This week historically sees increases. Vita at its higher pricepoint is probably a bit more attractive when people are handed "free" money for the New Year, while the 3DS is the kind of thing you could realistically talk your parents into getting you as a birthday present, Christmas present, etc.
Media Create Sales: Week 1, 2013 (Dec 31 - Jan 06)
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No one, and I mean no one in this thread can match the insanity that is Burntpork.
Which is a good thing btw.
he is talking about the chart which tracks the first 50 weeks from launch
bigtroyjon
Member
PSP didn't dominate the market for 1 year, let alone 2 years.
He said "it won't join" which makes me think he was making a prediction about loong term success but I could be wrong
Sorry I wasn't clear, I just meant in the context of that chart
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
3DS
The numbers are "okay" to this point, the problem is what's around the corner. Decline is coming fast, and Nintendo doesn't appear to be doing anything to alleviate that.
Numbers will probably fall to 30-35k next week. That wouldn't be Vita bad, but it would certainly not be healthy.
DragonSworne
Banned
They revealed Pokemon! Oh wait...
Nintendo is not afraid to show or reveal titles over 6 months out.
This adherence to focusing on the launch "window" games to avoid the 3DS problem is going to cost them customer enthusiasm and ultimately sales.
grimshawish
Banned
Vita bumps for games have held for a few weeks.
But for Holidays? Theres not much reason for it not just to drop again.
I'm interested too in the total MH3G numbers.
electroplankton
Banned
Yeah, 6k level is more likely.
People should realize that Vita got an (unexpected) holiday bump. It's still selling like shit, and its future is still worrying if third parties and Sony don't announce games.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I think it'll be under 15k before February. Nintendo needs to date Game & Wario asap.
I think all the talk about WiiU is more a symptom of the fact that the video games industry is still in its infancy. We don't have very much historical data to compare how the Wii U is truly doing compared to all consoles that came before it.
The way it has trended against the Wii is disheartening, but the way it is trending against the PS3 is more positive. It'd be better if we could see how the Wii U is tracking against, the N64, Super Famicom and Famicom systems, as well as the PS1.
Just like mass media, board-goers love a sensational story, so we're always looking to spin it one way or the other. In the case of the Vita, we spun it for awhile, but it has more and more looked to actually be truly struggling when compared against hard data of the past. With the WiiU, we really can't determine with any true meaning where it will end up.
It's fun to speculate, but I think it's good to temper speculation with information.
The way it has trended against the Wii is disheartening, but the way it is trending against the PS3 is more positive. It'd be better if we could see how the Wii U is tracking against, the N64, Super Famicom and Famicom systems, as well as the PS1.
Just like mass media, board-goers love a sensational story, so we're always looking to spin it one way or the other. In the case of the Vita, we spun it for awhile, but it has more and more looked to actually be truly struggling when compared against hard data of the past. With the WiiU, we really can't determine with any true meaning where it will end up.
It's fun to speculate, but I think it's good to temper speculation with information.
Possibly. Vita held out a bit longer.
I am baffled they haven't dated Wario- it is listed as "early 2013" on their own website.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
There's still every possibility that it will after the holiday bump is over, there aren't enough consistant releases to make it unlikely, unless something else changes (ie a price cut).
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Whoa you know Nintendo is screwed when DragonSworne is unhappy.
Father_Brain
Banned
I'd be pretty surprised if this actually proves correct, given the software lineup between now and Soul Sacrifice (and after).
Phew, thanks for the reminder!
michaelius
Banned
There's actually 3 months of regular game releases scheduled for vita unlike last year.
I wonder if any 2013 releases can pull an Animal Crossing and beat SM3DL and MH3G to the 2M punch... when are Dragon Quest VII 3D and MH4 out?
expect it in a month
This might put things into perspective:
System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year |
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| 3DS # | 279.259 | 250.205 | 240.819
| PSP # | 54.873 | 41.914 | 71.033 |
| PSV | 33.309 | 20.492 | 42.915
System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year |
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| 3DS # | 279.259 | 250.205 | 240.819
| PSP # | 54.873 | 41.914 | 71.033 |
| PSV | 33.309 | 20.492 | 42.915
DQ7r is Feb 7, MH4 is Summer. I doubt the former will hit 2 million although I guess close in its lifetime.
