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Media Create Sales: Nov 30-Dec 6, 2009
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slaughterking
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This is amazing considering that Hino expected the game to ship 800k copies and that it has probably sold "only" a little over 700k units until now. Retailers and Level5 have to be very confident in the games' future legs.neo2046 said:
duckroll said:
Yep, that is also pretty damn good.Road said:
Increases from week 50 to 51 (the one we're predicting):
2006
- 101,956
- 284,648 (+179.2%)
2007
- 168,229
- 263,718 (+56.8%)
2008
- 92,982
- 151,106 (+ 62.5%)
2009
- 142,000
- ???
There's always a first and it could go gown. =P
On a serious remark: I'm not expecting a 50%+ increase. This year the week 51 starts the earliest, meaning it's more distant from the New Year's Eve (and Christmas, FWIW).
But, who knows? I wasn't expecting 142k this week either.
2006
- 101,956
- 284,648 (+179.2%)
2007
- 168,229
- 263,718 (+56.8%)
2008
- 92,982
- 151,106 (+ 62.5%)
2009
- 142,000
- ???
There's always a first and it could go gown. =P
On a serious remark: I'm not expecting a 50%+ increase. This year the week 51 starts the earliest, meaning it's more distant from the New Year's Eve (and Christmas, FWIW).
But, who knows? I wasn't expecting 142k this week either.
I guess today ended the battle for the best selling home console of 2009. I know i'm mixing trackers but it's better than nothing and gives a clear picture.
Wii performance after price cut (Media Create) (week 50 is Famitsu)
As of week 49:
WII YTD: 1.419.425
PS3 YTD: 1.341.841
DIF YTD: 77.584
Week 50:
WII: 142.000
PS3: 76.000
DIF: 66.000
Total difference: 77.584+66.000=144.000
Wii performance after price cut (Media Create) (week 50 is Famitsu)
Code:
week 2007 2008 2009
40 20.704 25.330 35.392
41 20.575 22.877 30.741
42 24.932 26.024 29.965
43 27.502 24.292 25.917
44 37.617 23.123 28.888
45 34.546 24.726 31.810
46 36.230 26.787 26.764
47 54.362 35.298 32.844
48 74.764 49.848 46.673
49 115.057 56.702 106.555
50 170.558 91.641 142.000
51 232.907 131.054
52 152.209 134.958As of week 49:
WII YTD: 1.419.425
PS3 YTD: 1.341.841
DIF YTD: 77.584
Week 50:
WII: 142.000
PS3: 76.000
DIF: 66.000
Total difference: 77.584+66.000=144.000
Famitsu data:
Mainline Mario entries (no remakes and re-releases)
01. [NFC] Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - / 6.810.000
02. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 865.024 / 5.575.000
03. [NGB] Super Mario Land (Nintendo) - / 4.190.000
04. [NFC] Super Mario Bros. 3 (Nintendo) - / 3.840.000
05. [SFC] Super Mario World (Nintendo) - / 3.550.000
06. [NGB] Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins (Nintendo) - / 2.700.000
07. [NFC] Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo) - / 2.650.000
08. [SFC] Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (Nintendo) - / 1.770.000
09. [N64] Super Mario 64 (Nintendo) - 162.111 / 1.639.921
10. [NFC] Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - / 1.630.000
11. [NGB] Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land (Nintendo) - / 1.590.000
12. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 936.734 / 1.401.558
13. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) - 256.431 / 964.414
14. [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine (Nintendo) - 280.610 / 789.989
I don't know if the difference between NSMB Wii and Galaxy is funny or sad.
