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Media Create Sales: Oct 19-25, 2009
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Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
DR2K said:
first week = sales up until sunday on the week it is released. for most games it is 4 days. for some games, saturday releases, it is two. if you release your product on a sunday, it'll be one.
Pureauthor
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DR2K said:
If you don't want people to be confused (and irritated), you're better off sticking with the terminology in place.
Pureauthor
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DR2K said:
Consumers not actually understanding what a monumental piece of crap the PSPGo is is probably the only reason it got the majority of the 28K sales in the first place.
Cosmonaut X
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DR2K said:
On the contrary, I think consumers do understand the system and - outside of a fairly limited niche - are apparently going to reject it.
I don't think PSP Go numbers are bad at all if you consider it for what it is, a premium SKU in the PSP family. If you treat it as if it was the launch of a PSP2 of course it's a bomb.
Truth is if it helps keeping overall PSP hardware sales high by contributing for a 30-40% of total sales, it is mission accomplished.
Go is a kind of feasibility test for the future but Sony has issues they have to solve if they want to see a good result. Price needs to go down, PS store needs to be updated with more content and more oftenly, they need to solve the UMD back catalogue issue most willing-to-upgrade people have.
Truth is if it helps keeping overall PSP hardware sales high by contributing for a 30-40% of total sales, it is mission accomplished.
Go is a kind of feasibility test for the future but Sony has issues they have to solve if they want to see a good result. Price needs to go down, PS store needs to be updated with more content and more oftenly, they need to solve the UMD back catalogue issue most willing-to-upgrade people have.
I don't know any scenario in which the PSP Go could be considered a succes. Not to mention that developers were ready to drop the PSP in the US/EU and Sony used the PSP Go to convince them to stay on board. I'm sure that heads are going to roll at the PSP division.Elios83 said:
Cygnus X-1
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bttb said:
This confirm my supposition that the market isn't at all ready for a downloadable-only software. Because I'm sure that the problem is mostly there with PSPGo.
Segata Sanshiro
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?AniHawk said:
The Go's marketing campaign is the same as the PS3 Slim's. That stupid "Playface" stuff.
Cygnus X-1 said:
I am not convinced that PSP Go problem is solely because it is downloadable-only. There are other factors, like :
- price (remember PS3 and it's $600 price point).
- sliding & comfort. I didn't have PSPGo, but I have had sliding Mobile Phone. The comfort level of sliding things are much less than non-clamshell (PSP) or clamshell things (DS)
- Lack of analog : I am not sure whether this is a major factor or not, but I am putting it here just in case.
The discount for a PSPgo on Amazon.jp is up to 7% now. Usually they give a 5% discount. It's still a ¥1950 (~$22) savings.
I'd say Sony didn't fail to at least try to build some hype. There are flyers and signs throughout stores indicating the system's availability and the free game download promotion that goes with it.
They need Monster Hunter to come to the system ASAP.
I'd say Sony didn't fail to at least try to build some hype. There are flyers and signs throughout stores indicating the system's availability and the free game download promotion that goes with it.
They need Monster Hunter to come to the system ASAP.
danielijohnson
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Cygnus X-1 said:
Segata Sanshiro
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This is Japan, son. We don't take too kindly to your "iPhone" round here.
BishopLamont
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Go easy on the sales-age virgins guys.
danielijohnson
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I'm not saying they are comparable in every respect, but in direct response to what was said, it's obvious there is at least one platform that is download-only that has thrived.
Segata Sanshiro
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but... not in Japan. Even among Japanese iPhone owners, apps are one of the least used functions of the phone. I think the last survey I saw (from a few weeks ago) had 7% of Japanese iPhone users using it for apps.danielijohnson said:
duckroll said:
Yeah, I know. It still falls in the category though. It was released one week (in a limited fashion, not unlike the DSL) and then released wider (or in the DSL fashion, more units) the next week. Point stands.
Oh, and about the PSPgo, I don't think that it proves that the world is not ready for a DD device (See iPhone), I do believe it proves that the world isn't ready to spend 200+ on a portable gaming console. I'm positive more people would have latched on at 199 or below.
danielijohnson
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Well, again, it was a response to what was said. The person said "the market" so they may have been referring to specifically the Japanese market, but it seemed more general than that, in which case you can't deny that the iPhone does very well in most markets.Segata Sanshiro said:
Segata Sanshiro
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Interestingly, I think it's because the iPhone can do one thing far better than regular cell phones: surf the web.jcm said:
According to the same survey (conducted by IMJ Mobile, s=300), surfing the web is the most used feature of the phone, with 25%, followed by email (24%), music (21%), making phone calls (17%), and then apps (7%), with various other things like Google Maps, the camera, and the calendar making up the rest.
I'd also like to point out somewhat cynically that the average iPhone owner in Japan is probably quite different from the average keitai owner.
I think first week will be crucial to FFXIII, if it will be around 800/850k it should make it to 1 milion at the end of the year (just 10 days of sales, we can't take into account the last week of december because it will count as the first week of January if I'm right), less than that it will risk of not making it in time.cvxfreak said:
With my amazing SQL skills
lol ) I've made a query to garaph that shows the drop 1st to 2nd week in sales from FF Titles that exceed at least 100k LTD. I don't know if it's permitted to link it directly (I don't know how to copy/paste the results in a proper way, if someone knows it please PM me so next time I can do a better work than an external link), anyway: FF Sales first to second week drop
Segata Sanshiro
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Yup. Though as can be seen from the sign in back, it's Yodobashi Camera Akiba. And yes, the subway entrance is right there.
Segata Sanshiro said:
I can't read the actual survey, but the gist of it seems to be that almost all iphone users have downloaded apps, it's just not the most important feature to them. Is Google Translate letting me down? This article agrees with my interpretation, but for all I know he's using Google Translate too.
Segata Sanshiro
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91% have downloaded at least one app. But I think the data clearly show the iPhone isn't selling as a downloadable media device quite the same way it is elsewhere. Note the question isn't "What is most important to you?", it's "what do you use your iPhone for?"jcm said:
danielijohnson
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Regardless, the argument being that the main issue with the PSPGo is that it's a download-only console seems faulty because, though we've yet to see NPD's for October, I'm pretty sure sales for PSPGo in the United States will be less-than-stellar.
We can all agree that the market for the iPhone and Apps in the US is thriving, right?
We can all agree that the market for the iPhone and Apps in the US is thriving, right?
Segata Sanshiro
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Absolutely. And yes, the numbers for the PSP Go's first couple days in the US were awful, as well. Clearly DD can work as a platform, it's a matter of doing it correctly. Japan's going to be an especially difficult nut to crack, though. They aren't real keen on the concept, which isn't surprising considering how rigorously devoted to cash this country is.danielijohnson said: