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Media Create Sales: Week 21, 2013 (May 20 - May 26)
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Neo Geo Pocket Color.
shinra-bansho
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Publishers and retailers are looking at sales as they are right now, and as they think they will be for the foreseeable future, to determine whether to green-light projects and how much and which shelf space to allocate, respectively.
They can't wait until Super Mario U releases and push a button to port their titles suddenly.
And there was a game this week; Revelations.
Pippin @?
But they don't make that anymore. You can't boost hardware that isn't being sold. I don't understand...
PS4.
vita would be the best bet in terms of moving hardware. sales numbers would be higher on ps3 though
DarkLordMalik
Member
So it sold a lot more despite being on a smaller user base. Good for VITA, i guess. It has mostly shown very high attach ratio compared to other platforms.
Wii U is slowly creeping to its grave.
How much will the E3 announcement have an impact on sales numbers? For VITA and Wii U, i mean.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Xbox One with Kinect 2.0 Exclusive features.
But seriously, a PS3 port would do well. If they release it simultaneously on the Vita and PS3, it can give decent bump on the Vita since there's a, assuming as much, Persona fanbase there due to P4G.
Sammy Samusu
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pieatorium
Member
WiiU? not really any other of the same types of games there so even if it sold half as much as if it was on other platforms alot of that could be assumed to be people who don't already own the system
3DS since the main series is on that platform
slaughterking
Member
I don't think that matters considering how Persona is more of a respectable seller than anything of greater significance.
It would be such a big exclusive it would force SNK to start manufacturing it again!
Gotta be Vita.
Which is why it'll probably come out on something else. Cruel, cruel world.
Given I try to collect most systems anyway, I *think* I'll be fine.
please don't be n-gage, please don't be n-gage.
(Actually, iOS but not Android would screw me over somewhat, too. And that's... distressingly close to plausible.)
michaelius
Banned
Capcom ported it to everything except Vita citing some stupid crap like screen has too big resolution.
So low sales on Wii U makes me happy because Vita version would outsell it which means they lost money on being assholes.
razoftblend
Member
Damn, hardware sales is pretty low. Even that number is pretty low for what the 3DS normally does.
As for RE Revelations on wi u, I guess some sort of overlapping happened here. I would assume most people with a 3DS have a wii u and bought the portable version.
Heck, even the ps3 version seems low for what is arguably the better game (against re6). I wonder is Capcom will take note of that.
As for RE Revelations on wi u, I guess some sort of overlapping happened here. I would assume most people with a 3DS have a wii u and bought the portable version.
Heck, even the ps3 version seems low for what is arguably the better game (against re6). I wonder is Capcom will take note of that.
pieatorium
Member
I think the dexcision to port re:r was made more for the western markets than Japan
Really. Isnt that like someone saying they should of released Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 or SF V Tekken on the 3DS and glad to see it tanked on the Vita as on the 3DS it would of sold more?
Where would it stop?
In Japan, or WW?
Japan, I'd have to say Vita. It's a new game, P4G did well on the system, and it's a handheld that - to me, as an outsider (so quite possibly completely ignorant) - has built up a perception that it's the system that doesn't get the big-name popular franchises.
That's excluding PS4 and Xbox One from consideration completely; if they were included, Xbox One. In that I'm expecting it to have pitiful sales anyway, but proportional to the overall sales of the system, I think P5 would result in a noticeable uptick. I don't think it'd be in any way a sensible choice unless they've got a more solid long-term plan for Japan, of course, but I do think P5 would have an impact.
PS4... I think there's an expectation there, anyway. I don't think P5 would make much of an impact in the sales of the system due to a vague expectation amongst the audience - whether justified or otherwise - that it'd get games like that *automatically*.
Not much, if any impact at all. I believe back when MH4 was announced for the 3DS, there was a small bump on the 3DS sales. But nothing very significant. Games still need to be released for a real impact.
Father_Brain
Banned
Yeah, I saw that post and was actually thinking of it. It's obviously not inaccurate, but focusing on percentages and relative increases is kinda selective given just how low last year's numbers were.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Biggest impact on Vita? Regarding hardware sales? I don't think this is true, because there already is a Persona on Vita, so this should limit the effect on hardware sales somewhat. I'd guess Wii U, because it doesn't have a Persona nor a similar game. This is not to say, Wii U would be a wise hardware decision. I'd say 3DS would be the best hardware to chose if they want to maximise thenumkber of units sold. It wouldn't impact the 3DS' hardware sales as much as Wii U's, though, because 3DS already has SMT, which is quite similar and should a have a lot of crossover in the fanbases.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Vita has a definite chance to revive itself.
