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No waifus to marry.
hanspampel
Banned
really wonder how long Switch will hold this ~45k baseline
Bruno MB
Member
It will look great compared to 2 years ago after-Golden Week sales.
Nintendo 3DS - 16.355
PlayStation 4 - 11.489
PlayStation Vita - 11.124
Nintendo Wii U - 6.428
PlayStation 3 - 2.964
Xbox One - 148
All Consoles - 48.508
Eh, not really. It's still supply constrained so it'll be sure to sell out.
PS4 VS PS3
Switch VS 3DS
Switch weekly sales
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| | PlayStation 3 | PlayStation 4 | Difference |
| | (2006/11/11) | (2014/02/22) | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | PS4 - PS3 |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 166| 61.591|4.562.958| 19.334|4.679.224| 116.266|
| 167| 35.156|4.598.114| 25.303|4.704.526| 106.412|
| 168| 26.966|4.625.080| 27.954|4.732.481| 107.401|
| 169| 34.431|4.659.511| | | |
| 170| 25.450|4.684.961| | | |
| 171| 24.811|4.709.772| | | |
| 172| 32.130|4.741.902| | | |
| 173| 27.763|4.769.665| | | |
| 174| 28.824|4.798.489| | | |
| 175| 26.481|4.824.970| | | |
| 176| 50.164|4.875.134| | | |
| 177| 50.448|4.925.582| | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|Switch VS 3DS
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| | Nintendo 3DS | Nintendo Switch | Difference |
| | (2011/02/26) | (2017/03/03) | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | NSW - 3DS |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 8| 28.252| 897.095| 48.694| 700.573| -196.522|
| 9| 23.038| 920.133| 76.679| 777.252| -142.881|
| 10| 28.413| 948.546| 47.911| 825.163| -123.383|
| 11| 29.149| 977.695| | | |
| 12| 18.324| 996.019| | | |
| 13| 17.240|1.013.259| | | |
| 14| 24.283|1.037.542| | | |
| 15| 27.357|1.064.899| | | |
| 16| 24.649|1.089.548| | | |
| 17| 40.649|1.130.197| | | |
| 18| 27.905|1.158.102| | | |
| 19| 30.233|1.188.335| | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|Switch weekly sales
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| | 3DS | PSV | WIU | PS4 | NSW |
|La|2011.02.26|2011.12.17|2012.12.08|2014.02.22|2017.03.03|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| 1| 374.764| 324.859| 308.142| 309.154| 329.152|
| 2| 209.623| 72.479| 126.916| 65.685| 61.998|
| 3| 96.463| 42.648| 122.843| 35.294| 49.913|
| 4| 61.394| 42.915| 69.386| 29.677| 78.441|
| 5| 50.710| 18.361| 67.083| 30.201| 45.509|
| 6| 42.979| 15.219| 20.715| 23.327| 41.193|
| 7| 32.910| 18.942| 16.654| 13.401| 45.673|
| 8| 28.252| 17.141| 13.746| 13.034| 48.694|
| 9| 23.038| 13.939| 12.959| 14.396| 76.679|
|10| 28.413| 12.309| 12.185| 12.712| 47.911|
|11| 29.149| 11.186| 10.744| 11.486| |
|12| 18.324| 10.023| 9.633| 8.480| |
|13| 17.240| 10.041| 10.021| 6.792| |
|14| 24.283| 10.021| 9.454| 7.543| |
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+Not really, shipments were low for last 2 weeks, there is no way demand was satisfied.
Kresnik258
Member
Golden Weak indeed.
Zelda is slowly climbing to that magical million
Switch is still doing well no Wii U situation confirmed + Minecraft coming this week so sales should stay stable till arms + splatoon. And ofcourse there still is supply constraints.
Switch seems to get Vita like support too in Japan so that's very good.
Honestly i am surprised how well the Switch is doing World Wide because in my honest opinion i thought it would take of around the holiday season. Reason is because then bundles and more games are out. Anyway i am happy that i was wrong Nintendo deserves it the Switch is a real fantastic product and playing Zelda + Mariokart at times i normally can't is very cool!
And i want to ofcourse atleast to have between 2-4 more decades of Ninty games honestly imo all three deserve to be around for a while longer!
