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soundwave05
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I think the Wii might get a FFXIII side story or something like that if it takes off in Japan. But other projects starting from scratch .... Square-Enix will probably give the Wii a truckload of those if it sells well enough. Stuff like Kingdom Hearts, FF7 Remake, DQX, would go to the Wii in that scenario.
Segata Sanshiro
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Yeah, I'd say a Wii installment of the Fabula Nova Cashcowis was likely even before the last few months, but now it seems like a perfect idea.
Eteric Rice
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The PS3 is going to get XIII weather the PS3 sells like shit or not. I think it would cost them a lot more money to go back and downgrade everything for the Wii.
I do expect to see some spin off titles that will do well. If Crystal Chronicles can prove to be a good single player game, as well as a good multiplayer one, I'd have no problem with buying it.
Nintendo's first and second party stuff can sustain them for this year, most likely. It's next year that the third parties will truely have to step up to the plate. With more and more developers announcing support for the Wii every day, it sounds (so far) like the Wii will have some stuff next year especially.
I do expect to see some spin off titles that will do well. If Crystal Chronicles can prove to be a good single player game, as well as a good multiplayer one, I'd have no problem with buying it.
Nintendo's first and second party stuff can sustain them for this year, most likely. It's next year that the third parties will truely have to step up to the plate. With more and more developers announcing support for the Wii every day, it sounds (so far) like the Wii will have some stuff next year especially.
Hero said:
So just because Blue Dragon didn't cause the X360 to sell a million systems, and because the X360 has not taken the lead in Japan and become the best selling next-gen system of the three with support 3x greater than any of its opponents like I said it would. Just because of a little thing like that, you do not listen to the truth about what is going to happen in 2007/2008?
cvxfreak said:
I know. I wish more 3rd parties could sell better than FFIII DS!
Avalon said:
I think it's at 970K now. I think it will stop selling significantly at about 1.1 Million but a re-release will bring it back up in due time.
If FFXIII is the first original FF not to sell 2 Million copies since FFIV (which I believe is above 2M if you combine the PSone and SFC versions but not GBA version) I won't be in the least bit surprised.
Probably not. If the Wii continues to outsell the PS3 like it is then the game currently known as FFXIII will be delayed and delayed and then likely turned into a side-story. If S-E puts the game on the wrong system, it could cost them millions in unit sales, billions of yen, and jeopordize the reputation & future of the series ... It'll be worth it to them to start over.Eteric Rice said:
The same is true for other third parties. They are not going to wait a year and hope Sony turns things around. They are going to be determining where their resources are going to be focused very soon. If the PS3's sales don't meet their expectations they will delay their games until it does ... and if it still doesn't they may pulling advertising money or even shelve the title altogether. When this happens a void will be created that won't be easily filled. Even if the PS3 hardware sales recover at the end of this year, the games that were lost between now and then will only drag the system back to where it is now. It is a no-win situation to wait.
Look at what happened to the DS. Most third parties bet on the PSP and the DSs line-up suffered terrible in the first few months. It took a solid year of the DS kicking the PSP's ass before we started to see the DS's third party support begin to surpass the PSP's. Third parties aren't waiting with the Wii. They've been increasing their support since E3. We are already seeing delays on many PS3 projects and hearing rumors of companies reducing support. If these sales continue more and more publishers will be doing the same. But unlike the DS, there doesn't appear to be much confidence in Sony's first party line-up carrying the system.
Bottom line is, Sony can not wait for someone else to rescue their system. They have to act now to rebuild their image and make the public want to buy the PS3. That means better advertising, price drops, big announcements/money-hats, better support, more downloadable games, better use of the system's features, etc... This is the PS3's golden hour... The more time that passes the harder it will be to recover.
Eteric Rice
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That reminds me. Final Fantasy VI is coming out on the GBA in a few days... I MUST own it.
Anyway, yeah, Final Fantasy XIII will remain on the PS3. I can see other franchises going to the Wii, though. Stuff like the main DragonQuest series (after IX), Kingdom Hearts, etc, maybe.
Would be interesting to see a Wii version of "It's a Wonderful World," or some new IP. That would be nice.
Anyway, yeah, Final Fantasy XIII will remain on the PS3. I can see other franchises going to the Wii, though. Stuff like the main DragonQuest series (after IX), Kingdom Hearts, etc, maybe.
Would be interesting to see a Wii version of "It's a Wonderful World," or some new IP. That would be nice.
Jasoncheng
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Smiles and Cries
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good oneethelred said:
andthebeatgoeson
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Well, what do ya know.BorkBork said:
Bebpo said:
You're partially right, but you're ignoring that developers have a finite number of resources. They don't have to cancel a game outright, they can cut the devteam for a game by three quarters, and move those people into Wii or 360 development. That means those games may still come out, but they'll be hugely delayed. That means that those games may end up coming too late for the PS3.
JJConrad said:
No, that's not going to happen. Well...okay, I was certain of that until I thought of something, but I'll go with my first thought, then explain my second one.
My first thought is, S-E is developing the White Engine for the PS3. FFXIII, XIII VS and White Knight Story are all going to use it. Once the engine is built, it's not sensible for them to just discard all that work. Of course, this depends on how far they are into building the engine, and building FFXIII. I expect FFXIII to be a 2008 game, but I still think they're too far into it to abandon it just now. XIII VS, on the other hand, may end up not being a PS3 game at all, FFXIII may be the last PS3 FF for a couple of years if Sony really does that badly.