Wii U, with each passing week is losing any chance of reviving itself. I think people are waiting for Nintendo to pull a 3DS (combo of game onslaught + price drop) before buying.
Biggest impact?
WiiU or Vita for sure.
PS4 will have every RPG series and RPG fans will buy it regardless of P5.
For 3DS it is only another feather in its cap and will probably only impact systems sales for a week or 2.
With Wii U it will be a game to buy a system for. Actually Fire Emblem x SMT would be a game the hardcore will buy the system for but having P5 on the way would keep people from instantly selling the hardware back to the game stores to get a good return (see Blue Dragon on the 360). X on the horizon could also help.
As for Vita, fans already migrated to the system for P4G, having another game on the system would cement the Vita as the Persona system.
Personally I want to see it on the Wii U. Without some interesting exclusives on the Wii U I think we might be in for a very boring console generation sales-age wise. I can't see XB One selling anything in Japan, PS4 will likely grab every 3rd party game and all of the hardcore gaming fans (in the home console space). If Nintendo doesn't step up their game this is going to be a one-man race and that is boring to watch.
P5 on Vita makes more sense, but it would be less fun to watch.
I come here for the drama. Games are a close second. Brand loyalty doesn't even come into it.
WiiU or Vita for sure.
PS4 will have every RPG series and RPG fans will buy it regardless of P5.
For 3DS it is only another feather in its cap and will probably only impact systems sales for a week or 2.
With Wii U it will be a game to buy a system for. Actually Fire Emblem x SMT would be a game the hardcore will buy the system for but having P5 on the way would keep people from instantly selling the hardware back to the game stores to get a good return (see Blue Dragon on the 360). X on the horizon could also help.
As for Vita, fans already migrated to the system for P4G, having another game on the system would cement the Vita as the Persona system.
Personally I want to see it on the Wii U. Without some interesting exclusives on the Wii U I think we might be in for a very boring console generation sales-age wise. I can't see XB One selling anything in Japan, PS4 will likely grab every 3rd party game and all of the hardcore gaming fans (in the home console space). If Nintendo doesn't step up their game this is going to be a one-man race and that is boring to watch.
P5 on Vita makes more sense, but it would be less fun to watch.
I come here for the drama. Games are a close second. Brand loyalty doesn't even come into it.
Sammy Samusu
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metalslimer
Member
Wii U apparently decided to end its friendship with Vita and start hanging out with the 360. It's actually going below 5k...
What's interesting? Vita is still bad and looking to only get worse with no games. 3DS still dominates. Wii U is pathetic and the rest of the systems are headed towards the grave after a long life.
What's interesting? Vita is still bad and looking to only get worse with no games. 3DS still dominates. Wii U is pathetic and the rest of the systems are headed towards the grave after a long life.
ps3 would be the best hardware for unit sales because that's where the fanbase is plus the 3ds hardware isn't that powerful for a significant upgrade from previous iterations for it to make sense. i do think it will probably get a persona 3 remake though coinciding with the movie.
Mortimer Brewster
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Better on 3DS with it's large userbase, tighter with Monhun and Pokemon
I still think Atlus likes the idea of having the Persona series on the Playstations with all the other MegaTen games on Nintendo devices. It allows them to keep both Sony and Nintendo happy. That could all change though if either decides they want to drop a moneyhat for exclusivity.
Now Bandai will rush out another sequel within 12 months that is going to sell half of what this one did. The story of PS3 licensed games.