Sorry for the last part being slightly off topic.
Edit: Nier doing pretty good is also very nice it's one of my most favorite games ever
Switch is still doing well no Wii U situation confirmed + Minecraft coming this week so sales should stay stable till arms + splatoon. And ofcourse there still is supply constraints.Switch seems to get Vita like support too in Japan so that's very good.
Honestly i am surprised how well the Switch is doing World Wide because in my honest opinion i thought it would take of around the holiday season. Reason is because then bundles and more games are out. Anyway i am happy that i was wrong Nintendo deserves it the Switch is a real fantastic product and playing Zelda + Mariokart at times i normally can't is very cool!
And i want to ofcourse atleast to have between 2-4 more decades of Ninty games
honestly imo all three deserve to be around for a while longer!Sorry for the last part being slightly off topic.
Edit: Nier doing pretty good is also very nice it's one of my most favorite games ever
Triplicates
Member
I wanted to look at Japanese publishers and their reliance on foreign markets since it's been a recent discussion point. Here is a sampling:
Bandai Namco pg. 71: https://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/library/pdf/annual/en_2016_annual.pdf
Capcom pg. 91: http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/data/pdf/annual/2015/annual_2015_01.pdf
Square-Enix pg. 66: http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/pdf/ar_2016en.pdf
Konami pg. 24: https://www.konami.com/ir/en/ir-data/statements/2017/en0131_7px5xn.pdf
Koei-Tecmo pg. 25: https://www.koeitecmo.co.jp/e/ir/docs/ird4_20160930.pdf
Sega pg. 120: http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/library/pdf/printing_annual/2016/all_ar2016_e.pdf
Bandai Namco, Konami, and Sega make a ton of money on other types of businesses, but you can basically subtract the entire revenues of those segments from the Japan total, and Japan still remains the largest region by far.
The numbers speak for themselves. It's important to note that these are driven by mobile software, but let's be aggressive and cut sales by 2/3s or 3/4s or more to account for that, and Japan is still comfortably ahead. Proportionally, foreign markets are small to Japanese publishers. Of course they want to expand overseas, but the homeland will remain the most important for the foreseeable future.
Bandai Namco pg. 71: https://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/library/pdf/annual/en_2016_annual.pdf
Capcom pg. 91: http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/data/pdf/annual/2015/annual_2015_01.pdf
Square-Enix pg. 66: http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/pdf/ar_2016en.pdf
Konami pg. 24: https://www.konami.com/ir/en/ir-data/statements/2017/en0131_7px5xn.pdf
Koei-Tecmo pg. 25: https://www.koeitecmo.co.jp/e/ir/docs/ird4_20160930.pdf
Sega pg. 120: http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/library/pdf/printing_annual/2016/all_ar2016_e.pdf
Bandai Namco, Konami, and Sega make a ton of money on other types of businesses, but you can basically subtract the entire revenues of those segments from the Japan total, and Japan still remains the largest region by far.
The numbers speak for themselves. It's important to note that these are driven by mobile software, but let's be aggressive and cut sales by 2/3s or 3/4s or more to account for that, and Japan is still comfortably ahead. Proportionally, foreign markets are small to Japanese publishers. Of course they want to expand overseas, but the homeland will remain the most important for the foreseeable future.
darkstar0155
Member
I know there was some discussion about this and a lot of people thought BotW wouldn't hit 1mil in japan. Not looking good for that argument (I always thought 1mil was a high probability)
Along that same line, many thought MK8D would kill BotW legs. Given its only been two weeks, and last week was GW, but that isn't seeming to be the case as of yet.
Hero of Legend
Member
Most likely in the early 20's. It was absent in its 5th week also but came back on week 6 and stayed for four in a row until now. Hopefully it returns next week and we can fill in the blank from this week.
If it keeps selling out week after week at 40K-50K during slow summer it would be a very good sign for Switch.
Switch has the chance to outsell that whole week lol.
It will reach it somewhere late 2018 or early 2019 is my prediction, does it include digital sales?
Pretty sure BotW will get lots of GOTY's so a GOTY versionwith all dlc somewhere in 2018 is highly possible, wich ofcourse can give it a small boost it needs for dat 1m.