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| | [NDS] NSMB |[WII] Mario Galaxy | [WII] NSMB Wii | difference |
| | (25/05/06) | (01/11/07) | (03/12/09) | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-----------|-----------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD |NSMBW-NSMB | NSMBW-SMG |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-----------|-----------|
| 1 | 865.024| 865.024| 256.431| 256.431| 936.734| 936.734| 71.710| 680.393|
| 2 | 315.197|1.180.221| 78.439| 334.690| 464.824|1.401.558| 221.337| 1.066.868|
| 3 | 242.932|1.423.153| 43.317| 378.007| | | | |
| 4 | 204.007|1.627.160| 37.484| 415.491| | | | |
| 5 | 169.852|1.797.012| 36.354| 451.845| | | | |
| 6 | 153.047|1.950.009| 48.750| 500.595| | | | |
| 7 | 132.375|2.082.434| 70.541| 571.136| | | | |
| 8 | 120.220|2.202.654| 109.029| 680.165| | | | |
| 9 | 146.837|2.349.491| 67.519| 747.684| | | | |
| 10 | 114.471|2.463.962| 62.017| 809.701| | | | |
| 11 | 103.008|2.566.970| 17.617| 827.318| | | | |
| 12 | 119.991|2.686.961| 16.643| 843.961| | | | |
| 13 | 115.335|2.802.296| 9.056| 853.017| | | | |
| 14 | 66.336|2.868.632| 7.234| 860.251| | | | |
| 15 | 72.235|2.940.867| 6.344| 866.595| | | | |
| 16 | 51.643|2.992.510| 5.868| 872.463| | | | |
| 17 | 52.070|3.044.580| 4.357| 876.820| | | | |
| 18 | 54.595|3.099.175| -| -| | | | |
| 19 | 51.541|3.150.716| -| -| | | | |
| 20 | 37.678|3.188.394| -| -| | | | |
| 21 | 39.915|3.228.309| -| -| | | | |
| 22 | 30.564|3.258.873| -| -| | | | |
| 23 | 33.482|3.292.355| -| -| | | | |
| 24 | 31.940|3.324.295| -| -| | | | |
| 25 | 26.939|3.351.234| -| -| | | | |
| 26 | 23.777|3.375.011| -| -| | | | |
| 27 | 32.086|3.407.097| -| -| | | | |
| 28 | 28.132|3.435.229| -| -| | | | |
| 29 | 45.298|3.480.527| -| -| | | | |
| 30 | 72.194|3.552.721| -| -| | | | |
| 31 | 185.021|3.737.742| -| -| | | | |
| 32 | 80.472|3.818.214| -| -| | | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-----------|-----------|
|Year| YTD | LTD | YTD | LTD | YTD | LTD |NSMBW-NSMB | NSMBW-SMG |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-----------|-----------|
| 1 |3.818.214|3.818.214| 747.684| 747.684|1.401.558|1.401.558| -2.416.656| 653.874|
| 2 |1.176.939|4.995.153| 197.442| 945.106| | | | |
| 3 | 377.034|5.372.187| 19.308| 964.414| | | | |
| 4 | 203.000|5.575.000| -| -| | | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-----------|-----------|
| LTD| -|5.575.000| -| 964.414| -|1.401.558| -4.173.442| 437.144|
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New Super Mario Bros. LTD is up to 29/11/09
Super Mario Galaxy LTD is up to 12/07/09Mainline Mario entries (no remakes and re-releases)
01. [NFC] Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - / 6.810.000
02. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 865.024 / 5.575.000
03. [NGB] Super Mario Land (Nintendo) - / 4.190.000
04. [NFC] Super Mario Bros. 3 (Nintendo) - / 3.840.000
05. [SFC] Super Mario World (Nintendo) - / 3.550.000
06. [NGB] Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins (Nintendo) - / 2.700.000
07. [NFC] Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo) - / 2.650.000
08. [SFC] Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (Nintendo) - / 1.770.000
09. [N64] Super Mario 64 (Nintendo) - 162.111 / 1.639.921
10. [NFC] Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - / 1.630.000
11. [NGB] Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land (Nintendo) - / 1.590.000
12. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 936.734 / 1.401.558
13. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) - 256.431 / 964.414
14. [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine (Nintendo) - 280.610 / 789.989
I don't know if the difference between NSMB Wii and Galaxy is funny or sad.
Road said:
Well, to be fair, there are only three 3D Mario games ever released so far. Is it a clear aversion, or is it simply that 3D Marios have never had a chance of creating the same impression the 2D Marios clearly have? Two of the three 3D Marios were on doomed consoles, during Nintendo's worst hardware years. Wouldn't that also have an impact on how people form an impression of a 3D Mario game?
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
It is pretty amazing that it will have passed all 3D Mario games by its third week. NSMBW is definitely a huge hit for them.
Hopefully Galaxy 2 can feed off of this energy and do much better sales than its predecessor.
Hopefully Galaxy 2 can feed off of this energy and do much better sales than its predecessor.
duckroll said:
I think the thing that's missing from the games industry as a whole is a 'middle step' between a 2D Mario and a 3D Mario (You could insert most other games/genres in there, too) - there's just a *little* too much of a complexity leap between the two for the mass consumer.
If that link can be created - gradually introducing people to concepts about playing in 3D space - there's an awful lot of potential to give the *entire* industry a boost. Break down that conceptual barrier.
I'd love to see SMG2 do some work towards that, but it'd be difficult to do so without alienating the hardcore, since they've already built up some expectations about the game.
Could be. In this case, it would be because the games didn't reach a broader audience, not because the Japanese don't like them that much.duckroll said:
But at the end of the day, SM64DS and SMG both were obliterated by the NSMB's in their respective successful platforms. It wasn't this time things changed.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
*cough*49 predictions, previous record was 21...good thing I finally found out how to make excel automatically put the username on its correct ranking position *cough*
Going by the latest famitsu top30 available online, as of 11/29, it had sold 659104 copies and the sell through was in the highest possible range (75 to 100%). Even at 75%, it'd mean ~879k. I guess they could have shipped >120k in these two weeks and a bit but holy crap, still quite an amount on shops.
I checked to see if maybe they meant Inazuma 1 + Inazuma 2, but by Famitsu as of 11/29 it was already >1m so they would have shipped that even earlier.
What the what.neo2046 said:
Going by the latest famitsu top30 available online, as of 11/29, it had sold 659104 copies and the sell through was in the highest possible range (75 to 100%). Even at 75%, it'd mean ~879k. I guess they could have shipped >120k in these two weeks and a bit but holy crap, still quite an amount on shops.
I checked to see if maybe they meant Inazuma 1 + Inazuma 2, but by Famitsu as of 11/29 it was already >1m so they would have shipped that even earlier.
Sheesh, prelude to how to destroy many predictions.Road said:
Chris1964 said:
My Mum - bless her soul - has yet to complete the *tutorial* level of Galaxy. The problem, I think, is that it dumps you directly into a situation where you need to comprehend 3D movement *and* the new idea of the gravity changes, which is an awful lot to pick up when coming from a standing start.
What I'd like to see is something like the following:
First levels: Entirely 2D in gameplay terms
Next level: Introduce a background element that attacks; a gargoyle that periodically breathes fire, for instance.
Next level: Introduce a background element that attacks *using depth*, for instance balls that roll along a corridor to the main play stage, so you have to understand how deep into the screen the balls are to know when to move.
Next level: Tilt the camera up a bit so you've got a clear view of the floor. Unlock movement in the Z-axis. The level requires no Z-movement, but there are some coins which you need to move into or out of the screen to collect.
Next level: Holes you can either jump over or navigate around
That's given you all the basic information you need to navigate in 3D in bite-size chunks, never straying too far from familliar ground.
That's what I first thought too, but the article clearly mentions only Inazuma Eleven 2. Level 5 and retailers must me very confident with this title.Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I think the same thing had happened with Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP the Best). Capcom had shipped 1 million when the game had sold <800k at the moment.
Chris1964 said:
Well, one thing to note is that since the game has two versions, it might possibly be easier to ship more copies since retailers would want to have ready supply of either version at any given time, considering they're selling very closely. There does not seem to be a huge preference for one version over the other.
The_lascar
Member
thestopsign
Member
With a few good holiday weeks I think Inazuma 2 should pass 1mil by 2010 H1 Top 100 chart. If not, it's going to land just short much like the Layton games.
jett said:
I don't think it's Mario as much as the holyday season which benefits a product like Wii considerably. I didn't expect these numbers for Wii at this point, I honestly thought it would do 80k and 100k for the past two weeks instead it has performed remarkably with 100k and 140k.
PS3 is doing greatly too although Wii has prevailed, when the Slim was announced a few people wondered if PS3 could manage to reach 4m units before the FFXIII launch because back then it seemed a really ambitious target for PS3 and well, it did. Next week will be really interesting for PS3, I think HW sales will go up to 200k with 75k console sold last week.
Cosmonaut X
Member
If ToG did manage 190k, that would be a fantastic improvement on the first day (113k) and although it's disappointing it didn't manage to exceed ToV PS3 on the first week, with the holiday season it has a good chance to do better. Much better than people were imagining based off the first day sales.
Otherwise, SM3 does reasonably well (just shy of 170k now, isn't it?), PSPGo continues to fail and Tomodachi continues to impress.
Otherwise, SM3 does reasonably well (just shy of 170k now, isn't it?), PSPGo continues to fail and Tomodachi continues to impress.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
enishi said:
If true then that's not a bad first week for TOG, especially considering the competition that it's up against!
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Tell us what you really think.schuelma said:
Paracelsus
Member
LiquidMetal14 said:
It's hard to think and type with one hand at the same time, you know.
Cosmonaut X
Member
schuelma said:
Not necessarily. It would mean it sold 60% of its first week on the first day which, while at the outer edge of the range that recent Tales games seem to exhibit, isn't unprecedented. Wait and see, but I wouldn't be surprised if it managed approx. 190k for the week.
EDIT:
Quoting myself from earlier in the thread:
I don't have the first day/first week figures for Versus, but IIRC that showed a similarly impressive first day/first week ratio.