Gianni Merryman
Member
In the previous MC thread Captain Smoker extimated combined sales at 1730ish - I guess he was going by Famitsu numbers -, so now it should be over 1.750k.
grimshawish
Banned
NSMB After 24 weeks:
Wii - 3,826,530
DS - 3,324,295
3DS - 1,875,303
Thanks. So yeah not even close.
airmangataosenai
Member
I don't know if dominate was the right word, but in 2010 it was indeed the best selling gaming platform in Japan. In both 2009 and 2011 it also held that title until the final weeks of December when DS (And also Wii in 2009) produced an insane number of unit sales at the very end.
test_account
XP-39C²
6k is <10k
Out of curiousity, what type of perspective? That the 3DS is doing better than the Vita? Last year's week, that was Vita's 3rd week. After seeing the Vita sales performance for about 1 year now, it shouldnt be a surprise that it wouldnt match that week. If the Vita matched or sold more than last year's week, the reactions here would probably be even more surprised.
BishopLamont
Banned
SM3DL is at 1.8M already, you really doubt it'll do another 200k?
Huh? The 'former' in my message is Dragon Quest VII!
As far as a percentage of software of total hardware, I'm sure that NSMBU is doing just as good or probably much better than previous entries.
Its a statistical impossibility for NSMBU to match any of the previous entries from Week 1 to now.
BishopLamont
Banned
Ah my bad. I think its a possibility, DQM do pretty good numbers, so a remake of one of the best DQ could do 2M, but yes, I think a bit less than 2M is more realistic. Its just that this is the year of Pokemon, MH and DQ, which will boost the userbase to insane numbers, giving it increased momentum and so all eyes are on the 3DS, making that 2M slightly more possible.
NSMBU is doing pretty good numbers for a launch title, considering the number of released Mario platformers and titles recently, I'm not sure what else people are expecting from it either.
Lowered expectations tend to do this to people.
I also don't know what he is *exactly* trying to compare xD
Father_Brain
Banned
Regular game releases don't count for much when there's nothing, save possibly Soul Sacrifice, that's appealing to the mass market.
YoY. Vita decreased, 3DS increased.
Y'know, just in case you forgot which one was 'winning'.
electroplankton
Banned
Regular game releases don't count for much when there's nothing, save possibly Soul Sacrifice, that's appealing to the mass market.
I think some people are genuinely thinking most of those games will be system sellers.
grimshawish
Banned
Oh its totally unfair to compare it to any of them. I was more talking NSMB2.
Regular game releases don't count for much when there's nothing, save possibly Soul Sacrifice, that's appealing to the mass market.
Not for mass market, but I think the Vita's current+upcoming lineup falls to the "satisfying enough for Vita owners, ok for those who are on the fence, still not that appealing to most people". Good enough for at least 10k per week, no?
I don't know shit, actually!
Not matching the Wii=failure, didn't you get the memo?
Do we have any info on Wii Fit U? Come on Nintendo, it's one thing to not tell us about unannounced games, it's another to not tell us about announced games supposedly releasing this quarter.
I wish Nintendo would tell us about a Wii U game that was 10 months out. 10 months is an eternity in Nintendo time.
distantmantra
Member
Based on that chart and the games listed, you could ask the same thing about the WiiU.
electroplankton
Banned
I think Sony should convince people to jump on board, because with such poor numbers it cannot to keep in the market the platform.
To make it simple
:1. Vita selling less than the predecessor in the second year.
2. Vita selling less than last year.
3. Vita selling way less than competitor, who/which (?) not only a had a bump compared to last week, but also to last year.
4. For months, not a single Vita game appeared in the charts.
And the vocal minority on gaf is like Vita back from dead.
The perfect Dark
Banned
What I expect:
Nintendo Direct february
Games they will show for WiiU:
Rayman legends
Wii Fit U
Wario
Pikmin 3
Aliens Trailer
Need for Speed Trailer
Bayonetta Teaser
That's it.
Nintendo Direct february
Games they will show for WiiU:
Rayman legends
Wii Fit U
Wario
Pikmin 3
Aliens Trailer
Need for Speed Trailer
Bayonetta Teaser
That's it.