That would be my guess as well.
And yes, there will be carnage in the NPD thread.
3DS started from a higher water mark, and Vita is already trending below it on a weekly basis. It's going to be low.
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Media Create Sales: Week 14, 2012 (Apr 02 - Apr 08)
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That would be my guess as well.
And yes, there will be carnage in the NPD thread.
3DS started from a higher water mark, and Vita is already trending below it on a weekly basis. It's going to be low.
This is all assuming that its a direct MH clone and not a portable take on the Souls games (or a hybrid of DS and MH or a unique experience all its own).
It will definitely have online though I think, that's one area Sony can set it apart and with Ragnorok Odyssey doing it there is no reason not to.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
They could easily do so if they put some of their "A" teams on Vita projects instead of PS3.
bigtroyjon
Member
As long as 3DS+DS continues to see yoy declines, the 3DS isn't doing fine.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Good point. The positive side is that the big numbers Nintendo 3DS is outputting in Japan are totally free of losses coming from the foreign exchange rate. Said otherwise, it is in the interest of not only Nintendo, but of all japanese companies to try to concentrate more on the domestic market. Nintendo's earnings derive in the measure of 80-85% from overseas. They sure better try to lower this ratio if they can.
It's just the usual long period of transition between one platform and another, pretty common in US, don't worry. As I'm always saying, DS won't be reachable without new games, new ideas...but it's not now you'll see the peak of the platform.
But this is OT, since it isn't related to Japan, so...PM or NPD thread, if we want to continue
Sammy Samusu
Member
Boring ass week.
No, 3DS is doing badly in the US. 45k per week is very bad and it means sub 200k for April is a definite.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Rayman missed the Top 10, lol.
Strange you didn't notice the third position.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
So not announce something and have people complain that they aren't announcing something, or announce something and have people complain that it's too far away. Just shows you can't win with gamers today.
electroplankton
Banned
DS was selling even badly, wasn't it?
Only Rayman game that sold enough to register on a sales tracker was Rayman Raving Rabbids, and that was mainly because it was a Wii launch title.
Captain Smoker
Member
Famitsu Sales: Week 16, 2012 (Apr 09 - Apr 15)
01./01. [PSP] 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.05} (¥7.330)
02./02. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090)
03./06. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
04./03. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800)
05./07. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
06./05. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥7.980)
07./04. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥5.980)
08./09. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
09./08. [NDS] Pokemon Conquest <SLG> (Pokemon Co.) {2012.03.17} (¥5.800)
10./05. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.01} (¥4.800)
01./01. [PSP] 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.05} (¥7.330)
02./02. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090)
03./06. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
04./03. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800)
05./07. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
06./05. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥7.980)
07./04. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥5.980)
08./09. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
09./08. [NDS] Pokemon Conquest <SLG> (Pokemon Co.) {2012.03.17} (¥5.800)
10./05. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.01} (¥4.800)
frankie_baby
Member
I take it the famitsu top 10 has appeared?
Edit - wow numbers, we are being spoiled this week
Edit edit - or maybe not
Edit - wow numbers, we are being spoiled this week
Edit edit - or maybe not
slaughterking
Member
Well, this is only Sony's fault, though.
electroplankton
Banned
Very low numbers, it seems.
MH3G was at 16k last week.
I hope you agree on the fact that begging for ONE game arriving is pretty depressing.
MH3G was at 16k last week.
I hope you agree on the fact that begging for ONE game arriving is pretty depressing.
Because everything else dropped.
Sammy Samusu
Member
I did, but I don't think MH3G is past the 20k mark. Very slow week.
10. Mario & Sonic <10k?
michaelius
Banned
Yes those supper hot Vita releases should be selling gazilions of copies on 600k userbase compared to dozens of big PSP games released to mature fanbase of PSP (16 milions iirc? )
Congratulations, you just explained why Vita software sales are terrible.
So what are those dozens of big PSP releases that came out a bit before and during the Vita's run? I'm curious.
michaelius
Banned
Check threads from last few months and count how many PSP games scored 100k units first week ?
AdventureRacing
Member
What point are you trying to make? The lack of big releases and terrible HW sales are the reason for the pitiful software sales but i don't see how that excuses them in anyway.
Numerous since Vita launch.
There's like 3 in 2012 : Shining Blade, Yakuza Black Panther 2 and SRW Z(I'm not even sure that one is counted on the MC graph).
Also I wouldn't consider 100k fw with almost no legs a "big" release. It says more about Vita's dreadful support than PSP having anything significant released. (outside of SRW)
electroplankton
Banned
Yakuza: Black Panther 2, Shining Blade, Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable, I Don't Have Many Friends Portable, Tales of the Heroes: Twin Brave, Suikoden: Tsumugareshi Hyakunen no Toki, Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin II - Revelation of Evil God, PhotoKano, 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen, 7th Dragon 2020; LBX Boost just to name few.
Okay I have much higher expectation about what I call "big" releases I guess. Because outside of SRW Z none of those are particularly remarkable... Oh well...
Yakuza: Black Panther 2 is pretty big.
electroplankton
Banned
But they all sold more than 50k, some of them more than 80k and few more than 100k. They all figure an healthy environment on PSP, a situation that could have hurt PSVita, since it is not bc and it has very few games.
While it's true, the other problem is the decline of VITA software from month 1 to month 4. It just shows there are no new software being released or interesting enough to impact sales.
A bit under 150k isn't "pretty big", especially when it's a pretty big drop from a previous entry. It's decent though.
Hmm yeah you're right (I still wouldn't consider any of those "big" but that's not really the point I guess). But yeah it shows how awful the post launch software support has been. (and I'm still shocked at how badly some of the launch games sold)
At least we now know Sony is trying to make software and putting more effort in marketing them. Maybe they'll manage to create a decent hit, that would bode well for the future.
Because its an awesome game.
electroplankton
Banned
+ MHP3 still charting.
AdventureRacing
Member
Well considering no one in this thread has said anything remotely resembling what you did i'd say it doesn't sum anything up. You haven't added anything to the discussion either.
Thr vita situation right now is prretty damn dire so of course that is going to be the focus of the discussion.
Vita is doomed and will be the downfall of Sony gaming division before PS4.
There I said it.
Oh yeah that too, I'm truly impressed it kept selling so well. I kinda expected MHP3rd had reached the saturation point even before its budget re-release.
So do you want to make any point leading to a decent discussion or did you just come in here to complain about shit nobody said?
AdventureRacing
Member
Seriously? I don't want to be a backseat mod or anything but i think if you want to make it past junior status this sort of post probably isn't such a good idea.
Good, at least you made your choice, and that's the important thing!
I agree.
I think that this announce could be a very positive "re-start" point for Sony's Vita support.
DS was picking up steam by this point worldwide.
michaelius
Banned
It's Japan. Huge part of sales for typical title comes from first week and those with longer legs are exception not the norm.
So without notable software releases in those months you cannot have healthy soft sales.
So far the titles that everyone expected to sell - Tales, Gravity, Evebody Golf, Ragnarok did so accordingly to size of fanbase.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
It's all relative. A 200K April would be about what DS's first and second Aprils were combined, and bigger than any PSP April except the one that was its second month. GBA's pre-DS Aprils were a lot better, though.
electroplankton
Banned
It's not, imo.
It's the same argument: a game here and there does not help Vita performance in the market; it would be a different situation with 2-3 games announced every week on Famitsu, or a conference like the one by Nintendo in September where they announced tons of games both internal and from third parties.
Furthermore, this game probably went under development before the console was released; it's not that Sony looked at the horrible sales and said "Then, let's develop a MH clone to help to reinvigorate sales!"
WW? Not yet: DS started in US to sell much more thanks to NSMB and Lite. Neither BT did the trick. In Europe, it was already selling fine / well, by the way.