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It's amazing what topics we discuss in this thread.
I love this kind of discussion, if they are respectful, etc. Going off-topic (Japan, not ff-topic at all) is always welcome.
sinobi changed his mind (again) for DQ.
Despite a group of people waiting for Switch version, the excitement of last days could blow away the reservations that didn't grow up as much as he expected.
Neat.
Jarod McChicken
Member
DQXI was originally PS4 exclusive, then they added a 3DS version.
DQXI started out as a PS4 exclusive.
What is the source for this ? In the last interview before the release of the game, Yûji Horii said :
The plan from the beginning was to release Dragon Quest XI on PlayStation 4 and 3DS.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I guess there was some rumor over how it started PS4 dev initially and then SE got cold feet and decided to make a 3DS version as well.What is the source for this ? In the last interview before the release of the game, Yûji Horii said :
What is the source for this ? In the last interview before the release of the game, Yûji Horii said :
In a pamphlet provided to fans at the Dragon Quest XI Countdown Carnival hands-on events, its revealed that the 3DS version was added later on in development.
Originally, development started as only a PlayStation 4 title. 3DS production began later due to its increase in userbase and Square Enix wanting more fans to experience the game.
Dragon Quest creator Yuji Horii had some concerns about 3DS players feeling that they were playing an inferior version. So when an idea was brought up to include both 2D and 3D perspectives, he said: Thats good!.
http://nintendoeverything.com/drago...ally-ps4-only-3ds-version-was-added-later-on/
DarkLordMalik
Member
But Yuji Hori has himself stated the exact opposite. Do we believe a pamphlet or the director?
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
either/or of those statements could be pure PR
either/or of those statements could be pure PR
First statement was from Hori in May and second just before the game's release.
What is the source for this ? In the last interview before the release of the game, Yûji Horii said :
From the same interview even:
Development started on PlayStation 4, but they decided that they could also start making the 3DS version in the middle of production. (Horii)
Read more at http://gematsu.com/2017/07/dragon-q...st-iii-ps4-technical-test#c1rcsG1XZoBCczVu.99
DarkLordMalik
Member
This is not even the same statement. It simply talks about the starting point of development for 3DS. They were new with Unreal Engine hence they had to start early on PS4.From the same interview even:
In the other linked interview, it feels like SE weren't confident with DQXI being simply a PS4 exclusive while with the new one, it reveals that 3DS was always on the cards and they started to work on it at a later date than PS4.
This is not even the same statement. It simply talks about the starting point of development for 3DS. They were new with Unreal Engine hence they had to start early on PS4.
In the other linked interview, it feels like SE weren't confident with DQXI being simply a PS4 exclusive while with the new one, it reveals that 3DS was always on the cards and they started to work on it at a later date than PS4.
Looking at SE's actions at the beginning of the gen, Hori's hints at the game, the timing, and the release now rather than last year during the height of the anniversary festivities, I am inclined to think that this is closest to what happened.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Considering the amount of care and attention that has been given to the 3DS version, I am inclined to believe otherwise.Looking at SE's actions at the beginning of the gen, Hori's hints at the game, the timing, and the release now rather than last year during the height of the anniversary festivities, I am inclined to think that this is closest to what happened.
3DS version doesn't even remotely look like an afterthought.
PREDICTION LEAGUE AUGUST 2017
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 31 to Aug 27):
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age [2nd month] (28 days) - 600000
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age [2nd month] (28 days) - 300000
[PS4] Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy (25 days) - 80000
[3DS] The Snack World: TreJarers (18 days) - 60000
[NSW] Monster Hunter XX: Double Cross Nintendo Switch Ver. (3 days) - 80000
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 31 to Aug 27):
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age [2nd month] (28 days) - 600000
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age [2nd month] (28 days) - 300000
[PS4] Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy (25 days) - 80000
[3DS] The Snack World: TreJarers (18 days) - 60000
[NSW] Monster Hunter XX: Double Cross Nintendo Switch Ver. (3 days) - 80000
I see Asian tourists wearing them in London sometimes, mostly at St Pancras (rail terminal for people arriving from Europe).Well yes, but he did ask nicely and there's no prerequisite before entering this thread no?I wish there was for posting sometimes
Paris (only main town) : 21 067 ppl/km2
Tokyo : 6224ppl/km²
Paris + urban suburbs (similar density to Tokyo) : 3750ppl/km²
(Lots of other similar area in western Europe as illustrated in the pic above)
It's a cultural thing that spreads a few decades ago, density being one of the reason, read about it (amongst many other things) on a few sociological books the past few years but I don't think I want to open a topic like that (said books might not give the full picture also), still for many westerners that's an unknown concept and outside pictures or visiting asian countries you would probably never know about it.