Of course, my second thought was that S-E just licensed the unreal 3 engine, which gives them a lot more leeway to cancel/shuffle projects. So now I'm not so certain FFXIII is a guaranteed PS3 game.
omg rite said:
Remind me, what was the chances of Dragon Quest IX being on DS?
The point is, do not presume anything, since we are in strange times. I wouldn't be surprised that if Wii consistently outsells PS3 for the next year that FF XIII proper will be on Wii and a side-story on the PS3.
Especially considering Square-Enix's unpredictable nature recently and now that they are back with Nintendo after 10 years.
Eteric Rice
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Xavien said:
The difference is, that they hadn't started DQIX on the PSP, and suddenly switched platforms. SE has invested millions in the white engine, and FFXIII for the PS3. I doubt it's going to switch now.
Now, FFXIV is possible.
Link
The Autumn Wind
It's an interesting scenario, really. Square has never been in the position of supporting anyone other than the market leader. Obviously, they aren't going to stop development of FFXIII at this stage, but will they switch the series over to the Wii if things continue like this?
Exactly, if anything they will make it multi-platform (I'm sure MS will try to talk S-E into this depending on PS3 sales over the next year) but I doubt it. They won't spend all that money to simply put the product on Wii.Eteric Rice said:
The thing is, we have no idea how scalable the White Engine is. It might have been designed with Wii in mind, anyway. It's entirely possible that FF:CC2 uses the very same engine, single-threaded, with a different renderer.Eteric Rice said:
It's also important to note that the development of FFXIII is still in it's infancy. They have some designs, parts of the scenario, and a short trailer/ tech demo - it wouldn't be that hard or expensive to switch the platform now. They could still use most of the assets they produced. Especially if White works on Wii.
Releasing FFXIII on PS3 and FFXIV on Wii sounds like the most stupid of all possible options, though...
Eteric Rice
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wsippel said:Releasing FFXIII on PS3 and FFXIV on Wii sounds like the most stupid of all possible options, though...
These ARE the same people who had Final Fantasy VI on the SNES, and then VII on the Playstation.
Why not? Just because id or Epic didn't create a scalable engine? They didn't even consider Wii while designing their engines. The Source engine for example is very powerful in it's latest incarnation, and still runs on pretty much everything, probably including graphic calculators...ethelred said:
Link
The Autumn Wind
Yeah, but that was also two different generations, which is where I was going with my point. Square has never switched console support in the middle of a generation. Would they start now? Would it be the right move?Eteric Rice said:These ARE the same people who had Final Fantasy VI on the SNES, and then VII on the Playstation.
I'm not sure on how accurate I may be but I'm pretty sure that the White Engine was designed in mind for HD-quality output. Now of course it may be scalable but I wouldn't bet a lot that it was made as a cross-platform engine. My reasoning being the recent licensing of the Unreal 3 engine pointing towards the fact that the White Engine is specifically tailored for PS3.wsippel said:
wsippel said:Why not? Just because id or Epic didn't create a scalable engine? They didn't even consider Wii while designing their engines. The Source engine for example is very powerful in it's latest incarnation, and still runs on pretty much everything, probably including graphic calculators...
What color is the sky in your world?
Is it purple? I like purple.
Eteric Rice said:These ARE the same people who had Final Fantasy VI on the SNES, and then VII on the Playstation.
Not to mention, Dragon Quest VIII on the PS2 (console) and Dragon Quest IX on the DS (handheld).
wsippel said:
I don't think that's even possible considering the PS3's very unique architecture. SE has always done well with hardware, so I'm sure they are utilizing the PS3 better then most, which would make it harder to port.
wsippel said:Why not? Just because id or Epic didn't create a scalable engine? They didn't even consider Wii while designing their engines. The Source engine for example is very powerful in it's latest incarnation, and still runs on pretty much everything, probably including graphic calculators...
Isn't Epics new engine not even fully optimized for the PS3?
Eteric Rice
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Wasn't Final Fantasy VII originally on the N64? I could have sworn I had seen screenshots of it before. I know they ditched it due to Nintedo's cart usage, though.
Possible. Or maybe White simply isn't suited for any genre? Or maybe it's optimized for all system but Xbox360?SleazyC said:
Graphics are only a small part of an engine, anyway. There's much more to it, like physics, scripting, AI, data streaming, memory management, sound...
Greenpanda
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Amir0x said:
yeah, snopes.com needs a videogame section dagnabbit >:[
Well, depends on the design of the engine. It is hard, but entirely possible to create an application that is highly scalable and optimized for pretty much anything. The ultimate example would be the Linux kernel, of course. Not really a game engine, sure, but you get the point I think? It's much more complicated than any game engine, highly optimized on every platform it supports, and it supports quite a few platforms - including PS3 and, in theory, Wii.Avalon said:
I think so. But that's not the point. The engine really was designed with high-performance systems in mind, and nothing else. Scalability wasn't really a factor.
Mr Killemgood
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Link said:
I guess thats why Nintendo Power had all the pictures of it on the Ultra 64, eh?
Joe Molotov
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Feep said:
It's no GAF November NPD Trailer.