooong way off).

No he meant PSP.

 

[Frillen]

Did you mean to say PS2 instead of PSP? If so, I'm amazed the Wii could catch the PS2 so quickly (of course, that's a loooooong way off).

No, he meant the PSP You have to understand that the PSP is actually selling quite decent with 30k+ per week in Japan.

 

[d+pad]

No, he meant the PSP You have to understand that the PSP is actually selling quite decent with 30k+ per week in Japan.

Huh, well color me surprised! I didn't know the PSP had sold that much thus far. What are the lifetime sales of the PSP?

 

[Frillen]

Huh, well color me surprised! I didn't know the PSP had sold that much thus far. What are the lifetime sales of the PSP?

Japan (in case you didn't know):


1.) Nintendo DS - 147,205 | 135,804 | 4,840,883 | 18,846,562
2.) Wii - 65,120 | 61,498 | 2,430,558 | 3,350,201
3.) PlayStation Portable - 32,147 | 33,886 | 1,287,666| 5,819,795
4.) PlayStation 3 - 21,321 | 24,289 | 605,741| 1,063,299
5.) PlayStation 2 - 12,545 | 12,784 | 501,415 | 20,656,274
6.) Xbox 360 - 2,112 | 2,691 | 135,234 | 399,936
7.) Game Boy Advance - 520 | 641 | 43,991 | 15,342,070
8.) GameCube - 131 | 68 | 9,131 | 4,178,599

 

[Thomper]

Huh, well color me surprised! I didn't know the PSP had sold that much thus far. What are the lifetime sales of the PSP?

You have to consider that it's at this rate. That would be considering Wii remains at 65.000 a week and PSP at 31.000 a week. Wii would only gain about 30.000 units a week, which would make it quite a long while indeed. However, it's pretty likely Wii will continue to sell more and more a week with shipments slowly growing over time, while PSP's sales will probably go down over time. Wii will surely pass PSP a couple of months before january '08.

 

[thaivo]

You have to consider that it's at this rate. That would be considering Wii remains at 65.000 a week and PSP at 31.000 a week. Wii would only gain about 30.000 units a week, which would make it quite a long while indeed. However, it's pretty likely Wii will continue to sell more and more a week with shipments slowly growing over time, while PSP's sales will probably go down over time. Wii will surely pass PSP a couple of months before january '08.

That and holiday Wii sales are going to be much more than PSP, even with the delay in production increase.

 

[titiklabingapat]

What's the pattern for market leader consoles anyway? Don't they exponentially increase YOY on thier second year, peaking in their third and subsequently declining at a not-so rapid pace in the 4th and 5th?

 

[Frillen]

Too early for PS3 printing money gifs?

...

:lol

EDIT: Who is the guy that's convinced that 360 will get over a million in Japan?

Doesn't Sony lose money for each PS3 they sell? So more like PS3 eating money gifs.

 

[Moor-Angol]

DK: King of Swing sold 10K the first week and only 50K for all of 2005. I don't know what sold since then.

everything started that week...

 

[d+pad]

Japan (in case you didn't know):

God, I've been coming here long enough that I should have known where to look. Thanks for pointing it out all the same!

 

[Jokeropia]

Now where is Cheese's parser? I'm spoiled by it's neat formatting.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Japan (in case you didn't know):
2.) Wii - 65,120 | 61,498 | 2,430,558 | 3,350,201
8.) GameCube - 131 | 68 | 9,131 | 4,178,599

I didn't even notice that the wii is 700,000 away from hitting the gamcube LTD in Japan :lol

 

[Clever Pun]

I didn't even notice that the wii is 700,000 away from hitting the gamcube LTD in Japan :lol

another fun way to look at it is, according to JoshuaJSlone, the Wii is where the GC was at on July 9, 2004. So in over 3 years the GC only sold 700,000 units - an amount that, at this weeks rate, the Wii can do in 10.75 weeks :lol

 

[Hcoregamer00]

another fun way to look at it is, according to JoshuaJSlone, the Wii is where the GC was at on July 9, 2004. So in over 3 years the GC only sold 700,000 units - an amount that, at this weeks rate, the Wii can do in 10.75 weeks :lol

Good times, especially for Nintendo.