Considering the amount of care and attention that has been given to the 3DS version, I am inclined to believe otherwise.
3DS version doesn't even remotely look like an afterthought.
I don't think that the game was quickly hacked together, rather that in the original planning stage that the PS4 version was the intention, and then later (my guess is April '15) decided to add the 3DS version, and possibly the Switch at that time or a little later.
I see Asian tourists wearing them in London sometimes, mostly at St Pancras (rail terminal for people arriving from Europe).
I would probably wear them in London too, I have heard the air is still kind of bad.
I don't think that the game was quickly hacked together, rather that in the original planning stage that the PS4 version was the intention, and then later (my guess is April '15) decided to add the 3DS version, and possibly the Switch at that time or a little later.
That's the possible scenario and apparently Horii accidently revealed it in May.
Started as PS4, added 3DS, added Switch and maybe they won't stop there if they see there is roon for further sales.
Why some Japanese uses these masks?
The legitimate reason is to protect others from catching your own cold. Of course some might wear them for the opposite effect but given politeness culture in Japan I believe it's mostly an act of consideration for others when you're contagious.
That is the reason why some contagious moms wear those masks to protect their babies in the West too btw.
DarkLordMalik
Member
So PS4 will potentially have two 1 million and above sellers without any re-release.The usual blogger also changed his mind.
He says that the PS4 version will definitely pass 1 million LTD (easy task). And the 3DS has high chances to reach 2 million LTD.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
The usual blogger also changed his mind.
He says that the PS4 version will definitely pass 1 million LTD (easy task). And the 3DS has high chances to reach 2 million LTD.
This is basically the ratio we always assumed between the PS4 and 3DS. Maybe the PS4 didn't really overperform all that much and the 3DS underperform. Then again there's decent chance they're wrong.
The usual blogger also changed his mind.
He says that the PS4 version will definitely pass 1 million LTD (easy task). And the 3DS has high chances to reach 2 million LTD.
3 million LTD for DQXI is still bad. Hopefully PS4 version can make it to 1.5 million and Switch version can clear one million.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
3 million LTD for DQXI is still bad. Hopefully PS4 version can make it to 1.5 million and Switch version can clear one million.
That blogger clearly predicts high chance of the LTD being 3 million+ and no that is nowhere near bad.
DQ8 - 3.55 million
DQ9 - 4.1 million
Add to that overseas sales should be higher this time and the SW version and DQ11 has a good chance in being the best selling DQ of all time.
That blogger clearly predicts high chance of the LTD being 3 million+ and no that is nowhere near bad.
DQ8 - 3.55 million
DQ9 - 4.1 million
Add to that overseas sales should be higher this time and the SW version and DQ11 has a good chance in being the best selling DQ of all time.
Going multiplatform was a smart move and yeah I think the 3DS did kind of limit the westers success. With western sales and a Switch port this will be the best selling DQ for sure.
We'll see.That blogger clearly predicts high chance of the LTD being 3 million+ and no that is nowhere near bad.
DQ8 - 3.55 million
DQ9 - 4.1 million
Add to that overseas sales should be higher this time and the SW version and DQ11 has a good chance in being the best selling DQ of all time.
Doesn't DQXI have the highest production costs of any entry so far tho? We're talking two seperate versions, with one of them being in HD.
Maybe if they make the right move to at least release it on PS4 and Switch at the same time, possibly also 3DS if it isn't too late.
Add to that overseas sales should be higher this time and the SW version and DQ11 has a good chance in being the best selling DQ of all time.
Maybe if they make the right move to at least release it on PS4 and Switch at the same time, possibly also 3DS if it isn't too late.
Probably should add that Dragon Quest IX has 5.3 5.5 million sales.
It could be possible to beat it what with it being multiplatform but the PS4 release of Dragon Quest Heroes bombing hard in the west (30k sales launch month) doesn't give much confidence about the relevance of Dragon Quest in the west.
It could be possible to beat it what with it being multiplatform but the PS4 release of Dragon Quest Heroes bombing hard in the west (30k sales launch month) doesn't give much confidence about the relevance of Dragon Quest in the west.
Probably should add that Dragon Quest IX has 5.3 million sales.
It could be possible to beat it what with it being multiplatform but the PS4 release of Dragon Quest Heroes bombing hard in the west (30k sales launch month) doesn't give much confidence about the relevance of Dragon Quest in the west.
We don't know if the game will be getting a multiplatform release in the west.
The Last One
Member
We don't know if the game will be getting a multiplatform release in the west.
Dragon Quest also bombed on 3DS, so...
Dragon Quest also bombed on 3DS, so...
PS4 is out.
3DS is out.
That means it's Switch exclusive in the west.
lol
DQIX sold 5.50M WWProbably should add that Dragon Quest IX has 5.3 million sales.
