No, it's not. But the big drops for both PS3 and 360 versions prove how much more frontloaded this game is going to be comparing to Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.Zeouterlimits said:But it's not shocking...
No, it's not. But the big drops for both PS3 and 360 versions prove how much more frontloaded this game is going to be comparing to Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.Zeouterlimits said:But it's not shocking...
bttb said:Sinobi's blog updated with some Famitsu figures.
[NDS] Tomodachi Collection - 188k (2.065m)
[WII] New Super Mario Bro. Wii - 570k (1.972m)
[NDS] Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver - 109k
[WII] Wii Fit Plus - 104k
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2 - 85k
[WII] NHK Kouhaku Quiz Gassen - 5.6k
DSL - 13k
DSi - 111k
DSi LL - 75k
PSP - 78k
PSP go - 3.2k
Wii - 208k
PS3 - 245k
360 - 7.1k
Chris1964 said:No, it's not. But the big drops for both PS3 and 360 versions prove how much more frontloaded this game is going to be comparing to Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.
Busaiku said:Wow, the Inazuma Eleven number is crazy.
I didn't ever expect them to reach that high.
It'll be a million seller in a few weeks given this trend.
Level 5 really hit it so far with the DS.
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Cygnus X-1 said:I wonder why Nintendo is not interested to buy Level 5.
About GT5. What are the expectations for this game? My opinion is that the fall of the series will continue. Not a huge drop from GT4 but after seeing what Gran Turismo Portable did (we are talking about PSP and Japan here, where some shit games have sold much more) I don't expect it to fire up the charts. A big first week and the usual decline after that.duckroll said:Yeah, I think it's interesting because we will most likely be seeing a VERY similar scenario with GT5P -> GT5. Some older PS3 games seemed to have started really really low, and picked up a decent fanbase as the PS3 started to sell more in Japan.
cw_sasuke said:Maybe because L5 wants to stay independent and they are doin just fine this way?
Chris1964 said:About GT5. What are the expectations for this game? My opinion is that the fall of the series will continue. Not a huge drop from GT4 but after seeing what Gran Turismo Portable did (we are talking about PSP and Japan here, where some shit games have sold much more) I don't expect it to fire up the charts. A big first week and the usual decline after that.
I can find you at least 10 bigger bombs this year than this, if you talk about budget and expectations.ccbfan said:Wow at TOG though. The legs were worse than I thought. It'll hit 200K because of the shipment and bomba bins but I'd consider this probably the biggest bomba of the year.
Moor-Angol said:So Mario saved Wii winter holidays.
But 2010 will be a different story...
Chris1964 said:Same happened with Media Create
GCN: 4.180.061
PS3: 4.276.480
schuelma said:Holy crap at nsmb wii on famitsu. If there is supply it could conceivably hit 3 million in 2 weeks.
and it looks like MC will be tracking Wii lower again this holiday. Think the same thing happened last year
I'm just quoting this because I think there is an inherent funniness to it :lolOnesimos said:At least Tales of Graces is not like the Xbox 360 version of Modern Warfare 2 which dropped a shocking 37 slots from last week.
sphinx said:When ever I see this, I just can't believe it. If I understand correctly:
PS3 from launch 2006 to date 2009 sells as much as NGC from launch 2001 to 2004, where it completed its life cycle. So I think we are comparing a flop to a flop right there, with numbers at hand.
thing is, PS3 slim right now is truly the console's 2nd chance, a 2nd life. Sony must be very thankful with the japanese for actually giving the console another chance.
Do know of any other console that had this kind of comeback? I remember the saturn getting a 2nd breath as well but not sure if that counts as a comeback.
Chris1964 said:I can find you at least 10 bigger bombs this year than this, if you talk about budget and expectations.
DavidDayton said:I wonder what Super Mario USA sold...
Start with Gran Turismo Portable, continue with some HD fighting games and some Wii RPGs, adventures and platforms at the beginning of the year.ccbfan said:In Japan? Can you name them. Cause in foreign markets I can think of some but I can't think of any in Japan.
Torhthelm Tídwald said:As far as I know, this was first released as part of Super Mario All Stars. The first release it got on its own was Super Mario Advance, at .88m. If you are referring to its release in Japan before it got they attached the Mario brand for the US market, then I can't tell you. Numbers from that far back are pretty hard to find.
Chris1964 said:Start with Gran Turismo Portable, continue with some HD fighting games and some Wii RPGs, adventures and platforms at the beginning of the year.
Moor-Angol said:So Mario saved Wii winter holidays.
But 2010 will be a different story...
sphinx said:When ever I see this, I just can't believe it. If I understand correctly:
PS3 from launch 2006 to date 2009 sells as much as NGC from launch 2001 to 2004, where it completed its life cycle. So I think we are comparing a flop to a flop right there, with numbers at hand.
thing is, PS3 slim right now is truly the console's 2nd chance, a 2nd life. Sony must be very thankful with the japanese for actually giving the console another chance.
Do know of any other console that had this kind of comeback? I remember the saturn getting a 2nd breath as well but not sure if that counts as a comeback.
