chickdigger802
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And people thought pokemon battles on handhelds couldn't get slower than diamond/pearl
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Media Create Sales: Week 24, 2012 (Jun 11 - Jun 17)
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And people thought pokemon battles on handhelds couldn't get slower than diamond/pearl
I'll back Pokemon. It has the ability to sell twice to a single purchaser.
While not many people will do that, it'll boost the figures by some.
BassForever
Member
Next year the 3DS is going to get it's for true Pokemon title, either gen 6 or RSE remakes. For awhile I thought it was going to be RSE remakes to give Gamefreak more time for gen 6. Though based upon how fast the anime is moving and the fact they're including multiple legendary pokemon in one film as opposed to spreading them out as per usual I get the feeling they're rushing to get to gen 6.
BishopLamont
Banned
NSMB2 is more of a proper new sequel than White2/Black2 and its the bigger seller of the two franchises in raw numbers. Its also a 3DS game, subconsciously new 3DS owners will want to buy a 3DS game rather than a DS one (won't happen alot, but it'll make a difference I'm guessing). I don't think there's as many people buying both versions of the game as you think.
Only thing against NSMB2 is that it has competition from NSMB U and it doesn't have the huge DS userbase to sell to, but on the flip side the 3DS userbase is more active and the last NSMB game was 2.5 years ago, as opposed to Pokemon's 1.5.
I'm betting on NSMB2.
electroplankton
Banned
Indeed, the first Pokémon DS got was Diamond / Pearl, two years after the launch.
BassForever
Member
Total numbers BW2 > NSMB2, by individual units sold though NSMB2 > either version of B2W2
I see BW2 sitting around 4 million as LTD.
NSMB2 will do more (unless digital sales are greater than I expect from Japan).
electroplankton
Banned
More than 4 million units?
That would be astonishing, imo. Or maybe I'm overrating the power of 2D Mario.
BishopLamont
Banned
NSMB DS is at 6.2M and Black/White is at 5.5M.
NSMB Wii is still on the charts and it doesn't have the benefit of consoles being moved every week like the Pokemon Black/White does. Pokemon will open bigger than NSMB2, but NSMB2 should easily out leg it.
Shit in 2011, 5 years after the release of NSMB DS, the game sold over 200k. NSMB Wii achieved the same in 2011, even with Wii sales being basically dead. No Pokemon titles have such staying power. (ok except Pokemon B/R/G/Y, but that was first gen and an outlier)
BishopLamont
Banned
Why would they need to?
The original context for the discussion has got a little lost - it was strictly in terms of sales in Japan for this year. I agree with you from a long-term standpoint.
BishopLamont
Banned
Oh for this year, yeah Pokemon will probably win. The 3DS doesn't have a big enough of a userbase for NSMB2 to make up for the DS userbase advantage and that huge as first week sales of Pokemon. Still both games are launching pretty close, it'll be an interesting race.
I would assume that they've already built the models with the express intent of being able to render four of them (plus scenery? Possibly.) on a given scene. Creating more detail than that just for the Pokedex strikes me as unwise, unless they've got some nice LOD work going on.
electroplankton
Banned
They're also working on the Pokémon of all other generations, for Pokédex 3D Pro. Imo, such models will be used in some way. If they stick in separate battle environment, they should be able to manage those models without problems.
God Eater 2 News Coming Soon
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/06/25/god-eater-2-news-coming-soon/
Timing would suggest that this might be a Vita/PSP release and presented at the Vita Game Heaven thing.
So it most likely is a 3DS exclusive now.
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/06/25/god-eater-2-news-coming-soon/
Timing would suggest that this might be a Vita/PSP release and presented at the Vita Game Heaven thing.
So it most likely is a 3DS exclusive now.
Nah, devs saw how huge Persona 4 sold and a big hardware boost so now they are making God Eater 2 a vita exclusive.
I think they would already have announced it if it was also a 3DS title - its clearly PSP/Vita or Vita-exclusive.
3DS has Monster Hunter and all, but the Vita is still the superior device for these kind of games.
Also Bamco is still one of the strongest supporters of the PSP, i doubt they would release it on 3DS instead of PSP.
3DS has Monster Hunter and all, but the Vita is still the superior device for these kind of games.
Also Bamco is still one of the strongest supporters of the PSP, i doubt they would release it on 3DS instead of PSP.
Speaking of which, not a sales-related question, but was God Eater any good?
I always thought it looked appealing. Did it even come out in the West?
electroplankton
Banned
Vita has been selling like crap for the last couple months, i doubt that Sony is in the position to rest their success on a single new first Party IP - they need more and they should be able to secure these kind of deals. Just because they couldnt secure Monster Hunter against doesnt mean that they wont keep trying for other franchises.
