The "no competition" part made me laugh :lol
Forget waiting for E3, Sony needs to have a PS4 heaven.
Also, we haven't had a Vita heaven for a long time either.
This launch boggles my mind in general. Sony should have ensured that there are a few more games on PS4 for the Japanese launch, that appeal to Japan. I guess their plan was to secure the West first and then worry about Japan later. How much later is later though.
I think it's also a problem that to get a game ready for launch, they pretty much have to start developing it on PC with only vague target specs to work from. With few Japanese devs having much experience or interest in that platform, it's likely that even those interested in working on the platform waited until the final hardware was available before getting started.I think the japanese developers just got too conservative with generational changes and probably lack in the technical and organizational department. They had problems at the start of the last generation and it took a while until we saw something worthwhile from the average developer. Look how they also sticked to the PSP, just now the Vita announcements are picking up (the delay was corroborated by the weak sales). The same is happening all over again with the PS4. We still get nice PS3 annoucnements and fairly nothing for the PS4.
If you thought it was a Vita Heaven, it was really a Yandere Hell
Only on PS3
So much HYPE that comes out in a few weeks here. Cant wait for my pre-order to arrive. I just pray to god I dont have some sort of insane work schedule around then...
Its still too early to predict anything at this point. Do that after E3 / TGS.
So much HYPE that comes out in a few weeks here. Cant wait for my pre-order to arrive. I just pray to god I dont have some sort of insane work schedule around then...
I might have asked you before, but it'd be awesome if you could tell us about the more funny parts when the game arrives.
I don't see a big Japanese presence at E3, and TGS is kinda shit too...
Many announcements will just happen randomly. And probably not this year.
lol here's hoping you don't have a bad work schedule and get to enjoy all the yandere abuse
Forget waiting for E3, Sony needs to have a PS4 heaven.
Also, we haven't had a Vita heaven for a long time either.
So the PS4 has crossed 500,000 in Japan.
I wonder how long until Sony give us an updated worldwide sales figure.
I'm very interested to see inFamous and MGS' effect on sales.
PS4 doesn't need that to be successful. Its breaking records in the West. I doubt Sony care much either or even consider the situation bad in Japan due to its significance compared to the West in terms of sales.
My guess is due to the tax hike, we will see these numbers for awhile until there are big releases, which I see none of for awhile..
This one is correct:
At this point it's likely both Sony and MS are saving certain sales announcements until at least April 17th when March NPD releases
They may also be waiting until certain earnings reports as I believe MS has some quite soon, not sure on Sony
Personally I disagree. While the management of Playstation may have changed over the years I do feel it's likely some of the executives see it as a failure if they don't sell in Japan. From a business perspective Japan may be irrelevant in many ways, but from a personal morale perspective it's probably disappointing
Yeah but I was talking about at this moment in time.
Sony just launched their fourth playstation console in their home market to little fanfare
Regardless of whether it's less than stellar performance thus far is due to their own failure to secure compelling software, I have a hard time believing people like Shu and Kaz don't find it a bit demoralizing that the Japan market no longer holds the same excitement for their products
There were certainly people who believed the PS4 to be the second coming of the PS2 or something like that, but that was probably overinflated by new entrants into the thread that weren't familiar with the sales situation. Most of the informative and level-headed members were talking about the likelihood of a failed PS4 launch for months.
Code:Jump! Super Stars 261,692 31,658 (293,350) 25,619 (318,969) Jump! Ultimate Stars 169,740 75,810 (245,550) 59,804 (305,354) J-Stars Victory Vs 209,644 46,389 (256,033) 23,441 (279,474)
Still showing similar legs to Superstars despite the tax hike, but still a pretty sharp drop. I think by next week we'll have a good idea of what sort of legs it will ultimately have.
If you look at the past with the type of games that came out with the system compared to what we had with the PS4 they really did it to themselves.
They say other companies were not willing to go on board and whatnot initially, but the other part is apparently they were not able to convince them to do so.
Not the smartest thing having a bunch of multiplat stuff instead of actual exclusive.
Oh I certainly believe much of the failure comes from Sony. How hard could it be to make a new hot shots golf seriously?
But I still think that at the end of the day even if they accept that it's still disappointing. T
As I said in a previous Media Create thread, PS4 needs to go through this difficult year in Japan to build up a userbase.
Japanese devs won't shift from PS3 if there isn't anybody to sell to.
Chicken and egg.