Yes, what a disaster that game was in sales...duckroll said:Let's not forget Sakura Note. Even though they probably didn't expect much after Contact's terrible showing, it's obvious they were hoping it would do much better if it had big names like Uematsu behind it. I'm sure MMV didn't greenlight the game expecting it to sell... worse.
EXGN said:Wait, why do you say the GC's life was only to 2004?
Zelda and Galaxy 2 along with WiiRelax will be the heavy hitters. Right now NCL's board of directors do a synchronized facepalm that they didn't release a new 2D Mario during the GameCube era. 2D games never lost their popularity on Nintendo systems, Nintendo just stopped making them for consoles for some reason(The Stamper brothers and Takeda circle jerking about SGi workstations during those meetings perhaps?).:lolschuelma said:I guarantee you Q1 2010 will have better sales than 2009. Way too early to predict 2010 given how nintendo operates
Cosmonaut X said:I don't have the numbers to hand, but I think it may be fair to say that the GC had pretty much done selling significant numbers by then. Will check...
EXGN said:I know at least Resident Evil 4 hit in 2005, surely that must've moved hardware?
Chris1964 said:Media Create GCN years
2001: 936.269
2002: 1.130.346
2003: 1.191.719
2004: 562.075
2005: 273.180
2006: 75.879
2007: 10.593
Do you mean both consoles to outsell both portables? This hasn't happened before.cvxfreak said:When was the last time the consoles outsold the portables? PS3 Slim launch?
EXGN said:Wow, that's ridiculous. Didn't realize the GC was such a bomb.
Chris1964 said:But the big drops for both PS3 and 360 versions prove how much more frontloaded this game is going to be comparing to Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.
Why buy the cow when the cow is already willing to produce the milk, pasteurize it, sell it in your marketplace, and cut you in on the profits?Cygnus X-1 said:I wonder why Nintendo is not interested to buy Level 5.
Whaa? It's definitely not quite what some of us expected, but others have done a lot worse than, say, missing expecations by a third.ccbfan said:Wow at TOG though. The legs were worse than I thought. It'll hit 200K because of the shipment and bomba bins but I'd consider this probably the biggest bomba of the year.
Yeah, plotting them both from launch we see a slope change at very similar times.jeremy1456 said:I know you signified 'console' but the PSP certainly had a similar comeback.
Wikipedia says July 14, 1992. Yes, 2 years after Super Mario World and 1 before Super Mario All-Stars. Given that, I doubt it was very huge on Famicom.jeremy1456 said:I'm positive it had a Famicom standalone release.
I doubt NSMB would have had such a huge amount of success on GCN because it's really a bit of a matter of mindshare, too. Mario Sunshine also did way less than Mario Galaxy and don't let me get started about Mario Kart...[Nintex] said:Zelda and Galaxy 2 along with WiiRelax will be the heavy hitters. Right now NCL's board of directors do a synchronized facepalm that they didn't release a new 2D Mario during the GameCube era. 2D games never lost their popularity on Nintendo systems, Nintendo just stopped making them for consoles for some reason(The Stamper brothers and Takeda circle jerking about SGi workstations during those meetings perhaps?).:lol
schuelma said:Yeah really interesting all around. PS3 is doing better than I expected, Wii I think I pegged pretty well, but as someone who probably was more bullish on NSMB Wii than most I am absolutely shocked at these numbers. I mean, it really looks like it could hit 5 million. Amazing. Nintendo has effed up a lot with the Wii, but when they get something right they really get it right. Now we will see if it can carry hardware for a quarter or 2
JoshuaJSlone said:Whaa? It's definitely not quite what some of us expected, but others have done a lot worse than, say, missing expecations by a third.
Moor-Angol said:So Mario saved Wii winter holidays.
But 2010 will be a different story...
JoshuaJSlone said:Yeah, plotting them both from launch we see a slope change at very similar times.
Wii PS3
119.965 60.654
41.243 28.144
32.333 20.690
26.770 17.708
23.278 17.405
20.412 16.082
21.016 18.656
16.973 16.149
17.876 36.513
16.560 39.835
17.941 28.014
18.095 25.435
17.276 22.825
15.525 20.362
13.349 16.701
13.221 62.527
18.439 23.351
21.546 23.588
24.397 18.483 -> Golden Week
sphinx said:Interesting, I never thought the PSP was considered at one time a flop in Japan then made a comeback.
I asume it was the time japanese decided to go apeshit about Monster Hunter (?).
No, it was only PSP 2000 if you talk about hardware.Rocksteady33 said:I believe it was a the Monster Hunter 2/PSP 2000 combo that brought it out of the dead. Wasn't it?
Golden Week doesn't look so 'Golden' to me, I think that if Nintendo wants to take advantage of it next year they need some sort of important software release at the same time. Wasn't there a DS game that did really good because they launched it just before Golden Week?Chris1964 said:Media Create Wii and PS3 2009 sales until Golden Week
2009 Golden Week was pathetic for all systems. There was a lack of high profile games.[Nintex] said:Golden Week doesn't look so 'Golden' to me, I think that if Nintendo wants to take advantage of it next year they need some sort of important software release at the same time. Wasn't there a DS game that did really good because they launched it just before Golden Week?
Michan said: