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[Mr. Pointy]

It's really weird that Bamco have been able to target their games successfully on various systems in Japan. Taiko does well on Nintendo platforms, Run For Money is probably going to crack 500k, One Piece is doing stupidly well on Sony systems, PSP still gets otaku-oriented games that sell decently.

 

[Nibel]

Give it 5-10 years before determining if it was a success or not.

 

[BishopLamont]

The 3DS strategy to sell less than anticipated, lose money and then sell less than anticipated again? Genius!

Nintendo consoles always start slow, Wii is the major exception. Losing money on the Wii U initially is something they can't avoid, safe to say there's never gonna be a home console thats gonna profit on day 1 ever again. Sure its selling less than anticipated, but its not like its bombing majorly, the console will pick up once more games come out. This isn't the Vita where there's no games pushing the console every week, the Wii U at least has NSMB/Nintendo Land to help stabilize the numbers, even the 3DS didn't have such software initially and its numbers were still manageable pre-price cut.

 

[Road]

 

[michaelius]

Can the Wii U take on the PS3 and rise to supremacy before the PS4 is announced, thus increasing the numbers of console competitors for the consumers cash? This will be interesting to see going forward in 2013.

PS3 next week it will be in post holidays negative trend while Wii U will be both in post launch and post holidays negative trends.

So for next few weeks PS3 should be higher than Wii U. After that it will depend more on wii u software releases.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

It's really weird that Bamco have been able to target their games successfully on various systems in Japan. Taiko does well on Nintendo platforms, Run For Money is probably going to crack 500k, One Piece is doing stupidly well on Sony systems, PSP still gets otaku-oriented games that sell decently.

On the other hand: Tales.

One Piece also did stupidly well on Nintendo platforms.

 

[fabricated backlash]

Wii U continues it's steady pace and Vita shows a faint pulse.

Can the Wii U take on the PS3 and rise to supremacy before the PS4 is announced, thus increasing the numbers of console competitors for the consumers cash? This will be interesting to see going forward in 2013.

Calling an occasional twitch from a corpse a pulse is stretching it.
I'm happy to see the Vita finally pulling somewhat non horrible numbers, but 33.000 units for a new handheld during holydays seems rather underwhelming. Especially when the PSP sold better.
If Sony can keep steady sales above 20k the Vita wouldn't do good, in fact it wouldn't even do mediocre, but at least it would grow the userbase at a better pace than the usual sub 10k figures.

WiiU will fall off a cliff pretty soon. I'm actually impressed with the sales of NSMBU and NintendoLand, I expected less, but it's the lack of any big Japan centric game for the near future that is making me pessimistic about it's performance... well at least it performs in Japan unlike that fart that constituted the western launch.

 

[nickcv]

thanks Road!

poor wii u, any meaningful releases for january?

 

[Mpl90]

thanks Road!

poor wii u, any meaningful releases for january?

Ahahahah. Ah.

 

[Kacho]

thanks Road!

poor wii u, any meaningful releases for january?

Hokuto Musou 2, maybe?

 

[metalslimer]

thanks Road!

poor wii u, any meaningful releases for january?

01/31 Japan Shin Hokuto Musou
02/21 Japan Tank! Tank! Tank!
03/14 Japan Need for Speed: Most Wanted - A Criterion Game

The entire Wii U dated lineup right now. And we know Pikmin won't be there in the first 3 months, so I'm guessing Wii Fit U will be their big Q1 game?

 

[Kerub]

That's an odd Vita bump. Is there any reason for it, other than holiday week? Marketing campaign? Some special holiday deal?

 

[BlackJace]

Yeah, the console is in for a bit of a rough patch.

 

[stilgar]

01/31 Japan Shin Hokuto Musou
02/21 Japan Tank! Tank! Tank!
03/14 Japan Need for Speed: Most Wanted - A Criterion Game

The entire Wii U dated lineup right now.

Oh boy. How can you launch a system with so little dated releases.

 

[LayLa]

personally surprised with the Paper Mario numbers, thought that was going to get lost in the xmas shuffle
AKB seems like a flop - last numbers were for PSP 165,549 and for Vita 35,372
previous franchise PSP numbers were 410,673 and 362,059

 

[Mr Swine]

Great numbers but I don't see why vitas numbers are impressive when it sold 15k more at the same week last year :/

 

[test_account]

Surely the experts expected a bump with kids getting their New Year money, didn't they?

Hehe, well, that is probably one reason for the bump But yeah, i didnt see anyone predict this.

yeah, sorry guys, didn't notice it... seems like garaph has not been updated yet.

i could do a famitsu graph, but we don't have this week data yet

No problem, thanks

http://i.minus.com/izMQIx1tOZubi.png
http://i.minus.com/iIGenpzNNWr01.png

Thanks

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Vita - 33,309

HAHAHA! Oh man that is fricken hilarious.

