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Media Create Sales: Jan. 25 - 31, 2010

Eteric Rice

Eteric Rice

Member
Durante said:
:D

As I wrote yesterday after the fake leak, I had hoped (secretly, I have to say, even expected, the preorder numbers and buzz seemed good) that it would be able to surpass part 2, and in MC it very clearly did. These sales should be good enough to reach a higher LTD, even accounting for the usual FW/LTD ratio increase in sequels. How many direct sequels have had a sales increase going from PS2 to PS3? I'm quite sure it's the only JRPG at least. I hope this broadens the perspective of people who believe that all smaller Japanese developers should have gone Wii or remained exclusively on handhelds.
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I still think they should stick to the DS or Wii (especially DS, though). Games would probably sell just as much or more on the DS, plus it would be cheaper to make.
 
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Segata Sanshiro

Member
MattyGrovesOrMe said:
Is Madworld getting any kind of publicity or marketing in Japan? Generally, how has Platinum been received there?
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Platinum is doing fairly well so far in the Japanese market, but I wouldn't expect much in the way of publicity or marketing for Madworld. It's CERO Z, so it's going to get nothing, and be buried behind the counters in stores, to boot.
 
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ZoddGutts

Member
schuelma said:
Yup. I definitely got that one wrong..shock!

Its amazing to see how long Wii can maintain decent sales when they literally have nothing coming up that can sell more than 75K LTD.
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The Wii should drop to 35k or below next week wonder if I'll be even with PS3 hardware sales next week.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
ZoddGutts said:
The Wii should drop to 35k or below next week wonder if I'll be even with PS3 hardware sales next week.
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Umm..why would you think that?
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Segata Sanshiro said:
Platinum is doing fairly well so far in the Japanese market, but I wouldn't expect much in the way of publicity or marketing for Madworld. It's CERO Z, so it's going to get nothing, and be buried behind the counters in stores, to boot.
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and it's published by ... ;)
 
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Segata Sanshiro

Member
Stumpokapow said:
and it's published by ... ;)
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You'd be surprised how much marketing SEGA actually does here. Bayonetta had a huge marketing/advertising push behind it. But you can't market CERO Z titles. It's the same reason why Sony had a billion ads for Resistance 2 but not a single ad for inFamous.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Segata Sanshiro said:
You'd be surprised how much marketing SEGA actually does here. Bayonetta had a huge marketing/advertising push behind it. But you can't market CERO Z titles. It's the same reason why Sony had a billion ads for Resistance 2 but not a single ad for inFamous.
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I think this is being published by Spike.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
ZoddGutts said:
Well...



A 5K-7K drop is possible for the Wii for next week.
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Uhh..we actually have the real numbers now, just so you know.
 
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ZoddGutts

Member
schuelma said:
Uhh..we actually have the real numbers now, just so you know.
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Right...

76.772
57.349
45.167
42,309

So next week I'll go below 40k. Wonder if SO4 will be enough to keep PS3 around 32k.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
ZoddGutts said:
Right...

76.772
57.349
45.167
42,309

So next week I'll go below 40k. Wonder if SO4 will be enough to keep PS3 around 32k.
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I'll be surprised if SO4 sells more than 60K.

Edit- 1st week I mean.
 
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ZoddGutts

Member
schuelma said:
I'll be surprised if SO4 sells more than 60K.
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Did SO4 really get just a bad rap in Japan that it's gonna not do so good on the PS3? I mean SO3 did sell over half a mil in japan... guess making a 360 game was a really poor choice who knows how much it would have sold on the PS3 if it first came out on that system before the negative feedback came out on how the game turned out to be.
 
D

Dash Kappei

Not actually that important
Well, Tatsunoko Cross generation of Heros only sold like 50k LTD, came out just 13 months ago and it can be found for a pittance. Japanese players probably care more for the original anime music than online/better balancing, besides competetive players which:
a) play in the arcades
b) never got interest with the game in the first place
In the end if it does 30k it'll not be that bad (ie not unexpected from Capcom).
Criminally low for a game that good, but we can't talk about a bomba since Capcom already knew what to expect from sales and decided to release a JPN version anyway (which wasn't originally planned).
 
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Opiate

Member
Brak said:
That 2nd video is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen. How can people write this shit and think it's good?
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It's the joys of being trapped by a fanbase.

Their tastes are very specific, and they're very demanding and loud. They're you're most loyal customers, and they will pay gobs of money for your game (collector's editions, collectibles, etc). Thus, the margins on each of these purchasers can be extremely high. Companies like high margins, and they like satisfying very vocal, passionate customers.

But these same customers advocate things which, over time, increasingly alienate everyone else. We're basically at the end stage of this phenomenon for a lot of JRPGs.
 
rykomatsu

rykomatsu

Member
Eteric Rice said:
I still think they should stick to the DS or Wii (especially DS, though). Games would probably sell just as much or more on the DS, plus it would be cheaper to make.
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Unless NBGI strongarms GUST, a handheld will never be a lead platform for the AT series. Of the home consoles, they'll probably continue to support a native console, and more specifically, the native console that has the best audio output quality due to the type of content the game revolves around.
 
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ZoddGutts

Member
rykomatsu said:
Unless NBGI strongarms GUST, a handheld will never be a lead platform for the AT series. Of the home consoles, they'll probably continue to support a native console, and more specifically, the native console that has the best audio output quality due to the type of content the game revolves around.
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Didn't Gust recently say they plan on making more games for the PS3?
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
bttb said:
http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/index.jsp

Sega Sammy FY2010 Q3 Major Titles
[WII/NDS] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (US,EU) - 5.67M
[PS3/360] Bayonetta (US,EU,JP) - 1.10M
[PSP/PC] Football Manager 2010 (US,EU) - 740K
[PSP] Phantasy Star Portable 2 (JP) - 540K

Sega Sammy Shipments by Region: FY2010 Q3 (FY2009 Q3)
JP/Others - 2.47M (3.13M)
US - 6.09M (8.82M)
EU - 8.16M (9.13M)
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Ooh nice.

I hope they put up a strategy document soon. Those are always quite interesting.

Edit:

Judging by their schedule history, it will be at least a couple of days before the meeting about these results.
 
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velvet_nitemare

Member
Eteric Rice said:
I still think they should stick to the DS or Wii (especially DS, though). Games would probably sell just as much or more on the DS, plus it would be cheaper to make.
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Shouldn't that be DS and PSP? Why exactly would you put the Wii ahead of the PSP. Western sales for mid-tier jrpg's aren't as big as they used to be.
 
rykomatsu

rykomatsu

Member
ZoddGutts said:
Didn't Gust recently say they plan on making more games for the PS3?
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Don't hold me to this since I couldn't get a copy of Jan's Gemaga (local bookstore only gets 1 copy/mo and some bastard bought Jan's copy a bit before I went into the store...) but supposedly one of the higher ups from GUST was interviewed in regards to the PS3 and said that sales for Rorona was proof positive to them that they had made the right decision with the platform and would continue supporting the PS3. LTD sales are still a ways off, but I wouldn't be surprised if AT3 sales cemented that train of thought even more this past week.

I think he also said that developing for the PS3 was easier for them than the PS2 (probably due to the same reasons given here if you can read Japanese.)
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
31. / 00. [PSP] Machi-Ing Maker 3 x Tousouchuu (D3 Publisher)
32. / 00. [PS3] WWE Smackdown Vs. Raw 2010 (THQ)
33. / 22. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii 2 (Namco Bandai)
34. / 16. [NDS] Last Window: Midnight Promise (Nintendo)
35. / 24. [NDS] Professor Layton and the Flute of Malevolent Destiny (Level 5)
36. / 21. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami)
37. / 25. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix)
38. / 38. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (Square Enix)
39. / 00. [PS3] Last Rebellion (Nippon Ichi Software)
40. / 31. [PS3] Yakuza 3 (PlayStation 3 the Best) (Sega)
41. / 28. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami)
42. / 27. [PSP] Kentoushi: Gladiator Begins (Acquire)
43. / 33. [PS3] Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Legendary Hits) (Activision)
44. / 29. [PS3] Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (Codemasters)
45. / 30. [WII] Samurai Warriors 3 (Koei)
46. / 37. [NDS] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (Nintendo)
47. / 26. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo)
48. / 44. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
49. / 00. [WII] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes W (Namco Bandai)
50. / 40. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo)