No doubt about it. Problem is too they couldnt really create any hype as all the titles for the most part were western games, which doesnt exactly drive the market here. Hell look at how most of the time commercials were Knack and Killzone. Something wrong right there. The Japanese commercials that is.
at the same time am sure companies are dick punching themselves currently seeing how much it sold worldwide and if they had jumped on board with something / make the west launch window they would have been rolling in cash just because. well not exactly, but getting income no doubt from sales.
xbox one will save japan
The way the Japanese launch for PS4 played out makes me feel like there were European hands all over it. I'm not saying its Andrew House's fault, but it's probably Andrew House's fault
3rd parties are playing an odd game though. If they are waiting to jump to PS4 until the install base is healthier than they may in fact make themselves irrelevant by not helping transition their userbase to the new console or forever be stuck catering to the PS3 and PSV as users slowly transition to other areas for their entertainment [mobile, hostess bars...]
The thing is Andrew House seems to be pretty in touch with things not to mention does presentations in the native language that shows he knows the culture pretty well and things like that go a long way. Guy was pretty open too with reasons as why the JP launch was delayed. Which he was right about seeing the kind of lineup we had. Am pretty impressed with House so far.
Do think that its just a huge mass of problems that caused the poor launch and not just set to a single entity.
You're probably right as I haven't had too much experience with how house operates. It's disappointing that we're in for the continued irrelevancy of consoles in all forms in Japan. Maybe if we're lucky Nintendo's next handheld will be interesting
When is the next interesting week?
Truthfully nintendo shouldnt release another handheld for a while seeing how they have a pretty good thing currently. Not to mention its not like the market really wants another after having been invested in the DS / DSi / 3DS. People would be more likely to just say fuck it and wander over to their smart phones instead if nintendo was to drag out another handheld next year for example.
Am sure the devs wouldnt be too amused either considering its a whole new risk. With an unproven marketshare that is going up against smartphones in full blast now.
At least with the 3ds now its fairly powerful and has a good userbase.
24th of this month thats when SAO comes out on the Vita. Might move some units.
Also 26th of June for Freedom wars. This will most def move units.
SAO S2 will start in the summer iirc so that game might have legs.
Nowhere really. Since its not like there are that many Japanese devs who produce actual games on the PC. Most of the hardcore crowds anyways just played a lot of western titles or the falcom stuff that was released. There are other companies out there, but seriously its not that big of a number. And this is stuff that Id call actual games and not eroge related titles.
Its more the companies are making them irrelevant by not putting in actual effort keeping up with the tech or just wanting to half ass things and expect people to shell out for it. Or they start whorring out their IPs to devs overseas in hopes of hitting it big with the Western market, which is quite hit or miss.
Right now everyone seems to be more focused on profits rather than making games unfortunately. The larger companies. Thankfully the smaller ones are still doing what they do, but the quality of the products they bring out isnt what the majority of what "modern gamers" want. So they remain niche. Unless there is some sort of miracle like with what happened for From Software and Demons Souls which lead into the Dark Souls series. Though its more people just finding their roots, since From Software really did nothing different as the design MO is what they have always been doing.
Anyways there are a lot more problems going on that people realize. Ill just stop now since for the most part posts like these are a huge fucking waste of my time as hardly anyone actually pays attention to it.
too soon?
Thats not a tech demo. Its gameplay.