Could be a PSP/Vita or even a Vita/Ps3 title - though i expect a Vita only title.
don't exaggerate
"An unprecedented hardware boost for Vita!"
Both true, and sounds a *lot* more impressive than it really is.
electroplankton
Banned
It will likely be a PSP/Vita title but Vita exclusivity does not sound the most reasonable move; I mean, God Eater success was really dependent on Monster Hunter fanbase, and I'm not so sure it could succeed in the same way without that (on Vita, I mean). Moreover, on 3DS it will be practically identical than the PSP version, and it could enjoy a larger base. The first God Eater sold slightly worser than how Vita sold so far.
BishopLamont
Banned
PSP/3DS would make most sense, if they don't mind PSP level graphics for this iteration. Otherwise it'd be Vita/3DS exclusive.
Make that six. Triple battles were introduced in BW.
Wouldn't expect it to be exclusive, but either PSP/3DS or Vita/3DS sounds about right. The fact that God Eater had cameos in two Nintendo exclusive titles since God Eater 2 vanished might hint at something like that.
slaughterking
Member
I can see why neither a PSP nor a Vita or 3DS version make a whole lot of sense for God Eater right now. Should be a Mobage or iOS game by now. Maybe GREE.
Exterminieren
Banned
Absolutely nothing, in the history of Pokémon, Sales-age or video games hinted that this would be the case at all.
In comparison to what the likes of Platinum and Emerald have pulled, this is an outstanding result. Second largest opening weekend for the franchise is incredible for sequels.
test_account
XP-39C²
What is this joke based on? I might have missed something, but i havnt seen anyone who claimed such a thing, and Tokyo Jungle already sold great.
Good opening for B/W 2, should be able to reach 4 mil.
It came out in europe at least. It's not a very good game.
It came out in europe at least. It's not a very good game.
KillerTravis
Banned
I think it is based on an old PSP-DS sales spin, were it was said that people went to the stores looking for a DS but because they were sold out they bought a PSP instead.
It was excellent, I preferred it to MH in quite a few ways. Awesome freaking soundtrack too.
It came out in the west as God Eater Burst (the expanded version of the original).
It's a great game and a lot more accessible than MoHun.
So many months of silence could mean a Ys-Celceta-like graphic improvement, so Vita exclusive. Or that they changed things to adapt it to a platform with another screen, so 3DS...not exclusive, PSP at least.
In the end, it could still remain a PSP exclusive despite all this silence for months. :lol
One of them is Project X Zone...but what's the other title with God Eater cameo?
Taiko?
Wouldn't it make sense for them to build a base on a new system? If they go with Vita then if MonHun stays 3DS exclusive they can be the go to MonHun-like experience on the Vita, building their very own base with fans of the genre on the console.
Making it PSP/Vita would be the smarter decision financially I think but I'd rather they gave it a graphical boost and make it Vita exclusive.
Making it PSP/Vita would be the smarter decision financially I think but I'd rather they gave it a graphical boost and make it Vita exclusive.
electroplankton
Banned
I cannot see God Eater being so successful on its own legs. Probably will be, but not at PSP level (it was the most successful new IP on PSP, selling over 600k).
What do you mean by "its own legs"?
And if it was that successful already on PSP I don't see why the series can't continue to do well.
test_account
XP-39C²
That doesnt fit very well with this joke though. It is about that people already bought Toyko Jungle, a game with animals, and because of that then they wont buy Pokemon because this game also have "animals" in it. Neither of the games (nor the hardware, PS3 and 3DS) are supply constrained as far as i know.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Problem with that idea is that there is a very good argument that series like God Eater - or to pick another genre, Tales - tend to do best on platforms where the "genre kings" are established, rather than on platforms where they have free reign.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Vita's still far, far too risky, unless that thing can at least average out 30k a week, only extremely niche developers will look at that, or developers Sony has money hatted in some way.
It really doesn't make sense at this point business wise to bet on it.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Persona 4 Golden doing good.
Bruno MB
Member
That looks like a crazy prediction. (Well, just the top 10 or the top 10 with the figures?)
At least we know 7 games that will make it to that top:
Super Mario 3D Land
Monster Hunter 3G
Mario Kart 7
Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D
New Super Mario Bros. 2
Pokémon Black & White 2
One Piece: Pirate Warriors
Other games will depend on their release date, for example Animal Crossing 3DS.
Yep.
michaelius
Banned
Yes it's freaking awesome. You can buy it for 10 euro on European PSN.
Just make sure you play it on Vita to bind d-pad to second analog.
Same article also states that he is now a professor. So by that logic, wouldn't it be also incorrect to not call him Prof. Dr. Kawashima? If one title is mandatory, why not the other one? Which I think ranks higher than Dr. anyway.
So he has both, Nintendo are free to choose to use either or neither and they maybe wanted to stress the medical angle. Although calling the software 'medical' is a bit of a stretch.