It could be possible to beat it what with it being multiplatform but the PS4 release of Dragon Quest Heroes bombing hard in the west (30k sales launch month) doesn't give much confidence about the relevance of Dragon Quest in the west.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Or release it on the PC, too. Can't be too hard of a port.
DQIX sold 5.50M WW
I couldn't find the latest figures.
So wow, even higher.
Or release it on the PC, too. Can't be too hard of a port.
I forgot that Steam is possible since Dragon Quest Heroes released on there too.
I just think the West and DQ don't go together, there are some people who are exceptions, but in general they don't go together. It's almost like some people say they want DQ until they see what DQ is.
We will see if just updating the graphics will be enough, but I think people will demand fancier music, and voice, and new menus, and real time action, a hero who is not 16, etc.
We will see if just updating the graphics will be enough, but I think people will demand fancier music, and voice, and new menus, and real time action, a hero who is not 16, etc.
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201308/22038720.htmlI couldn't find the latest figures.
So wow, even higher.
Dragon Quest VIII (PS2):
As July 2013
WW: 4.90M
JP: 3.80
Abroad: 1.10
as Dec. 2006
WW: 4.67M
JP: 3.68M
Abroad: 0.99M
Dragon Quest IX (DS):
As July 2013
WW: 5.50M
JP: 4.40M
Abroad: 1.10M (should be precisely 1.12M as Dec. 2013 per Nintendo data)
Dragon Quest X (Wii):
As July 2013
JP: 0.70M
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Doesn't DQXI have the highest production costs of any entry so far tho? We're talking two seperate versions, with one of them being in HD.
Maybe if they make the right move to at least release it on PS4 and Switch at the same time, possibly also 3DS if it isn't too late.
There is no need for that.
Probably should add that Dragon Quest IX has5.35.5 million sales.
It could be possible to beat it what with it being multiplatform but the PS4 release of Dragon Quest Heroes bombing hard in the west (30k sales launch month) doesn't give much confidence about the relevance of Dragon Quest in the west.
DQ in general bombs hard in the West reagrdless of platform. The best success had debuts of around 100-130k in NPD, yet have sold 1 million+ in overseas sales.
PS4 is also a far different platform from then. 3 times the userbase now, a lot more JRPGs have released and found success, especially FFXV, they just need to make sure the release date is not in a crowded period. Summer would be ideal.
There is no need for that.
There is no need for what? Release on 3DS, PS4, or Switch?
There is no need for what? Release on 3DS, PS4, or Switch?
Nothing matters apart ps4
Didn't you get the note?
He means to say "I don't want that to happen".There is no need for what? Release on 3DS, PS4, or Switch?
Nothing matters apart ps4
Didn't you get the note?
He means to say "I don't want that to happen".
I was wondering if he had some legit reasons to think that since I assume he means PS4 exclusive in the west. We're talking about a game that over two platforms will sell less than old entries in Japan, and only being on PS4 will somehow make it a success in the west? It feels weird to think a release on 3DS and/or Switch wouldn't help when the big work is the already done localisation.
I was wondering if he had some legit reasons to think that since I assume he means PS4 exclusive in the west. We're talking about a game that over two platforms will sell less than old entries in Japan, and only being on PS4 will somehow make it a success in the west? It feels weird to think a release on 3DS and/or Switch wouldn't help when the big work is the already done localisation.
That's just it, he does not care about these games, all he cares about is adding another game to the PS4 exclusive list.
PdotMichael
Banned
If the Switch version isn't ready there is no reason to delay the PS4 version for a simultaneous release in the west.
DQXI in the West? PS4 version is certain, Switch version is likely, 3DS could go either way. Also in a world where Nier, Persona 5 ship over 1 million on PS4 WW I don't see why DQXI couldn't do it especially if it will be multiplatform.
500k of Nier's sales are from Steam.
DQXI in the West? PS4 version is certain, Switch version is likely, 3DS could go either way. Also in a world where Nier, Persona 5 ship over 1 million on PS4 WW I don't see why DQXI couldn't do it especially if it will be multiplatform.
Modern action rpg and modern anime style jrpg compared to classic turn based jrpg with old anime style. I wouldn't be surprised if DQ XI didn't outsell either in the west.
Don't think it was posted earlier and it's just for one store but Famitsu's report from Bic Ikebukuro main store says that the DQXI sales ratio at that store this morning was roughly 40% PS4, 60% 3DS.
500k of Nier's sales are from Steam.
Well last time we head that it shipped over 1.5 million so if Steam is 500k it should be 1 million on PS4.
500k of Nier's sales are from Steam.
And the game has sold over 1.5 million. So it's >1million on PS4 alone.