BY UNITS BY MEAN ERROR %
1 195,353 MasterSheen 1 19.12% darkside31337
2 200,237 Cassovia 2 27.25% hongcha
3 208,621 1st Course 3 29.79% 1st Course
4 224,500 hongcha 4 33.53% Cassovia
5 247,725 XDDX 5 35.26% XDDX
6 252,725 DrWong 6 36.11% MasterSheen
7 306,621 Roboleon 7 37.45% sörine
8 324,135 Takao 8 37.70% Roboleon
9 335,449 Jamix012 9 39.88% michaelius
10 339,694 strangedopamine 10 42.90% DrWong
11 347,175 Baki 11 43.29% Takao
12 353,455 michaelius 12 43.73% astrogamer
13 365,716 sörine 13 45.75% Jamix012
14 380,519 darkside31337 14 45.79% SwiftDeath
15 391,181 Fisico 15 48.00% Baki
16 394,175 metalslimer 16 48.11% Yeshua
17 394,175 Bruno MB 17 48.50% strangedopamine
18 403,969 SwiftDeath 18 48.78% Orgen
19 408,347 astrogamer 19 50.03% Road
20 413,067 Road 20 51.22% metalslimer
21 423,559 Psycho_Mantis 21 51.46% Fisico
22 442,449 bakman21 22 51.64% The_lascar
23 447,513 Yeshua 23 52.97% suppadoopa
24 476,513 Orgen 24 53.75% bakman21
25 478,336 baekshi 25 54.90% Psycho_Mantis
26 492,725 The_lascar 26 55.60% Bruno MB
27 528,347 suppadoopa 27 56.67% baekshi
28 602,508 Frodo 28 65.64% Frodo
29 1,061,341 Gianni Merryman 29 69.65% Gianni Merryman
|FAMITSU |darkside3|Jamix012 |michaeliu|Takao |SwiftDeat|Yeshua |MasterShe|Psycho_Ma|Frodo |strangedo|metalslim|Orgen |Gianni Me|suppadoop|astrogame|bakman21 |Baki |sörine |hongcha |baekshi |DrWong |Cassovia |The_lasca|Roboleon |Road |Bruno MB |XDDX |Fisico |1st Cours
[PS3] Gundam Extreme Vs. Full Boost | 315137| 450000| 195000| 300000| 420000| 395000| 400000| 350000| 400000| 414414| 400079| 350000| 397000| 410000| 400000| 350000| 295000| 410000| 367763| 403255| 445999| 370000| 280000| 320000| 300000| 366666| 380000| 330000| 350000| 300000
[WIU] Wii Fit U | 13631| 16000| 58000| 45000| 56000| 95000| 50000| 50000| 90000| 111111| 91889| 85000| 120000| 110000| 90000| 75000| 120000| 55000| 66566| 37572| 73111| 75000| 33000| 30000| 28000| 66666| 99000| 65000| 98000| 35000
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters 2 | 605692| 420000| 620000| 550000| 650000| 700000| 700000| 600000| 600000| 717717| 650002| 692000| 739000| 1200000| 750000| 700000| 675000| 650000| 459954| 613104| 495999| 600000| 650000| 400000| 500000| 666666| 635000| 540000| 550000| 600000
[WIU] Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze | 60385| 70000| 136000| 90000| 145000| 115000| 140000| 135000| 115000| 123123| 111889| 140000| 174000| 180000| 125000| 170000| 200000| 115000| 101101| 62048| 111111| 135000| 90000| 110000| 100000| 122222| 118000| 85000| 149000| 85000
[PS3] Yakuza Ishin | 142811| 120000| 160000| 125000| 120000| 115000| 150000| 130000| 170000| 191191| 144444| 190000| 148000| 190000| 150000| 145000| 165000| 220000| 145541| 135985| 155555| 170000| 125000| 180000| 100000| 222222| 185000| 160000| 120000| 130000
[PS4] Yakuza Ishin | 73086| 70000| 95000| 99000| 60000| 70000| 50000| 70000| 120000| 133333| 120444| 105000| 63000| 100000| 50000| 70000| 115000| 95000| 74947| 88710| 145000| 90000| 105000| 130000| 90000| 66666| 125000| 100000| 110000| 80000
[PS4] Hardware | 322083| 300000| 364000| 500000| 310000| 385000| 200000| 350000| 450000| 444444| 353772| 365000| 296000| 240000| 450000| 425000| 365000| 335000| 391193| 402999| 365000| 310000| 300000| 200000| 250000| 222222| 385000| 275000| 390000| 200000
TOTAL ABS. DIFF. | | 380,519| 335,449| 353,455| 324,135| 403,969| 447,513| 195,353| 423,559| 602,508| 339,694| 394,175| 476,513|1,061,341| 528,347| 408,347| 442,449| 347,175| 365,716| 224,500| 478,336| 252,725| 200,237| 492,725| 306,621| 413,067| 394,175| 247,725| 391,181| 208,621
MEAN ERROR % | | 19.12%| 45.75%| 39.88%| 43.29%| 45.79%| 48.11%| 36.11%| 54.90%| 65.64%| 48.50%| 51.22%| 48.78%| 69.65%| 52.97%| 43.73%| 53.75%| 48.00%| 37.45%| 27.25%| 56.67%| 42.90%| 33.53%| 51.64%| 37.70%| 50.03%| 55.60%| 35.26%| 51.46%| 29.79%
STATISTICS | FAMITSU| GAF_AVG| MIN| MAX| UNDER| OVER| CLOSEST BY
[PS3] Gundam Extreme Vs. Full Boost | 315,137| 363,799| 195,000| 450,000| 21%| 79%| 320,000 The_lascar
[WIU] Wii Fit U | 13,631| 69,825| 16,000| 120,000| | 100%| 16,000 darkside31337
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters 2 | 605,692| 631,877| 400,000|1,200,000| 41%| 59%| 600,000 MasterSheen
[WIU] Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze | 60,385| 122,534| 62,048| 200,000| | 100%| 62,048 hongcha
[PS3] Yakuza Ishin | 142,811| 153,894| 100,000| 222,222| 34%| 66%| 144,444 strangedopamine
[PS4] Yakuza Ishin | 73,086| 92,797| 50,000| 145,000| 31%| 69%| 74,947 sörine
[PS4] Hardware | 322,083| 338,780| 200,000| 500,000| 41%| 59%| 310,000 Takao
Japanese console market is really dead. Anecdotally, I have some friends who work in Japan and from them it seems like nobody really play video game anymore. Handheld gaming becomes very less visible in public. Console gaming is considered as Otaku's toys. Everyone just sticks with their phones and plays stupid LINE games. Japan need drastic change. A change that might not be applicable to the rest of the world.
As I said in a previous Media Create thread, PS4 needs to go through this difficult year in Japan to build up a userbase.
Japanese devs won't shift from PS3 if there isn't anybody to sell to.
Chicken and egg.
A year or so ago, the same argument was put forth for the Wii U when it was struggling after the initial launch sales bonanza.
How did that work out for them?
This could very well be a repeat of the Wii U situation with drops as low as the infamous 3-4k/week that the Wii U endured before the bundles/price drop. Only this time, the shoe is on the other foot.
Level-5 is developing a sequel to Yokai Watch but won't truly be revealed until a little later this month.
http://gematsu.com/2014/04/famitsu-feature-truth-rumors-2014
Doubt it considering the Wii U situation was caused by the idiocy that always seems to be at the helm within nintendo when it comes to their own home consoles. Happened with the N64, Gamecube, Wii (after its initial flash in the pan) and now the WiiU.
I'm hearing this a lot now, is this garbage turning into conventional wisdom?
Prediction League February 2014 Results
Congratulations to:
- MasterSheen, for winning by units!
- darkside31337, for winning by mean error %!
Code:BY UNITS BY MEAN ERROR % 1 195,353 MasterSheen 1 19.12% darkside31337 2 200,237 Cassovia 2 27.25% hongcha 3 208,621 1st Course 3 29.79% 1st Course 4 224,500 hongcha 4 33.53% Cassovia 5 247,725 XDDX 5 35.26% XDDX 6 252,725 DrWong 6 36.11% MasterSheen 7 306,621 Roboleon 7 37.45% sörine 8 324,135 Takao 8 37.70% Roboleon 9 335,449 Jamix012 9 39.88% michaelius 10 339,694 strangedopamine 10 42.90% DrWong 11 347,175 Baki 11 43.29% Takao 12 353,455 michaelius 12 43.73% astrogamer 13 365,716 sörine 13 45.75% Jamix012 14 380,519 darkside31337 14 45.79% SwiftDeath 15 391,181 Fisico 15 48.00% Baki 16 394,175 metalslimer 16 48.11% Yeshua 17 394,175 Bruno MB 17 48.50% strangedopamine 18 403,969 SwiftDeath 18 48.78% Orgen 19 408,347 astrogamer 19 50.03% Road 20 413,067 Road 20 51.22% metalslimer 21 423,559 Psycho_Mantis 21 51.46% Fisico 22 442,449 bakman21 22 51.64% The_lascar 23 447,513 Yeshua 23 52.97% suppadoopa 24 476,513 Orgen 24 53.75% bakman21 25 478,336 baekshi 25 54.90% Psycho_Mantis 26 492,725 The_lascar 26 55.60% Bruno MB 27 528,347 suppadoopa 27 56.67% baekshi 28 602,508 Frodo 28 65.64% Frodo 29 1,061,341 Gianni Merryman 29 69.65% Gianni Merryman |FAMITSU |darkside3|Jamix012 |michaeliu|Takao |SwiftDeat|Yeshua |MasterShe|Psycho_Ma|Frodo |strangedo|metalslim|Orgen |Gianni Me|suppadoop|astrogame|bakman21 |Baki |sörine |hongcha |baekshi |DrWong |Cassovia |The_lasca|Roboleon |Road |Bruno MB |XDDX |Fisico |1st Cours [PS3] Gundam Extreme Vs. Full Boost | 315137| 450000| 195000| 300000| 420000| 395000| 400000| 350000| 400000| 414414| 400079| 350000| 397000| 410000| 400000| 350000| 295000| 410000| 367763| 403255| 445999| 370000| 280000| 320000| 300000| 366666| 380000| 