358 Days sold about that in the US, and over 500k in Japan. Since KH3D is tracking under Days in Japan, it would have to match and exceed that performance in the US for it to be considered at the very least a good choice of platform in terms of commercial success.
Media Create Sales: Week 13, 2012 (Mar 26 - Apr 01)
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358 Days sold about that in the US, and over 500k in Japan. Since KH3D is tracking under Days in Japan, it would have to match and exceed that performance in the US for it to be considered at the very least a good choice of platform in terms of commercial success.
Uh, I wasn't expecting more from KH, guess I was the only one?
You don't know how good KH sells in Japan then.
Yeah, the last two high profile S-E releases have bombed pretty bad. And the other (FFT-O) just sold okay.
lunchwithyuzo
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Not outside Japan from Square Enix.
Portugeezer
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Only KH2 did, but BbS came pretty close to it if you count Final Mix.
BbS did 225.000 first month on NPD, so it might not be that easy to match even for a much healthier system. We'll see.
bigtroyjon
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PSP(2011 YTD)= 642,660
PSP+PSV(2012)=480,478
Looking ahead to Week 14, PSP did 35,834 in 2011.
3DS+DS(2011 YTD)=1,166,876
3DS+DS(2012 YTD)=1,268,938
Looking ahead to week 14, 3DS+DS did 49,845 in 2011.
All handhelds(2011 YTD)=1,809,536
All handhelds(2012 YTD)=1,749,416
PSP+PSV(2012)=480,478
Looking ahead to Week 14, PSP did 35,834 in 2011.
3DS+DS(2011 YTD)=1,166,876
3DS+DS(2012 YTD)=1,268,938
Looking ahead to week 14, 3DS+DS did 49,845 in 2011.
All handhelds(2011 YTD)=1,809,536
All handhelds(2012 YTD)=1,749,416
Seriously, this week the 360 had a bigger percentage bump than the Vita. a 2k bump doesn't represent a fix of the underlying problem - that Vita's sales are and remain unhealthy for a new system with the pedigree it has.
I actually know it but I just wasn't expecting more, don't know why. I wasn't expecting it to match 358/2 days.
as long as it doesn't break the 10k barrier, it lives!
Bruno MB
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It pains me to say that this is the first big flop the 3DS has. Way below the numbers of Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days which only have two days of sales and barely over Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. Square Enix won't be happy at all. Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry no Wonderland 3D is not allowed to underperform.
I'm not seeing any sign of legs yet.
Good luck at clearing your shipment.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
BBS did just above 300k total in the US by the end of 2010, so it's sales fell off almost immediately.
Don't know the reason, but I think we can at least factor in the notion that this isn't solely down to the hardware. It's not like 3DS is a struggling system or has poor genre representation, like the Wii had.
Will obviously need to wait a week or two to see whether it has a less front-loaded sales curve than previous titles, though.
Kid Icarus is for all practical purposes a new IP considering the time gap involved. As for RE and KH - it takes time to build a userbase and there are a ton of games out there people could be playing.
Core game.
It kinda does not fit with the tone of your comment, does it?
I'd imagine those five million are much more active with their system than the 25 million.
Otherwise, software sales would be breaking tons of records each year as the userbase grows larger and larger.
It's less that, more expecting it to push software to the heights *it has pushed software to before*.
Defensive much? Nobody said it would sell more on Vita or that 3DS is doomed...
It's more S-E's trouble than Nintendo, really.
Yes, that's exactly what people are saying. Right. If you don't want to participate in the discussion honestly and just want to misrepresent the discussion in poor faith, then you're not really welcome in threads like this.
lunchwithyuzo
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The major difference now being that weakened Nintendo sales (3DS) are proving higher than PlayStation sales (Vita) for most 3rd party franchises. Musou, Tales, Ridge Racer; pretty much everything that traditionally sold better on PS platforms has been performing worse on Vita than on 3DS. I think this week's Pro Yakyuu Spirits is the first exception.
how so? KI didn't perform great and it can be considered a new IP and more of hardcore game. MH is pretty much the COD of Japan, though, seen more like a casual experience like we'd say COD is.
KH I'll give, but both KI and RE are kinda expected.
BassForever
Member
People are saying they should have put in on PSP cause it would have sold more for less development cost (in Japan).
Good god, nobody at all is saying that Nintendo is doomed because of this. Come on.
Nah, not defensive really, more people are just looking too much into things, and forgetting that KH3D lower than possible sales (yet still a large amount) are nothing compared to other woes in the charts (ie vita sales)
I think RE did pretty okay for a first serious handheld entry, and I suspect if Capcom follows it up with a solid sequel in a timely matter it could do even better.
fabricated backlash
Member
Am I reading this right? The 3DS sold 10 times more than the Vita this week?... Wow.
Also, how high did former Kingdom Hearts Games start out? Is it a vast underachiever.
Glad to see Monster Hunter doing so well, I hope that Capcom brings this one to Europe sooner rather than later.
Also, how high did former Kingdom Hearts Games start out? Is it a vast underachiever.
Glad to see Monster Hunter doing so well, I hope that Capcom brings this one to Europe sooner rather than later.
lunchwithyuzo
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Didn't seem to stop KH games from legging it on PS2, GBA and DS.
Would you consider PSP a bad choice of platform for KH overall since BBS couldn't manage 1.5m US+Japan?
airmangataosenai
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Expected performance but still pretty bad. It's been a common theme with third party releases for 3DS, they're never disastrous but nothing's really done particularly good numbers when it comes to established series.
Dragon Quest Monsters will be the last big test for Square, methinks. They're probably already expecting Bravely Default to bomb.
Dragon Quest Monsters will be the last big test for Square, methinks. They're probably already expecting Bravely Default to bomb.
KH has a pretty dedicated fanbase, though, and so does RE. These games were supposed to bring the core gamers to the Nintendo handheld. They were the first 'console-like experience on the go' that 3DS has to offer. They both failed, with KH more so than RE.
Look I want 3DS to succeed, I own one, but it's pretty obvious that most of those 5 million people seem to be interested in Mario rather than any of these more core gaming experiences.
What? Come on. The KH number is disappointing, but this seems like an overreaction.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Nice jump for 3DS, and glad to see Vita increase sales, even if it's just a tad. Oh, and Xbox 360 remains the PS2's bitch.
Pureauthor
Member
Now I have to wonder about the reason behind KH3D underperforming.
Meccanical
Member
People expect ridiculous numbers from everything even slightly popular now.
I don't know, the game might not even reach 1M worldwide, at least not anytime soon. I wouldn't expect that performance to be good enough to guarantee a sequel.
It's true, previous KH games had much better legs, especially on more mainstream platforms. Yes, I do consider the PSP a bad choice of platform for KH, because it is a huge international brand and the PSP was extremely limited outside of Japan in that aspect.
What I'm concerned about is that right now the 3DS looks like it might not have been a great choice either, and I'm not sure why that is that case. It should really have sold much more.