 

[schuelma]

Wait are people being serious with the Vita stuff? I can't tell anymore.

 

[Kerub]

Oh boy. How can you launch a system with so little dated releases.

Giving room for third parties

 

[Acosta]

Wait are people being serious with the Vita stuff? I can't tell anymore.

hahaha, so offended!

 

[test_account]

Great numbers but I don't see why vitas numbers are impressive when it sold 15k more at the same week last year :/

Last year it was Vita's 3rd week. Now the Vita has been proclaimed to be pretty much dead by several of people for nearly one year, that is why the bump is surprising. I'm not sure that many think it is very impressive, but it is a surprise nontheless.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

First page is just hilarious.

-Yakuza 5 has great legs + higher price = huge success of SEGA
-Vita, nothing that should spark a rise, yet it did. Is there hope?
-3DS is just a monster
-PSP still possibly stopping the Vita somewhat
-Wii-U falling to PS3 levels, this will be an interesting weekly battle

 

[orioto]

Those numbers show something i had in mind. PS3 will be the WiiU's Psp. It won't die (and it will kill PS4 sales of course).

That's how Japan works. PS3 has yet to reach its faster pace with a price cut and a good number of anime/rpg games. It will become a god choice for kid, and find a second life. Right now, the PS3 is way more in line with the 3ds than a wiiu in term of demographics and appeal in Japan.

At least i'm sure that could happen, if Sony makes things right. But will they..

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

thanks Road!

poor wii u, any meaningful releases for january?

Repost from last thread.

This is what's currenty announced for Wii U in Japan:

01.31.13 Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2 (Koei)
02.21.13 Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco)
03.14.13 Need for Speed: Most Wanted - A Criterion Game (Electronic Arts)

early 2013: Game & Wario (Nintendo)

spring 2013: Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online (Square Enix)
spring 2013: Pikmin 3 (Nintendo)
spring 2013: Wii Fit U (Nintendo)

tba: Bayonetta 2 (Nintendo)
tba: LEGO City Undercover (Nintendo)
tba: Monolith Soft project (Nintendo)
tba: Rayman Legends (Nintendo)
tba: Super Smash Bros. (Nintendo)
tba: The Wonderful 101 (Nintendo)

 

[thehypocrite]

They won't care about PS4 either.

We know nothing about the PS4 to jump to such conclusions. However I do concede that trends point to that being the most likely scenario.

 

[Celine]

http://i.minus.com/iD0XZSWGlw3hV.gif

Ah ah
I've imagined those kids as saleagers.

 

[slaughterking]

personally surprised with the Paper Mario numbers, thought that was going to get lost in the xmas shuffle

It's only two or three weeks away from becoming the best selling Paper Mario game and only a year away from becoming the by far best selling Paper Mario game. It's been a while since I've been so disappointed in a game selling well.

 

[LayLa]

Sticker Star will be the series biggest seller soon, don't think anyone was predicting that?

N64 Paper Mario 425,609
GCN Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door 398,218
Wii Super Paper Mario 505,491
3DS Paper Mario: Sticker Star 68.262 / 470.394

 

[Ruud_Luiten]

01/31 Japan Shin Hokuto Musou
02/21 Japan Tank! Tank! Tank!
03/14 Japan Need for Speed: Most Wanted - A Criterion Game

The entire Wii U dated lineup right now. And we know Pikmin won't be there in the first 3 months, so I'm guessing Wii Fit U will be their big Q1 game?

Wow, just wow.
Glad Nintendo said they learned from the 3DS!

 

[DragonSworne]

Ouch at WiiU

I'm predicting 20-30k next week

 

[Thoraxes]

Why does that matter? It sold 20k last week and was bound to sell more this week. Had I made a prediction I would have said it would probably do between 25k and 27k this week. Now it's a little higher than that, but hardly crushing any expectations I would have reasonably made.

Well, you were wondering why people were surprised, or to be specific to your post, "flipping out".

The fact that it got that high for the first time in a long time, coupled with how the software release chart looks this week, is easily the reason why people are surprised.

 

[Nibel]

Ouch at WiiU

I'm predicting 20-30k next week

Japan is embracing 3DS as its main console

 

[bigtroyjon]

3DS data is just the stuff that is in the OP, no point in just repeating it again. For simplicity sake, all handheld number will not include DS in 2012. Shouldn't really matter as we go further along, amounted to a non relevant % of total sales last year.

PSP+PSV(2012 YTD)=113,948
PSP+PSV(2013 YTD)=88,182(-22.7%)

Looking ahead to week 2, PSP+PSV did 40,899 in 2012.
Looking ahead to week 2, 3DS did 100,668 in 2012.