{2013.05.23} [PS3] Kamen Rider: Battride War (Bandai Namco) - 118.157 / NEW
{2009-08-06} [PS2] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes (Bandai Namco) - 52.763 / 99.756
{2009-12-03} [WII] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes W (Bandai Namco) - 22.832 / 101.630
{2010-12-02} [WII] Kamen Rider Climax Heroes OOO (Bandai Namco) - 28.933 / 108.225
{2010-12-02} [PSP] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes OOO (Bandai Namco) - 46.702 / 81.514
{2011-12-01} [WII] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes Fourze (Bandai Namco) - 21.736 / 76.694
{2011-12-01} [PSP] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes Fourze (Bandai Namco) - 19.929 / 37.707
{2012-11-29} [WII] Kamen Rider: Super Climax Heroes (Bandai Namco) - 18.395 / 25.319
{2012-11-29} [PSP] Kamen Rider: Super Climax Heroes (Bandai Namco) - 21.115 / 21.115
{2011-08-04} [NDS] All Kamen Rider: Rider Generation (Bandai Namco) - 45.114 / 108.020
{2012-08-02} [NDS] All Kamen Rider: Rider Generation 2 (Bandai Namco) - 20.667 / 43.532
{2012-08-02} [PSP] All Kamen Rider: Rider Generation 2 (Bandai Namco) - 14.530 / 14.530
{2010-07-29} [NDS] Kamen Rider Battle: Ganbaride Card Battle Taisen (Bandai Namco) - 57.385 / 133.538
{1998-10-01} [PS1] Kamen Rider (Bandai) - 29.682 / 57.827
{2000-09-14} [PS1] Kamen Rider: V3 (Bandai) - 14.365 / 19.062
{2000-12-21} [PS1] Kamen Rider: Kuuga (Bandai) - - / 49.566
{2001-11-29} [PS1] Kamen Rider: Agito (Bandai) - 13.728 / 51.502
{2002-11-28} [PS1] Kamen Rider: Ryuki (Bandai) - 37.264 / 126.387
{2003-11-27} [PS2] Kamen Rider: Justice Lineage (Banpresto) - 45.540 / 94.432
{2003-12-18} [PS2] Kamen Rider: 555 (Bandai) - 36.287 / 91.396
{2004-12-09} [PS2] Kamen Rider: Blade (Bandai) - 25.838 / 66.643
{2005-12-01} [PS2] Kamen Rider: Hibiki Oni (Bandai) - 9.253 / 22.605
{2006-11-30} [PS2] Kamen Rider: Kabuto (Bandai Namco) - 20.570 / 44.588
{2008-02-21} [PS2] Pachitte Chonmage Tatsujin 14: Pachinko Kamen Rider - Shocker Zenmetsu Daisakusen (Hackberry) - 13.550 / 26.625
{2004-04-15} [PS2] Pachitte Chonmage Tatsujin 5: CR Kamen Rider (Hackberry) - 6.796 / 22.490
metalslimer
Member
?? SMT4 just outsold SMT3 with not a big upgrade, so how does this make any sense. I think we should have learned by now that graphics are not the important thing for many series in Japan at this point. Besides Nirolak was talking about hardware sales and PS3 is at the end of its life anyway. If the 3DS was more powerful the best option would have been PS3/3DS, but now I would say its definitely going to be on PS3 with possible Wii U/Vita ports if there are any deals in place.
Magicpaint
Member
Probably referring to the software charts.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
God damn I am sure a Vita version would have sold better. Whats stopping the WiiU from slowly descending. Surely it would have stabilised right now, as correct me if I am wrong, wasn't the PSV's lowest sales due to it being the weeks leading up to a price cut. So with no price cut in sight or games can this reach even lower lows?
Oh look Persona 5 platform discussions. I think the platform that will benefit the most would be PS4 or PSV.
That said I think it obvious to everyone thats its going to be on the PS3.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Precisely how. it had a 50k price cut and it's at 10k a week in sales. Sony predicts less than 5million for the next fiscal year. Outside of a miracle game, I'd probably say it's dead Jim. Unless support magically explodes there's nothing on the horizon that can push it anymore. You'll get the occasional bump due to games but it's really just fading into obscurity right now,
Wii u still has it's trial fire check list before I can consider it the same though it's definitely heading there without a major change in course.
Yeah, it would sell the most copies of the game on PS3 but it's impact on increasing sales of PS3 hardware at this point would be almost nothing.
Yet SMT4 is on it, hardly an upgrade (visually) over SMT3 which came out on SP2.
P5 makes most sense on PS3 but I almost feel like sacrificing better visuals for exclusive Vita version but that's wishful thinking and nothing more. Unless Sony happens.
prag16
Banned
Gotcha. In terms of the investors you're absolutely right. Every week that goes by with such low sales certainly does matter.
We'll see what kind of bump they get worldwide in Q4. If I had to guess I think the Wii U has a decent chance at outselling PS4/xbone, but then dropping back below those consoles early next year. We'll see. October-December is the make or break for Nintendo, infinitely more important than the rest of the year.
Absolutely, it's easy to make it look like an astronomical leap when you're doubling a low figure.
I went for Vita because Japan seems to have a natural predisposition to handhelds. Persona 4G has already built a small base, but nothing compared to the number of people that would buy hardware for a new Persona (that's the impression I get anyway, I'm not a fan of the series). In addition, I figured by the time it releases, the Wii-U should have the Nintendo heavy hitters arriving which will have a much bigger impact on Wii-U hardware numbers.
Keep telling yourself that. Every month, it hits a new low. This is not a good thing in any way shape or form, and it does matter.
metalslimer
Member
If anything Wii U should at least outsell PS4 in Japan this holiday. If not then they might as well just pack it up. I'm a lot more skeptical of it having a chance in the west.
Edit: Putting PS5 on Vita would be a terrible idea for the series considering its popularity in the west. There's no guarantee of how many Vita will even exist in stores by the time it would come out.