330000| 350000| 300000 [WIU] Wii Fit U | 13631| 16000| 58000| 45000| 56000| 95000| 50000| 50000| 90000| 111111| 91889| 85000| 120000| 110000| 90000| 75000| 120000| 55000| 66566| 37572| 73111| 75000| 33000| 30000| 28000| 66666| 99000| 65000| 98000| 35000 [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters 2 | 605692| 420000| 620000| 550000| 650000| 700000| 700000| 600000| 600000| 717717| 650002| 692000| 739000| 1200000| 750000| 700000| 675000| 650000| 459954| 613104| 495999| 600000| 650000| 400000| 500000| 666666| 635000| 540000| 550000| 600000 [WIU] Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze | 60385| 70000| 136000| 90000| 145000| 115000| 140000| 135000| 115000| 123123| 111889| 140000| 174000| 180000| 125000| 170000| 200000| 115000| 101101| 62048| 111111| 135000| 90000| 110000| 100000| 122222| 118000| 85000| 149000| 85000 [PS3] Yakuza Ishin | 142811| 120000| 160000| 125000| 120000| 115000| 150000| 130000| 170000| 191191| 144444| 190000| 148000| 190000| 150000| 145000| 165000| 220000| 145541| 135985| 155555| 170000| 125000| 180000| 100000| 222222| 185000| 160000| 120000| 130000 [PS4] Yakuza Ishin | 73086| 70000| 95000| 99000| 60000| 70000| 50000| 70000| 120000| 133333| 120444| 105000| 63000| 100000| 50000| 70000| 115000| 95000| 74947| 88710| 145000| 90000| 105000| 130000| 90000| 66666| 125000| 100000| 110000| 80000 [PS4] Hardware | 322083| 300000| 364000| 500000| 310000| 385000| 200000| 350000| 450000| 444444| 353772| 365000| 296000| 240000| 450000| 425000| 365000| 335000| 391193| 402999| 365000| 310000| 300000| 200000| 250000| 222222| 385000| 275000| 390000| 200000 TOTAL ABS. DIFF. | | 380,519| 335,449| 353,455| 324,135| 403,969| 447,513| 195,353| 423,559| 602,508| 339,694| 394,175| 476,513|1,061,341| 528,347| 408,347| 442,449| 347,175| 365,716| 224,500| 478,336| 252,725| 200,237| 492,725| 306,621| 413,067| 394,175| 247,725| 391,181| 208,621 MEAN ERROR % | | 19.12%| 45.75%| 39.88%| 43.29%| 45.79%| 48.11%| 36.11%| 54.90%| 65.64%| 48.50%| 51.22%| 48.78%| 69.65%| 52.97%| 43.73%| 53.75%| 48.00%| 37.45%| 27.25%| 56.67%| 42.90%| 33.53%| 51.64%| 37.70%| 50.03%| 55.60%| 35.26%| 51.46%| 29.79% STATISTICS | FAMITSU| GAF_AVG| MIN| MAX| UNDER| OVER| CLOSEST BY [PS3] Gundam Extreme Vs. Full Boost | 315,137| 363,799| 195,000| 450,000| 21%| 79%| 320,000 The_lascar [WIU] Wii Fit U | 13,631| 69,825| 16,000| 120,000| | 100%| 16,000 darkside31337 [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters 2 | 605,692| 631,877| 400,000|1,200,000| 41%| 59%| 600,000 MasterSheen [WIU] Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze | 60,385| 122,534| 62,048| 200,000| | 100%| 62,048 hongcha [PS3] Yakuza Ishin | 142,811| 153,894| 100,000| 222,222| 34%| 66%| 144,444 strangedopamine [PS4] Yakuza Ishin | 73,086| 92,797| 50,000| 145,000| 31%| 69%| 74,947 sörine [PS4] Hardware | 322,083| 338,780| 200,000| 500,000| 41%| 59%| 310,000 Takao
Bad phase for me...