All Handhelds(2012 YTD)=354,767
All Handhelds(2013 YTD)=367,441(+3.6%)

If last year is any indication, should expect PSP, Vita and 3DS sales to drop off by about 60% next week.

 

[tuffy]

Just to play Captain Obvious:

• the Wii U needs software to improve its sales
• Nintendo has a stable of 1st party titles that have reliably moved hardware in the past
• Nintendo has a lot of time to itself in the market to get those titles released

But since Nintendo seemed to give up on the Wii a long time ago, it makes me wonder what their software development teams have been doing since.

 

[jj984jj]

Sticker Star will be the series biggest seller soon, don't think anyone was predicting that?

N64 Paper Mario 425,609
GCN Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door 398,218
Wii Super Paper Mario 505,491
3DS Paper Mario: Sticker Star 68.262 / 470.394

It would've been an easy one to predict, Mario RPGs sell more on handhelds.

 

[DragonSworne]

Japan is embracing 3DS as its main console

Like a PS3 it seems like, sadly

Not good for Nintendo

 

[Sammy Samusu]

25./27. [WIU] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.12.08} (¥4.800) - 14.656 / 181.564 (+1%)

Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh!

15./13. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) # <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 27.583 / 161.751 (+14%)

This one is out performing every MH Best Price except for MHP2G. Let's aim for 300k!

 

[Thoraxes]

It would've been an easy one to predict, Mario RPGs sell more on handhelds.

True. I guess portable Paper Mario is a first though, so it's interesting to note how it's trending higher. Maybe Nintendo will consider another handheld followup at this rate.

Wow, just wow.
Glad Nintendo said they learned from the 3DS!

Instead of three months to good software, it's 2! (laughs)

 

[DragonSworne]

But since Nintendo seemed to give up on the Wii a long time ago, it makes me wonder what their software development teams have been doing since.

Making 20 versions of Pikmin 3 because Miyamoto is an awful producer

 

[Chris1964]

Wait are people being serious with the Vita stuff? I can't tell anymore.

As serious as Wii U sales defenders.

 

[Nekki]

Vita - 33,309

First post of the forever. LOL

Usually in week 1 Sony hardware sees a rise, in contrast to Nintendo hw not doing so or dropping

 

[Durante]

Ouch at WiiU

I'm predicting 20-30k next week

The next two weeks should see Wii U selling over 300-400k.

The remaining 3 weeks in January te Wii U will only need to sell 80-100k a week.

Seems more than doable

Still in the calibration phase I assume? You might try some hysteresis thresholding, it could prevent you from alternating between wildly over- and undershooting.

 

[Mileena]

01/31 Japan Shin Hokuto Musou
02/21 Japan Tank! Tank! Tank!
03/14 Japan Need for Speed: Most Wanted - A Criterion Game

The entire Wii U dated lineup right now. And we know Pikmin won't be there in the first 3 months, so I'm guessing Wii Fit U will be their big Q1 game?

Holy shit.

And considering how nothing has come out since launch that puts this drought on par with Vita/3DS droughts.

 

[slaughterking]

It would've been an easy one to predict, Mario RPGs sell more on handhelds.

If only it was a Mario RPG.

Well, you were wondering why people were surprised, or to be specific to your post, "flipping out".

The fact that it got that high for the first time in a long time, coupled with how the software release chart looks this week, is easily the reason why people are surprised.

I said "I was surprised" and not "wondering" if you really want to be specific to my post.

 

[Celine]

It would've been an easy one to predict, Mario RPGs sell more on handhelds.

The only outperforming "Mario RPG" on handhelds was Bowser Inside Story actually.
The rest of the M&L games is in line with the PM games.

M&L BiS : 745,701
M&L PiT : 417,391
M&L SS : 438,781

If only it was a Mario RPG.

This too

 

[schuelma]

As serious as Wii U sales defenders.

I still don't think they are completely disastrous. But they aren't good.

 

[StreetsAhead]

Holy shit.

And considering how nothing has come out since launch that puts this drought on par with Vita/3DS droughts.

3 games came out ... COD, that Simple Series stuff, and Sports Connection

 

[schuelma]

Just to play Captain Obvious:

• the Wii U needs software to improve its sales
• Nintendo has a stable of 1st party titles that have reliably moved hardware in the past
• Nintendo has a lot of time to itself in the market to get those titles released

But since Nintendo seemed to give up on the Wii a long time ago, it makes me wonder what their software development teams have been doing since.

When they announced their "launch window" lineup, I thought Nintendo had positioned themselves well. But as every week goes by, it looks more and more like they really overelied on NSMB U.

 

[Kacho]

When they announced their "launch window" lineup, I thought Nintendo had positioned themselves well. But as every week goes by, it looks more and more like they really overelied on NSMB U.

And Nintendo Land to a lesser extent.