00. / 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) - 1.932.790 / 8.280.567 (+101%)


WII - 13
NDS - 12
PSP - 12
PS3 - 11
PS2 - 1
360 - 1


HARDWARE

Code: 
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|System |  This Week  |  Last Week  |        YTD  |         LTD  |
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|  NDS  |     66.457  |     49.398  |    466.097  |  29.564.685  |
|  PSP  |     49.520  |     54.682  |    462.751  |  14.069.025  |
|  WII  |     42.309  |     45.167  |    385.452  |   9.826.796  |
|  PS3  |     34.431  |     26.966  |    272.512  |   4.659.511  |
|  360  |      4.089  |      3.343  |     24.393  |   1.227.187  |
|  PS2  |      2.182  |      2.088  |     13.965  |  21.620.119  |
------------------------------------------------------------------
|  DSi  |     24.783  |     20.373  |    215.087  |   4.461.572  |
| DSiLL |     34.863  |     24.059  |    205.204  |     641.468  |
|  DSL  |      6.811  |      4.966  |     45.806  |  17.876.174  |
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|  PSP  |     47.875  |     52.909  |    450.563  |  13.984.985  |
| PSPgo |      1.645  |      1.773  |     12.188  |      84.040  |
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duckroll

Member
Eteric Rice said:
I still think they should stick to the DS or Wii (especially DS, though). Games would probably sell just as much or more on the DS, plus it would be cheaper to make.
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Really?

Annie no Atelier (DS) - 2009-03-12 - 5040yen - 14k
Atelier Rorona (PS3) - 2009-06-25 - 7140yen - 65k

OMG THEY SHOULD STICK TO THE DS! IT WILL PROBABLY SELL JUST AS MUCH OR MORE ON THE DS! HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Edit: Holy shit, Lina no Atelier came out on the DS in Dec and it never charted. Damn. I agree Gust should totally stick to DS and Wii (especially DS) because then they'll be out of business and I'll have one less loli moe company to worry about. :D
 
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gogogow

Member
duckroll said:
Really?

Annie no Atelier (DS) - 2009-03-12 - 5040yen - 14k
Atelier Rorona (PS3) - 2009-06-25 - 7140yen - 65k

OMG THEY SHOULD STICK TO THE DS! IT WILL PROBABLY SELL JUST AS MUCH OR MORE ON THE DS! HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Edit: Holy shit, Lina no Atelier came out on the DS in Dec and it never charted. Damn. I agree Gust should totally stick to DS and Wii (especially DS) because then they'll be out of business and I'll have one less loli moe company to worry about. :D
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:lol
Game is cheaper, cheaper to develop for, 7x the install base and it sold 14k.
The fanbase is just not there.
Will be interesting to see how the PSP version (although a port) will do.
 
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Koren

Member
bttb said:
Sega Sammy FY2010 Q3 Major Titles
[WII/NDS] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (US,EU) - 5.67M

Sega Sammy Shipments : FY2010 Q3 - 16.72M
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I find if quite funny that after all those years of system wars in the 80s-90s, more than 1/3 of Sega's games sold feature Mario on the box...
 
onken

onken

Member
So thedrill hw leak was fake as well. I agree with duckroll that we should just stop posting "leaks" for a few weeks and wait for the real numbers. There's obviously a bunch of tards out there trying to capitalise on the on the absence of any real leaks.

As a matter of interest did we ever make a proper prediction set for this week? I'm going to say about 95k for SO4.
 
R

Road

Member
Dengeki, Jan. 25 - 31:

11 / 08 [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best Reprint) (Capcom) - 16,006 / 124,882
12 / 09 [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 15,200 / 1,739,113
13 / 03 [PSP] Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha A's Portable: The Battle of Aces (Bandai Namco Games) - 14,535 / 95,084
14 / 07 [WII] Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles (Capcom) - 12,372 / 111,126
15 / 13 [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 11,600 / 5,430,000
16 / 00 [PSP] Shiren The Wanderer 3 Portable (Spike) - 10,195 / NEW
17 / 00 [WII] Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom Ultimate All-Stars (Capcom) - 8,864 / NEW
18 / 00 [PSP] 11eyes CrossOver (5pb.) - 8,683 / NEW
19 / 12 [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Nintendo) - 8,518 / 502,177
20 / 17 [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Kyoui no Shinryakusha - Blizzard (Level 5) - 8,028 / ?

XX / 00 [PS2] Princess Saver! Eternal Love for My Lady (Comfort) - 7,300 / NEW

Other software (first week / LTD):
[NDS] Dragon Quest IV: The Chapters of the Chosen (Square Enix) - 605,000 / 1,283,000
[NDS] Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Square Enix) - 669,000 / 1,314,000
[NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Sky (Square Enix) - 2,323,000 / 4,147,000

Market (2009-12-28 to 2010/01/31):
- Hardware: 1.58 million (up 6.8%)
- Software: 8.90 million (up 15.9%)

Top 3:
1. [NDS] Dragon Quest VI - 917,000
2. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 797,000
3. [PSP] Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep - 776,000

Code: 
Hardware |  This Week |  Last Week |    YTD     |    LTD
------------------------------------------------------------
NDS      |     66,544 |     48,691 |    457,913 | 29,422,618
PSP      |     45,831 |     51,442 |    446,145 | 13,835,537
WII      |     38,234 |     41,023 |    380,130 |  9,925,566
PS3      |     29,534 |     24,070 |    254,783 |  4,739,481
360      |     	4,365 |      4,542 |     30,504 |  1,239,159
PS2      |     	2,019 |      1,667 |     13,031 | 
------------------------------------------------------------
Total    |    186,527 |    171,435 |  1,582,506 |
Dengeki PS Top 10
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/234/234367/
http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/495/495513/

Jan. 18 - 24
 
onken

onken

Member
C.T. said:
Read something ridiculous on kotaku. It's unbanned, right? Anyways, they argue PSP's 45k sold more than DS's 66k because DS's sells are split between DSL, DSi and DSXL.

http://kotaku.com/5464720/psp-still-the-platform-to-beat-in-japan-or-is-it
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Not that I'm one to defend Kotaku of all places, but all they're saying is is that at a first glance it appears PSP is on top, but when you combine all the DS skus it actually isn't. Not really that exciting...
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
onken said:
So thedrill hw leak was fake as well. I agree with duckroll that we should just stop posting "leaks" for a few weeks and wait for the real numbers. There's obviously a bunch of tards out there trying to capitalise on the on the absence of any real leaks.
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thedrill hw (and sw) leak isn't fake. The guy has the real m-c numbers but changes them a bit so that Media Create doesn't go after him. If you check them you'll see that you won't find any significant difference.
 
onken

onken

Member
Chris1964 said:
thedrill hw (and sw) leak isn't fake. The guy has the real m-c numbers but changes them a bit so that Media Create doesn't go after him. If you check them you'll see that you won't find any significant difference.
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That just sounds really bizarre, he either has the numbers or he hasn't, so I don't see how changing them a bit stops MC going after him.

In any rate, as far as I'm concerned, non actual = fake. Pretty much anybody can guess hardware numbers within a few k (I'm not saying he's guessing, but his numbers are about as useful as an educated guess).
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
onken said:
That just sounds really bizarre, he either has the numbers or he hasn't, so I don't see how changing them a bit stops MC going after him.
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if he's the guy with the numbers and he feels like fudging them a bit stops MC... who are we to care?

In any rate, as far as I'm concerned, non actual = fake. Pretty much anybody can guess hardware numbers within a few k (I'm not saying he's guessing, but his numbers are about as useful as an educated guess).
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okay but you're wrong here. he's not guessing. he has the numbers. he's been doing this for a long time. his numbers are useful to use.
 
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Durante

Member
charlequin said:
FIGHT!
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Nah, it's a much too happy occasion to fight.

Eteric Rice said:
I still think they should stick to the DS or Wii (especially DS, though). Games would probably sell just as much or more on the DS, plus it would be cheaper to make.
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Now, it's not Ar Tonelico, but of Gust's last 2 DS games one sold 14k LTD and one didn't even chart. I don't think the data supports your claims.
Edit: Beaten handily by duckroll, who was a lot less reserved :lol

ULTROS! said:
My prediction for this week:

Star Ocean: The Last Hope International ~ 150k
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I wouldn't be surprised if SO4 fails to do even half of that.
 
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