Edit: the second dlc pack could also boost sales if it is highly praised. The first one seems like filler so i doubt that will boost sales.
darkstar0155
Member
Late 2018? I say more like early 2018 after the DLC hits and the holidays. I haven't extrapolated the numbers but I say by March 2018 it will be there. So within a year of release.
only 3 Zelda games have ever sold above a million in japan and only one of those was in a non-NES console (OoT)
it was reasonable to not expect this entry to get over a million. the fact it's beating expectations is probably blowing away many people.
hanspampel
Banned
Switch could be the fist home console with Handheld performance in JP
and a Switch mini version without dock is inevitable as a replacement for 3DS later
and a Switch mini version without dock is inevitable as a replacement for 3DS later
darkstar0155
Member
I agree it was reasonable to expect it to not come close at first.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Pokemon Sun / Moon (+64%)
Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki (+68%)
Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki (+68%)
ethomaz
Banned
There are 7 weeks where PS4 and PS3 will be at close baseline... so the gap will shrink about 20-30k but PS4 receives DQXI at the end of these 7 weeks.
PS4 will cross 5m first with around 40-50k over PS3.
Can't wait to see Dengeki's number for MK8D after the insane discrepancy from last week.
lol no for Skyward Sword (it's around 400k)
TP is around 600k iirc (check last week's thread, someone posted exact numbers there).
lol no for Skyward Sword (it's around 400k)
TP is around 600k iirc (check last week's thread, someone posted exact numbers there).
DecoReturns
Member
The Last One
Member
Pokemon Sun / Moon (+64%)
Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki (+68%)
6.940 / 3.256.775 (+64%)
5.363 / 716.405 (+68%)
Dat legs (and tight, and ass)
1st Course
Member
Namco publish regional sales for dedicated hardware
http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/library/pdf/en_20170510_1Result.pdf
So does Sega
https://www.segasammy.co.jp/english...nt/2017/20170206_3q_tanshinhosoku_e_final.pdf
Both make way more from the oversea markets. Konami doesn't publish such data but you probably got how flawed is your analysis.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Pokemon Sun / Moon (+64%)
Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki (+68%)
lol6.940 / 3.256.775 (+64%)
5.363 / 716.405 (+68%)
Until Nintendo can up supply weekly.
Mr. Pointy
Member
I'm surprised Nintendo didn't bump the shipment up to 75k or so for this week. I guess they're saving up for ARMS and Splatoon 2.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
I think they sell all Switches they produce instantly, they are not "saving up" things. Why should they? So that even more people fight for Switches when ARMS or Splatoon release?
They just don't have the units, otherwise they'd be supplying bigger shipments worldwide.
By the time splatoon releases they should've upped their production lines (doing that takes time).
Capcom and Koei Tecmo also give regional breakdowns. Capcom's biggest market seems to shift between NA and Japan quarterly depending on releases. Koei Tecmo's biggest is always unsurprisingly Japan, and usually it's more than NA, Europe and Asia combined.Namco publish regional sales for dedicated hardware
http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/library/pdf/en_20170510_1Result.pdf
So does Sega
https://www.segasammy.co.jp/english...nt/2017/20170206_3q_tanshinhosoku_e_final.pdf
Both make way more from the oversea markets. Konami doesn't publish such data but you probably got how flawed is your analysis.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Gaiden was infamous for having really crappy maps iirc and the remake didn't change that part.
Um Link to the Past (SNES) sold over 1M as well according to gamedatalibrary. Your general point still stands though.
I wonder if the success of games like Nier is telling Japanese companies to try making something new as opposed to the previously proven game sequels? If anything, it seems like expected game sequels (FFXV, RE7, Yakuza) have declined in Japan, even if they went in very new directions (FFXV & RE7), but newer/unexpected entries (Nier, DQHeroes, Western titles like Horizon & Tom Clancy) are doing better than expected. Like at this point, isn't Nier looking to outsell RE7 & Yakuza 6 if it hasn't already (at least in MC, Famitsu has lower #s for it).
Can Nier do 500k lifetime in Japan on PS4?
That will almost 3x of its First week sales, i dont think many games have done so on PS4