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Media Create Sales: Week 14, 2014 (Mar 31 - Apr 06)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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FalsettoVibe
Member
The answer to question 1: I can see it happening on the weeks that MK8 and Smash come out.
The answer to question 2: LOL
too soon?
I think the timing is right
Last week, a tax hike went into effect for Japan, where it was raised from 5% to 8%.
That's why you saw a nice increase for sales the week before, since consumers were getting their last chance with the 5% tax.
DrROBschiz
Member
Games man. Games
And all the AAA devs in Japan are doing most of their work in portable and mobile.
Might see some significant waits between big games in the region.
Surely you jest....
too soon?
PS4's biggest issue is no Japanese games, there's nothing to put on the chalkboard :'(
DaSorcerer7
Member
too soon?
you forgot VR
SenatorBot
Member
I really wouldn't be surprised to see the Vita outliving the 3DS and becoming the lead platform to make multiplatform Vita/4DS titles for.
prag16
Banned
It's already tracking behind it launch aligned. Week to week it essentially guaranteed to be below Wii U for awhile once Kart drops.
That said, sales for both systems are horrific.
exactly.
If japanese won't buy Ps4 when the japanese game will be released, they won't buy any other console and the japanese market won't be important anymore in the global context, surpassed by emerging market and, depending on its decline, existing markets like the UK.
Imho the biggest problems are both the japanese industry: once it will be on the next gen, things will normalize.
zerodayPopbot
Member
Be nice if Sony did something...anything.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Yep just as I thought with the Natural Doctrine sales...
With how the game was designed & unfortunately looks its going to stay that way pretty much with sales and only have a niche following.
This is coming from someone that actually likes the title too.
With how the game was designed & unfortunately looks its going to stay that way pretty much with sales and only have a niche following.
This is coming from someone that actually likes the title too.
shark sandwich
tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels
Last week:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106651160&postcount=15
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106654274&postcount=158
2 weeks ago:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106109327&postcount=505
3 weeks ago:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=104981657&postcount=51
26k is beastmode these days...oh where have the days gone..
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Wow I'm surprised Natural Doctrine on PS4 is the best selling SKU, I mean are we sure thats not PS3.
lol who would have thought the Vita would be outselling the PS4
It sold so bad it doesn't matter lol. Anyway Japan is not really relevant anymore.
What should they do? Hold a gun to the head of third party developers so they finally move on from last gen and don't just do handheld stuff?
There is an inherent problem of how the Japanese market works. Developers move on way too slow, there are no Japanese games for the new consoles, sales of consoles suck, developers even less likely to move on. Then repeat this process forever.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Lol. Good luck with that.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Tits will grow on a bull before that happens son.
Is that yearly or it happened for the first time in a while?
zerodayPopbot
Member
I don't know, something would be better than nothing. Hot shots, ape escape, maybe.
darkstar0155
Member
Wii didnt get versions of those games in part because they sold good enough to make a profit on the systems they were on. How much of the sales of FF and KH are from japan? If its the majority of sales for those games, its possible it could happen, if the PS4 continues to track this bad they could start thinking of ways to get more sales (if it sells more in the east then in the west that is, if huge amounts of those sales are from the west i dont think it will matter as the PS4 is selling good in the west). (btw, not port begging, i wouldnt buy either of them, just thinking about it from a buisness perspective).
Not happening. Unlike WiiU, PS4's worldwide sales are great. If you suggesting a WiiU version on top of PS4/Xbone, then it's like asking for a PS3 and Xbox version.
Not to mention that while PS4 sales are bad, it is because there's almost nothing out on it that appeals to Japanese audience. Yet. If there's nothing to play, why would anyone buy it. It's a genuine case of PS4 has no games in Japan.
It's also hard to compare PS4 to WiiU, that actually had great launch titles and a better release schedule. If anyone didn't see bad sales coming with this setup, then they must truly been blind.
The sad truth, it's not even a joke.
too soon?
I can think of Kingdom Hearts III, Western games and Tales of. Maybe even The Last Guardian
Edit: Oh, and Demons Souls 2 and Secret Sony JRPG
prag16
Banned
An argument about this broke out in last week's thread. How can you be so sure? It's tracking behind Wii U launch aligned (yes, holiday launch for Wii U, etc). It's baseline is creeping down dangerously close to Wii U's baseline (which should be up after Kart) already. Nintendo systems get big holiday spikes; that combined with Kart/Smash will probably hand the Holiday 2014 "win" to Wii U.
That said, if I had to guess, I'd say PS4 will probably overtake Wii U at some point (but not until at least 2016). But it's certainly not a foregone conclusion or lead pipe lock to the extent some here (and last week) are/were trying to say.
Question 1: It's highly likely to happen far more often than ONLY those two specific weeks.
Question 2: Once again, I can't see how you could completely rule it out. Can PS4 survive on JUST western games in Japan (until FFXV/KH3? If sales are bad enough there's at least a small chance of a release on more platforms. But, I mostly agree; HIGHLY HIGHLY unlikely; just not quite to the extent of a condescending "LOL".
This isn't a worldwide sales thread. And I like how all of a sudden Wii U had great launch titles and a plethora of games. Sounds a little revisionist to me. What also seems revisionist is the "everybody was expecting PS4 to sell this badly" mantra emerging the last few weeks.
test_account
XP-39C²
To be fair, many of those comments are more of a question if it could be a supply issue, they dont really claim that the lower PS4 sales is caused by supply issues.Last week:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106651160&postcount=15
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106654274&postcount=158
2 weeks ago:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106109327&postcount=505
3 weeks ago:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=104981657&postcount=51
This is the first tax increase in 17 years.
tilinelson2
Banned
Well, not long ago beast mode was ~40k because the rest was doing 10k.
too soon?
Ouch. Who were the guys who said the PS4 stabilized at 30K because it sold at that rate for two weeks?
Black Republican
Member
So no more Yakuza games for the PS3/4 ?
shark sandwich
tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106653512&postcount=137
As of last week, launch aligned, it was PS4 491,889 vs Wii U 730,490. Wii U tracking ahead of PS4 by 49%
This week it's PS4 506,739 vs Wii U 747,125. Wii U tracking ahead by 47%.
Obviously it's way too early to call at this point. But a few months ago many people on this board were convinced PS4 would obliterate Wii U's LTD Japan sales within a couple weeks. I'd say all bets are off.
darkstar0155
Member
agree with what you said, i dont think its likely for those two games to get put on the Wii U, but if the ps4 continues to track like this, its possible that the Wii U could theoretically have a larger userbase than the PS4 when those games release
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Not at all surprising. PS4 offers nothing for Japan, Japan offers nothing for the PS4.
I got banned for relaying that some Japanese friends told me the console was readily available. The hype was not real and it's now official.
I got banned for relaying that some Japanese friends told me the console was readily available. The hype was not real and it's now official.
Freeman
Banned
Add "third party support" to the board, you can write it pretty big, you won't need space for anything else. One MGSV, FFXV, KH, RE, etc, start releasing they will all be perceived as exclusives in Japan since the XOne has no presence there.
too soon?
1st question: Quite possible. I see it happening fairly soon.
2nd question: I legit just bursted into laughter in the middle of class. Good one.
Davey Cakes
Member
And what about all that "supply-constrained" bullshit?
Pure delusion.
Japan is just not a healthy environment for consoles right now. The Japanese are more interested in handhelds in general and the content on systems like Wii U and PS4 just isn't cutting it, unfortunately.
I thought PS4 sales would drop due to the lack for software but not so low so quickly.
Anyone trying to spin or make excuses for such poor numbers needs there head looked at. The PS4 is well on the way to selling under 10k a week. Thats terrible for the Wii U just as its terrible for the PS4.
Anyone trying to spin or make excuses for such poor numbers needs there head looked at. The PS4 is well on the way to selling under 10k a week. Thats terrible for the Wii U just as its terrible for the PS4.
too soon?
you need a black board filled with stuff at the begining for it to work as a meme. The wii u one has been uncanny.
haha, yeah. I guess we just need a blank one.