If you told me that the Wii would outsell the gamecube when it was announced I would have said "what the hell are you smoking, the PS3 will kill the Wii because they didn't gimp the console"

Boy was I wrong.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Good times, especially for Nintendo.

If you told me that the Wii would outsell the gamecube when it was announced I would have said "what the hell are you smoking, the PS3 will kill the Wii because they didn't gimp the console"

Boy was I wrong.

Everybody always knows for certain what the market wants, and then it's like the market just turns around and goes the exact opposite direction.

Gaming is unpredictable at best, and unstable at worst. Still... makes it a ton o' fun when these market shakeups happen.

 

[kame-sennin]

I personally LOVED the cel-shaded graphics in WW, Zelda Wii in it would be awesome...just....rework Link's model. Seriously, I loved every other characters' models EXCEPT Link's...

I would love to see a mix of the "Mature" and Cel-Shaded styles. I don't see why they have to be mutually exclusive.

I agree with this. Why not just use the character designs from TP and cel-shade them? Seems like the best of both worlds to me.

 

[PantherLotus]

NEXT GEN WEEKLY SALES 36

Since 11/27/07:
37 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales.
31 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.

Trends
Trends are generally determined by the last 4 weeks of data. Averages are determined by total sales divided by the number of weeks posted above. Outside factors are considered (such as big releases, holidays, etc) when determining current trends and establishing predictions. Trend results are not an average.

360 - Established Trend: 2k. Next Gen Avg = 6,106. Post Holiday Avg = 3,774.
Wii - Adjusting Trend: 60-78k. Next Gen Avg = 90,546. Post Holiday Avg = 72,104.
PS3 - Slowing Trend: 17-25k. Next Gen Avg = 24,511. Post Holiday Avg = 17,284.

Expectations for Next Week
Expectations are predictions only, and are based upon trends, outside factors, and sales history. Previous week's success rate included for accountability.

360 - 2.5k <-- within .8k the previous week. This will seemingly never change.
Wii - 70k <-- within 5k the previous week. Looks like a return to the 64-75k shipment cycles. I expect sales to remain cyclical for the time being.
PS3 - 17k <-- Within 3k the previous week. Will sales continue to slide to pre-minna golf levels (9-13k) or will they establish a new mesa from which to peer upwards? (15-25k) I'm going to guess somewhere right in the middle for the next 4-6 weeks (10-18k).

Significant Notes:
&#9679; The Wii has extended its lead to 2,286,902 over the PS3.
&#9679; 88,553 consoles sold this week. Wii had 73.54% of all console sales.
&#9679; The Wii only outsold the PS3 3.05:1 this week. Iwata is ashamed.
&#9679; The 5 million Wii watch party continues...expected to cross the 5 mil. mark before 01/01/08.
&#9679; The PS3 has actually gained market share for THREE weeks in a row!! (21.85% -> 21.95% -> 22.05% ->22.09%) -- Should be noted that this is at the expense of the 360, as the Wii is still gaining as well.
&#9679; The Wii has had 67% market share for over 3 months now, but still hasn't reached 70%. Is this the plateau that this market will accept?

 

[mj1108]

Everybody always knows for certain what the market wants, and then it's like the market just turns around and goes the exact opposite direction.

When people say "the market wants this", they tend to talk more about what they want for themselves. They think that because that's what they want, that's what EVERYONE wants.

What one person wants =/= what everyone wants

 

[Natsume]

Does anyone have any figures for the previous Mario Party games in Japan to compare with number 8?

 

[creamsugar]

The accurate Wii Sports figure is 1,999,149